LEGO Icons 11380 Road Bike revealed!

It looks amazing! Would never get it though.

Very creative! I just started biking to work to save on gas so this is pleasantly timed for me!

As an avid cyclist, I think it looks great for once. I could never believe recreating a bicycle in Lego could be so successful. Also it seems to have tons of new molds like the wheels/ tyres. Weird choice for such an obscure set, while we have been begging for new tyre moulds at every F1 car set. Price is ridiculous as always, so I may consider it at a deep discount on Amazon or get it used.

@Denmark_Dragon said:
"I bet the cyclist is a GWP.."

Tadej Pogacar?

Is that also a new 3x3 wheel part below the water bottle cap?

owkay....

@brimbolet said:
"Looks good but I'm waiting for a Lego garden gnome"

Don't feed them Ideas! That's what IDEAS s for!

Definitely a nice addition to the Icons theme
Price at 12ct per piece seems reasonable nowadays
And some very special parts, which I think can be hardly used for anything else than...building a bike

@cutlero: Lol, I guess you won't fit on this one

Looks nice tho' tyres are too fat for a road bike.

Wonder if there's any chance of a 'bent for those of us that prefer to cycle in comfort?

@ResIpsaLoquitur said:
"That is, in fact, a bike.

I would highly recommend a noseless seat for increased comfort."

And procreation.

@_roy_ said:
"Sorry, one of the most boring sets I've seen in a while.

But maybe others are interested. "

@meccanotwitch said:"Looks great, a day 1 purchase for me "

I love it when the first two comments do things like that.

@Faryn said:"There's no front light?
A helmet would be a nice GWP"

Duplicate the one from 10298.

Reminds me of Botanicals. Looks great but not really Lego.

No bell, no buy.,

Now this is cute.

I must admit, for an 'Icons' set, I would have been a lot more excited by a Raleigh Chopper!

Strange they just didn't use the wheels from 42130 and make a fat bike?

Excellent !

Something for my dad

Wow!! What a useless and boring lego!!

Seems like 1:6 scale? Needs a Pee Wee Herman doll for scale.

Those must be, by far, the largest (diameter) tires Lego has ever produced? What crazy stuff will people make out of them, I wonder...

I’m so totally turning this into a mountain bike!

I'm not sure of the spoke design: I think that when rotating the hub, the spokes will form a slightly spiral shape in the centre, rather than drive the wheel directly. Unless the spokes are very high strung indeed. Perhaps this is not a problem.

Being a huge fan of bicycling, although not road bikes, I like this set.

I think the fork/steering bracket/stem connection seems wrong. Actual bikes don't have a fork hinged like this. On the other hand, perhaps there are some high end bikes which are designed like this.

The front cog/gear has 64 teeth, I think, which is a bit high for this bike. Around 50 would be realistic for a road bike.

The tyres probably mount to the wheels in much the same way as a real bike, which is nice.

Missing hoses for the brakes and derailleurs. But then again, high end bikes probably have them integrated into the frame.

If it had working gears like a technic set this would be great… in fact a bike gear set would be quite a fun thing to try and convince the next generation that there is a reason for having all those cogs on their bike!

But a fixie with a gear selector seems an odd compromise after all the effort to get 99% of the way there, I feel I’d like it more without the derailleur as it is

Beautiful design, but it is huge. I can't imagine many people would have the display space for that.

@fredrigl said:
"I'm not sure of the spoke design: I think that when rotating the hub, the spokes will form a slightly spiral shape in the centre, rather than drive the wheel directly. Unless the spokes are very high strung indeed. Perhaps this is not a problem."

That’s not how spokes work. On a solid rim like a car, the weight rests on the lower portion of the rim. On tensioned spokes, it hangs suspended from the upper part of the rim. Every spike has to be properly tensioned, or the rim will go out of true, and your ride will be…unpleasant. Spokes have to be arranged in matched pairs angled clockwise and counter-clockwise, or the rim will be able to shift in relation to the axle, and your ride will be…unpleasant.

Another thing I don't see a need for in LEGO form but apparently some people might be interested.
Don't mind that it exists, just don't understand the reasoning behind it.

This looks like an outstanding set. Don’t mind building this one day

This looks amazing, although it's not for me. Might have to get one of those big gears regardless, I'm sure I can think of uses for it! I'd be tempted to buy it if it had functioning derailleurs, but having them on a single-speed does seem a little odd!

