Review: 21314 TRON: Legacy

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A number of famous vehicles from films have appeared in the LEGO Ideas range, the latest of which is the TRON: Legacy Light Cycle. 21314 TRON: Legacy includes two such vehicles along with a display stand and three characters from the 2010 movie.

This represents a departure from the original project submitted by BrickBros UK which featured a single Light Cycle, although including two seems like a wise decision as the set offers much greater play and display value in this form. The Light Cycles look fantastic in the movie so hopefully the LEGO models will be similarly impressive, maintaining the consistently high standard of recent Ideas sets!

Box and Contents

The box includes a flap and is made from a thick cardboard stock, as usual for LEGO Ideas sets. I like the muted dark blue background of the Game Arena in contrast with the vivid colours of the two Light Cycles and the reflective floor surface looks great. An image on the back of the box shows how the vehicles can be removed from the base and provides a closer look at the minifigures.

Opening the box reveals a 68-page instruction manual and two numbered bags. The manual features some information about TRON: Legacy and its characters as well as short interviews with both the fan designers and the LEGO designers who turned the project into an official set. It was interesting to read about their focus upon playability as the set was updated with rolling wheels which were absent from the original design.

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Minifigures

Three minifigures are included, the first of whom is Sam Flynn. His double-sided head is new, featuring a smile on one side and a determined expression on the other. This is perhaps surprising as there are a number of similar designs available in LEGO's existing inventory, although the new element looks good in relation to the source material and the medium nougat hair piece is similarly accurate. He can also wear a helmet with a trans-light blue visor.

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Sam's light suit is decorated with some pale blue illuminated bands that run across both sides of the torso as well as the arms and legs. Not all of these designs line up perfectly on my minifigure which is unfortunate, although I expect this is an isolated issue. Quorra wears a similar suit which is incredibly faithful to the film and exposed shoulders are printed on the arms, demonstrating brilliant attention to even subtle details! Like Sam, Quorra includes a new head with smiling and angry expressions.

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Both minifigures are equipped with an identity disc which can be attached to their back using a trans-clear neck bracket. Each one is represented by a printed 2x2 round tile with a hole through the centre so you can fit them into their hands for a Disc Wars battle. The design looks fantastic when compared with the film and I love how intricate white and blue printing has been used to recreate the disc's pale blue glow.

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Rinzler is equipped with two orange identity discs, both of which fit onto a different kind of neck bracket with a Technic pin. The torso and legs are intricately printed with dark bluish grey streaks to define the armoured suit along with some orange highlights. Each of these lights includes a tiny white dot at its centre which brightens the shade of orange, ensuring even greater accuracy to TRON: Legacy.

21314 TRON: Legacy Light Cycle

However, my favourite aspect of this figure is definitely the helmet. This piece was created for Invincible Iron Man in 76077 Iron Man: Detroit Steel Strikes but its shape is similar to that of Rinzler's helmet and some clever printing accentuates certain curves to match the character in the movie even more closely. The face underneath is fairly common but I think it works well in this instance.

21314 TRON: Legacy Light Cycle

The Completed Model

The two motorcycles can be displayed on a simple base with a black and trans-light blue pattern which resembles that of the Light Cycle Grid in the movie. The combination of trans-light blue tiles with bright light blue plates underneath glows very nicely under certain light conditions and I appreciate the option to reconfigure the base for displaying minifigures during hand-to-hand combat, as shown here.

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Jumper plates allow you to fit the Light Cycles side by side on the base, as though they are racing. The clashing colours look magnificent together and I like the offset arrangement too. Unfortunately, I have found that the models do not sit properly on the base as the wheels protrude very slightly below the frame of each motorcycle. It seems odd that this issue was not rectified during the design phase, although the studs are not actually required to hold the bikes in place on display.

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The two Light Cycles are certainly a little larger than true minifigure scale but do not feel dramatically oversized and I think BrickBros UK found a good balance between the size of the vehicle and its level of detail when creating their original project. Each Light Cycle measures 17cm in length with the light ribbon attached or just over 11cm without the ribbon.

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Sam Flynn's vehicle is distinguished by some scattered bright light blue and trans-light blue accents. I was sceptical about combining opaque and translucent colours in this way but the results look superb. The curvature of the Light Cycle's bodywork is also very impressive and the rolling wheels are vital for play, although it is a shame that they have come at the cost of the hollow shape which is an iconic feature of the fifth-generation cycle.

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However, I think this is a worthy compromise. The printed 4x4 dishes give the illusion of a hollow centre while also ensuring absolute structural integrity. There is very little clearance between the underside of the motorcycle's frame and the surface beneath but you can roll the vehicle back and forth quite easily or angle it from side to side during tight turns.

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The hand grips for the rider are incorrectly positioned when compared with the source material but this can be attributed to the limited articulation of a minifigure so is not a significant issue in my opinion. In fact, I think the light bluish grey handlebars look great and there is room to place a minifigure at the controls, as demonstrated in the image below. Sam must reach forward to grip the handlebars so appears reasonably streamlined, just as in the film.

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A trans-light blue banner projects from the rear of the model, representing the light ribbon intended for cutting off and derezzing other drivers during combat on the Light Cycle Grid. The ribbon is fitted to a clip so can be angled or removed entirely, providing even more options for display. I think the vehicle looks equally impressive in either configuration, although taking off the ribbon does leave behind an exposed clip.