Close enough to mod it into my current BMC :-)

Is this the first time that you can get the real thing cheaper than the LEGO?
Pace the comments above- you can get a ridable lightweight road bike for a hundred quid. Look on ebay.
I mean, that is if you want something to ride, not something to show off with.

@PurpleDave said:
" @fredrigl said:
"I'm not sure of the spoke design: I think that when rotating the hub, the spokes will form a slightly spiral shape in the centre, rather than drive the wheel directly. Unless the spokes are very high strung indeed. Perhaps this is not a problem."

That’s not how spokes work. On a solid rim like a car, the weight rests on the lower portion of the rim. On tensioned spokes, it hangs suspended from the upper part of the rim. Every spike has to be properly tensioned, or the rim will go out of true, and your ride will be…unpleasant. Spokes have to be arranged in matched pairs angled clockwise and counter-clockwise, or the rim will be able to shift in relation to the axle, and your ride will be…unpleasant."

Ummm...
Sit on a bike and ping the lower spokes- they'll still be in tension.
The hubs (and the bike, and you) are, in effect, suspended from the rims by all of the spokes.

@Rimefang said:
"Seems like 1:6 scale? Needs a Pee Wee Herman doll for scale."

More like 1:3.

Ironic cause my mom keeps seeing fake lego bike sets on Insta and shes obsessed with biking so this is perfect!

@Pongo said:
"Is this the first time that you can get the real thing cheaper than the LEGO?
Pace the comments above- you can get a ridable lightweight road bike for a hundred quid. Look on ebay.
I mean, that is if you want something to ride, not something to show off with."

Buying bikes from street vendors (junks, thieves, lowlifes) don’t count.

@Pongo said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @fredrigl said:
"I'm not sure of the spoke design: I think that when rotating the hub, the spokes will form a slightly spiral shape in the centre, rather than drive the wheel directly. Unless the spokes are very high strung indeed. Perhaps this is not a problem."

That’s not how spokes work. On a solid rim like a car, the weight rests on the lower portion of the rim. On tensioned spokes, it hangs suspended from the upper part of the rim. Every spike has to be properly tensioned, or the rim will go out of true, and your ride will be…unpleasant. Spokes have to be arranged in matched pairs angled clockwise and counter-clockwise, or the rim will be able to shift in relation to the axle, and your ride will be…unpleasant."

Ummm...
Sit on a bike and ping the lower spokes- they'll still be in tension.
The hubs (and the bike, and you) are, in effect, suspended from the rims by all of the spokes."

Exactly. They’re under _tension_. They’re pulling outward in all directions, but gravity only pulls the weight of the frame and rider down. A spoke that is pulling down can’t also push up. So the weight hangs suspended from the upper spokes. As the wheel turns, the weight transfers from the spokes rotating down in front to the spokes rotating up in back.

We should thank the Maker that at least it's not another identical car.

Great build. But why?

I don't know......it does look kinda cool. But a derailleurs yet no gears to shift? Rear light but no front light? Just a reflector at the back would make more sense then. But also, that red-black-red layered frame looks weird. And once again the grey Mixel ball joints look out of place...

The freewheeling mechanism as mentioned does sound interesting though.....curious if they have a new piece for that or some smart trick?

But all in all, while this isn't even all that crazy expensive, I can't help but feel they instead had better made like a €40-50 Creator set or so. As a proper Icons set it has a few too many compromises, even despite the new and highly specialized pieces.

I mean, it’s clever, but… why? Sometimes just because you can, doesn’t always mean you should…
Add to that, it’s massive!! Not everyone has that kind of space for a Lego set, and if they did, would they choose a bike?

I honestly didn't even think it was made of Lego when I first looked at the picture.

@lORDoFtHEbOARD said:
" @_roy_ said:
"Sorry, one of the most boring sets I've seen in a while.

But maybe others are interested. "

This is a road bike! You sure you are Dutch?"

Where he goes they don't need roads...

@Vindic8ed said:
"I was countering what GrizBe said, but the quote "feature" wasn't working, so I just did the "@", in case you didn't see the reason I said what I did."

I know. I almost replied directly myself, but then decided to play off your comment for the “Why buy this when you can get a real X for less money” moment (seriously, $10k?).

"I doubt Barbie fans are whining to Mattel about new Hot Wheels that are coming out because it's something they don't like. Seeing AFOLs complaining all the time because something doesn't appeal to them is laughable."

I literally just saw a Barbie Dream Camper Hot Wheels toy in a store. Although, if I must be honest, I thought it said “Barbie Death Camper” for a second…

I also did buy a pink Barbie Corvette Hot Wheels, and when the mood suits me, I’ll plop the top half of Gizmo in it and throw it on our layouts. I do have a brickbuilt version, but red’s the closest I could get given neither of the fenders in 71256 came in any shade of pink.

"I bet there's some irony that goes along with their criticism too…"

Oh, you must be new here.

@kkoster79 said:
"...but if you are a cyclist fan..."

I'm not. Cyclists are the worst.

@MusiMus said:
"Something for my dad"

You mean like https://brickset.com/article/71355/42139-atv-what-could-have-been?

@Rare_White_Ape said:"Just look at what Lego is pedalling these days"

You're wheely pushing it with that.

@Pongo said:"Is this the first time that you can get the real thing cheaper than the LEGO? "

As others have pointed out, a high-end bike costs a lot more than this thing.

For an Icons set, I'm surprised they didn't go with a licensed model. There must be some cycle brand with enough cachet to put their name on a set.

Why?

Esto NO ES LEGO

takes up way too much space. Its cool but would be better half size.

@lordofdragonss said:
"Great build. But why?"
You are asking this about the first bike model. Did you have the same question about the bikes with engines (ex: Harley), all the ones with 4 wheels? About the dozens of versions of fire trucks?
Every year when I see the new modular building I have the same question. Why? And same question for every Brickheadz, CMF, flowers, frames, and Ninjago sets. I fact I no longer know why Lego should exist.

Edit: this set and the spaceman gigafig will probably be easily in my ‘top 5 sets of the year’.

@ra226 said:
"This design is incredible--I'm not sure how well it will actually sell, but this was one of those rare "can't even tell it's Lego" designs at first glance."

Probably because they used many new parts specifically designed for this model.

I'm a road and mtb guy, so squarely in the target demographic.
Idk I kinda like it, shaping is pretty good. Hits the aero bike aesthetic pretty well. But also it's way to expensive. I'll only maybe get it, if it's discounted heavily. If it's an exclusive, I'm out.
It looks like the rim profile is deep enough for technic pins so it's kinda built like pinned alu rims on real bikes (yes I'm aware that most deep rims are carbon).
I'm looking forward to all the NPU in MOCs with those rim sections. I see a ton of possibilities in sci-fi MOCs!

I'm also curious if they will do an MTB. I'd like to be able to change linkage designs or at least have an "X in 1" set, where you can build up different linkages and see the different kinematics in each of them.

@AustinPowers said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Vindic8ed said:
"I was countering what GrizBe said, but the quote "feature" wasn't working, so I just did the "@", in case you didn't see the reason I said what I did."

I know. I almost replied directly myself, but then decided to play off your comment for the “Why buy this when you can get a real X for less money” moment (seriously, $10k?)."
Seriously. A cycling enthusiast friend of mine from England spent over 10K British Pounds on EACH of his several bikes. And that's far more than 10K USD.
You can easily spend even 20K or more on a racing bike with all the desirable features.

The funny thing about this set is, when I saw the first images I thought it had to be an April's fool joke, because it looked so little like it was made out of actual LEGO pieces.
Now that we have zoomable pics and you can see the actual pieces it's quite fascinating how they did it. Even though I am not interested in the set per se I can appreciate the engineering and design behind it. "

I'm kinda this person tho I'm hovering more at 5 - 6k per bike (if you build up framesets yourself you can save quite a bit of money)
Bike components can get seriously expensive! Especially if you care about weight or in case of MTB,suspension performance.

@xprojected said:
"For an Icons set, I'm surprised they didn't go with a licensed model. There must be some cycle brand with enough cachet to put their name on a set."

Oh there definitely is. Hell, I'd imagine Factor bikes would even be down for a cross collaboration with a special edition Factor x Lego bike.
They already have so many special editions including a Factor x Hatsune Miku bike.

I'm honestly very glad it's not licensed tho!

@Crux said:
"Cyclists are the worst."
You're wrong, but please explain?

@WizardOfOss Skik!

Glad to see the rims and spokes are actual smaller pieces put together and not one giant ready-made piece like it could've been.

Not my cup of tea, but a great-looking model and nice to see something other than cars and motorbikes as far as transportation on wheels go.

@Duq said:
" @Crux said:
"Cyclists are the worst."
You're wrong, but please explain?

@WizardOfOss Skik!"

I owe you nothing, and will give you even less.

@Crux said:
" @Duq said:
" @Crux said:
"Cyclists are the worst."
You're wrong, but please explain?

@WizardOfOss Skik!"

I owe you nothing, and will give you even less."

Every motorist: "Cyclists are the worst!"
Every cyclist: "Motorists are the worst!"
Every truck driver: "You are both totally right!"

But luckily then we have fatbikes, we can all agree on are the absolute worst of the worst ;-)

@WizardOfOss said:
" @Murdoch17 said:
" @TuxDoesLegoStuff said:
" @EtudeTheBadger said:
"Think bike.

Also, cue Queen."

BICYCLE, BICYCLE, BICYCLE"

I want to ride my bicycle, bicycle, bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my bike
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride it where I like"

Wie döt mij wat, wie döt mij wat
Wie döt mij wat vandage
’k Heb de banden vol met wind
Nee ik heb ja niks te klagen
Wie döt mij wat, wie döt mij wat
Wie döt mij wat vandage
’k Zol haost zeggen, jao het mag wel zo"

"De ochtenden zijn wit en koud
En hoe je ook je stuur vasthoudt
De wind komt door je handschoenen heen
Je vingers zijn versteend"

and

"Spring maar achterop bij mij, achter op m'n fiets"

Oh, wait...

Does it work with zwift??

@xprojected said:
"For an Icons set, I'm surprised they didn't go with a licensed model. There must be some cycle brand with enough cachet to put their name on a set."

For that price, you would've expected it to be licensed in some way!

@smurfybloke said:
"Looks wonderful. So many pleasing details. Front and rear derailleurs on a single speed (and radial spokes) cause a (warm) smile/chuckle :-)

Freewheel is a nice touch, looking forward to reading about that in the review.

I feared it looked large… but not 600mm long large! :-o I fear the size is the only thing stopping me wanting to buy it."

The freewheel looks like a special new gear in the rear axle. If it is roughly 16 tooth with some sort of clever dog clutch or something better then slopes and a spring I will be hunting them on pick a brick. So many uses for push along town vehicles.

LEGO has lately been taking the Funko approach of get license after license and see what sticks; and some themes like Technic now have a massive proportion of the line being licensed.

Yet, for a set like this, honestly, it probably would've helped. But, color me both intrigued and impressed by the mechanisms.

I'm looking forward to the LEGO cutlery collection, personally.

@yellowcastle said:
"I’m getting tired of this LEGO shrinkflation. Now LEGO cars only include 2 tires?!"

Yeah, they couldn't have given us a Reliant Robin?

@Crux said:
" @Duq said:
" @Crux said:
"Cyclists are the worst."
You're wrong, but please explain?"

I owe you nothing, and will give you even less."

Charmer...

So derailers, freewheel spinning, silver chain, some sort of ratchet system... wow almost seems technic?? but it's not , because it's not another car with steering and opening doors.

@lORDoFtHEbOARD said:
" @_roy_ said:
"Sorry, one of the most boring sets I've seen in a while.

But maybe others are interested. "

This is a road bike! You sure you are Dutch?"

Whahaha! Yes, i am. In Holland we ride on a 'oma fiets'

@WizardOfOss said:
" @Crux said:
" @Duq said:
" @Crux said:
"Cyclists are the worst."
You're wrong, but please explain?

@WizardOfOss Skik!"

I owe you nothing, and will give you even less."

Every motorist: "Cyclists are the worst!"
Every cyclist: "Motorists are the worst!"
Every truck driver: "You are both totally right!""

When I was a teenager, I was biking down a hill and someone turned into a parking lot right in front of me. I had just enough time to turn broadside and hopefully leave a dent or scratch or something in their passenger side door.

And just yesterday, I saw a front page article on a newspaper that said Detroit is going to start issuing tickets to reckless cyclists.

"But luckily then we have fatbikes, we can all agree on are the absolute worst of the worst ;-)"

Having ridden a racing-style bike on a beachfront sidewalk, I actually see the appeal in those. Skinny tires and sand are not a good combination.

@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"But luckily then we have fatbikes, we can all agree on are the absolute worst of the worst ;-)"

Having ridden a racing-style bike on a beachfront sidewalk, I actually see the appeal in those. Skinny tires and sand are not a good combination."

We might not be talking about the same kind of bikes here......fatbikes as in kinda a mountain bike but with much fatter tires.....silly but not neccessarily terrible.

But we also use the term for a specific kind of ebike with small, thick tires, that actually ride more like an electrical moped but somehow slip trough all laws an regulations. So no need for a license, insurance, helmet, yet you can easily go like 40-50 with no or minimal pedaling. Very popular among kids who seem to prefer riding them with 2 or 3 persons on one bike (makes you wonder how much parents must hate their kids to give them one in the first place...), and among the kind of people people that would probably prefer to drive an Audi but can't afford one.

A few weeks ago I saw two of them crash into each other at a pretty high speed in the middle of a pedestrian zone. It was glorious. I can only hope they still feel it.

@WizardOfOss said:
"We might not be talking about the same kind of bikes here......fatbikes as in kinda a mountain bike but with much fatter tires.....silly but not neccessarily terrible."

That is what I thought we were talking about, yes.

"But we also use the term for a specific kind of ebike with small, thick tires, that actually ride more like an electrical moped but somehow slip trough all laws a regulations. So no need for a license, insurance, helmet, yet you can easily go like 40-50 with no or minimal pedaling. Very popular among kids who seem to prefer riding them with 2 or 3 persons on one bike (makes you wonder how much parents must hate their kids to give them one in the first place...), and among the kind of people people that would probably prefer to drive an Audi but can't afford one."

I just saw my first Lime bike in person today (read up on their invasion of Los Angeles). E-scooters have been in the area for a few years. I’ve seen at least one instance of riding tandem on an electric skateboard with a stick mounted on the nose. Michigan repealed the motorcycle helmet law, so you can legally ride a Ducati on the freeway with a bare head (and I’ve had lane-splitting motorcycles blow past me fast enough to make my car rock from their wake).

I also periodically see kids riding minibikes, which are just tiny motorcycles with wimpy motors. They’re not street legal at all, nor can they be ridden on sidewalks, so I have no idea what people in an urban sprawl are buying them for, or why nobody has cracked down on them. A few years ago, I turned onto a side street and someone was riding one straight towards me in the same lane. Bobbled a bit to make it look like he was losing control, and then veered off and left the area.

"A few weeks ago I saw two of them crash into each other at a pretty high speed in the middle of a pedestrian zone. It was glorious. I can only hope they still feel it."

One can only hope certain people have pristine, up-to-date organ donor cards.

@PurpleDave said:
"I just saw my first Lime bike in person today (read up on their invasion of Los Angeles). E-scooters have been in the area for a few years. I’ve seen at least one instance of riding tandem on an electric skateboard with a stick mounted on the nose. Michigan repealed the motorcycle helmet law, so you can legally ride a Ducati on the freeway with a bare head (and I’ve had lane-splitting motorcycles blow past me fast enough to make my car rock from their wake).

I also periodically see kids riding minibikes, which are just tiny motorcycles with wimpy motors. They’re not street legal at all, nor can they be ridden on sidewalks, so I have no idea what people in an urban sprawl are buying them for, or why nobody has cracked down on them. A few years ago, I turned onto a side street and someone was riding one straight towards me in the same lane. Bobbled a bit to make it look like he was losing control, and then veered off and left the area."
The weird thing is we do have quite effetive laws against most of that stuff, which are actually enforced. E-scooters are mostly banned, bar a few. And those are considered mopeds, so you need to be 16, have a license and insurance, and wear a helmet. And same for any regular ebike that can go faster than 25 or without pedaling. And that apparently is the problem with those fatbikes: Officially they can't go faster and do require pedaling.....but that is o so easily tweaked. And 99% are.

The most bizarre thing is some cities have come up with local laws against fatbikes. But somehow the best they can do is look at the tire size. So now instead we get "skinny bikes: The exact same thing just with "slightly thinner tires that are just within those rules. Nobody could have seen that coming, right?

"One can only hope certain people have pristine, up-to-date organ donor cards."
At least we have solved that: No longer a flimsy piece of paper, but instead a digital register. And since a few years, you'll now have to actively opt-out.

And maybe that explains why no one is really doing anything against those fatbikes: Don't want to stop the steady stream of donor organs....

@WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
"I just saw my first Lime bike in person today (read up on their invasion of Los Angeles). E-scooters have been in the area for a few years. I’ve seen at least one instance of riding tandem on an electric skateboard with a stick mounted on the nose. Michigan repealed the motorcycle helmet law, so you can legally ride a Ducati on the freeway with a bare head (and I’ve had lane-splitting motorcycles blow past me fast enough to make my car rock from their wake).

I also periodically see kids riding minibikes, which are just tiny motorcycles with wimpy motors. They’re not street legal at all, nor can they be ridden on sidewalks, so I have no idea what people in an urban sprawl are buying them for, or why nobody has cracked down on them. A few years ago, I turned onto a side street and someone was riding one straight towards me in the same lane. Bobbled a bit to make it look like he was losing control, and then veered off and left the area."
The weird thing is we do have quite effetive laws against most of that stuff, which are actually enforced. E-scooters are mostly banned, bar a few. And those are considered mopeds, so you need to be 16, have a license and insurance, and wear a helmet. And same for any regular ebike that can go faster than 25 or without pedaling. And that apparently is the problem with those fatbikes: Officially they can't go faster and do require pedaling.....but that is o so easily tweaked. And 99% are.

The most bizarre thing is some cities have come up with local laws against fatbikes. But somehow the best they can do is look at the tire size. So now instead we get "skinny bikes: The exact same thing just with "slightly thinner tires that are just within those rules. Nobody could have seen that coming, right?

"One can only hope certain people have pristine, up-to-date organ donor cards."
At least we have solved that: No longer a flimsy piece of paper, but instead a digital register. And since a few years, you'll now have to actively opt-out.

And maybe that explains why no one is really doing anything against those fatbikes: Don't want to stop the steady stream of donor organs...."

Man has a point.

"Fatbikes" aren't just considered a specialised type of bike - in a vacuum, they would honestly be kind of a cool mode of transportation. However, they are very much considered emblematic of a very problematic subset of cyclists (who are still, in and of themselves, objectively -the worst-). Fatbikes are considered the de facto Dutch "Chav"-mobile, with all that entails. UK-residents will get that, I think. Dutch Bricksetters of a certain vintage might appreciate the "Tokkie"-equivalent. For US-residents, well - I think the closest equivalent would be "trailer trash", I guess?

This is more of an explanation than I rightfully owe anyone - but maybe Oss' words just bring some truth to light. Don't let it get to your head.

@AlfredHitchcock said:
"
That could just as well be said about EVERY LEGO SET ever produced. There is no less justification for the existence of this than for anything else. "

That's far from true. LEGO means "play well." Historically, they were known for making toys meant to be played with.

This is just an awkward display piece made of plastic.

@PurpleDave said:"Michigan repealed the motorcycle helmet law..."

Helmet laws exist to protect heads that aren't smart enough to wear a helmet in the first place.

@Crux, regarding the word "chav:" I may be an American, but I'm also a huge Anglophile, so yeah, I know (at least roughly) what it means. I don't think "trailer trash" is exactly the right term if you're looking for a synonym, but nothing better's coming to mind. For one thing, someone who's "trailer trash" is poor, but I don't believe "chav" has that connotation.

@Vesperas said:
" @AlfredHitchcock said:
"
That could just as well be said about EVERY LEGO SET ever produced. There is no less justification for the existence of this than for anything else. "

That's far from true. LEGO means "play well." Historically, they were known for making toys meant to be played with.

This is just an awkward display piece made of plastic."

It depends on how you look at things. A thousand years from now when the human race is extinct (according to Hawking's prediction), Lego--and every other man-made thing--will have zero value added.

Now this is a set worth mentioning! well done lego!

@WizardOfOss said:
"But we also use the term for a specific kind of ebike with small, thick tires, that actually ride more like an electrical moped but somehow slip trough all laws an regulations. So no need for a license, insurance, helmet, yet you can easily go like 40-50 with no or minimal pedaling. Very popular among kids who seem to prefer riding them with 2 or 3 persons on one bike (makes you wonder how much parents must hate their kids to give them one in the first place...), and among the kind of people people that would probably prefer to drive an Audi but can't afford one."

California just jailed a woman for buying and allowing her teenage son to ride an e-bike and kill someone.

@TheOtherMike said:
" @Crux, regarding the word "chav:" I may be an American, but I'm also a huge Anglophile, so yeah, I know (at least roughly) what it means. I don't think "trailer trash" is exactly the right term if you're looking for a synonym, but nothing better's coming to mind. For one thing, someone who's "trailer trash" is poor, but I don't believe "chav" has that connotation."

From what I understand "chav" originally applied to guys from council estates (housing projects in the U.S.). It implies poverty and thuggish behavior.

I really like this! I just think it’s so clever and impressive