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Rinzler's motorcycle is identically constructed but features orange, trans-orange and trans-neon orange accents. This colour scheme is a little more striking than that of Sam's bike as the orange really stands out in contrast with the black frame and the display base. Once again, the general shape of the Light Cycle looks pretty good on the whole, due in part to the generous use of curved slopes and tiles which form an aerodynamic profile.

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The shaping towards the front of the vehicle is particularly pleasing as the 4x4 round plates which form the wheels line up almost perfectly with the 1x3 bow at the centre. Moreover, I like how the motorcycle bodywork narrows between the front and rear wheels, although not in every dimension as the ground clearance remains consistent for the entire length of the model.

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Many of the smallest details are focused upon this area of the vehicle. Pedals for the rider are situated just between a pair of trans-neon orange energy cells and the rear wheel. These are not suitable for a minifigure but they look perfect in relation to the film and I am glad that the designers hav taken such details have been taken into consideration, even when they only serve a visual purpose rather than a practical one.

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Overall

Motorcycles are notoriously difficult to design based upon the unusual proportions of a minifigure and their restricted articulation. In addition, the Light Cycles from TRON: Legacy are dominated by flowing curves which seem ill-suited to LEGO. Nevertheless, I am very satisfied with 21314 TRON: Legacy. The designers have definitely captured the essence of TRON and the Light Cycles are instantly recognisable, despite not replicating the design of these vehicles from the movie exactly.

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In addition, the minifigures are absolutely superb, featuring extensive printed detail and making clever use of existing parts where necessary. The price of £29.99 or $34.99 does not feel entirely unreasonable to me, although £24.99 or $29.99 would be more appropriate for a set containing 230 pieces, particularly since many of those pieces are quite small. Even so, I would recommend this set to TRON fans as it is an excellent display item and the quality of the minifigures is almost unparalleled!

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This set was provided for review by The LEGO Group but the review is an expression of my own opinions.

 

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72 comments on this article

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By in Italy,

Probably i'd buy this set more for the minifigures than the bikes .

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By in Australia,

Looks amazing! Although it’s still a little too pricey.

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By in United Kingdom,

Too much money

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By in Australia,

In Australia going for $50 (includes tax), unlike say the Star Wars sets the pricing isn’t ridiculous compared to USD and GBP equivalent. However it still feels 10-20% too much and for those who can wait this will certainly be a sale item in the future.

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By in Australia,

I feel like paying so much is just giving Lego the wrong message, but I loved "Tron Legacy" and I think the set looks really amazing, so honestly, I'll still gonna be first in line to buy a copy. They did a really good job staying faithful to the movie (particular the minifig outfits), and I think the colours are great.

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By in Switzerland,

I can't endorse such ludicrous pricing so will just bricklink minifigures or buy it secondhand.

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By in Canada,

Cool set but the price is ridiculous. Will wait for 30%+ sale.

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By in United Kingdom,

When looking at the price I think people need to remember that the set comes with a lot of printing especially the minifigures, front, back, legs, and arms or helmet. So don't think you can compare the set to a £20 set with more parts and 3 minifigures because the minifigures will have less printing and will also appear in other sets spreading the cost more.

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By in United Kingdom,

LEGO continue to bring out appealing sets and I can see why kids or adults will buy the products, but this comment is more towards adults than kids. I understand that LEGO is a hobby, it's fun, creative and can bring out your imagination and for that I understand why people love it.
The one thing I don't understand is when people will ever learn that the more you buy these products at the ridiculous prices that they set, which seem to increase every time a product is released, and become more expensive every year, LEGO will continue to do this, and eventually a set of this size will cost £44.99.
The only way to stop this happening, is to take a stand and not buy the product at FULL retail price, get it on sale and eventually they'll have to put the prices at a reasonable stand point for all customers.

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By in United Kingdom,

Will wait for a price reduction which usually comes before it's retired...

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By in Greece,

'Beestingvision" The best comment in brickset in recent months,thank you

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By in United Kingdom,

It looks far more like a £20 set to me, and honestly, I'm not impressed with the designs either. Without the hollow wheels it looks nothing like the modern Tron bike, and the curves are wrong for the design too. I know they've had to compromise, but they could have done much better in my opinion. Heck, without the light trail and the colour, I'd be hard pressed to place where these are from.

Also I think that they should have gone for the original movie light cycles as they are far more iconic then this version.

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By in New Zealand,

I've stopped buying lego for RRP in the past year.
the minimum discount I'll now accept is 30%. And I certainly will not pay over 0.10 per brick, even for licenced products.

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By in United States,

The price is horrible! I would’ve thought it would cost $25 for something like this. Some argue it is just because of the printing, but there’s not even that much of it. I will definately wait until it goes on sale

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By in United States,

I don't see how the pricing can be considered even remotely reasonable. The display base makes up a quarter of the pieces and without it you'd be looking at a 170 piece set. The rest of the set are two builds that, although they look great, are entirely identical. A single bike with a single Minifigure would be worth $10, I don't see how doubling that and adding an extra Minifigure bumps it up to $35.

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By in United Kingdom,

Knock it down to £19.99 and we'll talk lego..

For an ideas set this is OK but does not have a patch on such sets as the big bang lounge, or Ecto 1, and the tardis which were all worth they're RRP prices and generally fantastic models..

Oh and do the wheels move anyway?

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By in United Kingdom,

Been looking forward to seeing them in the flesh so to speak, i.e. without lighting enhancements as on the official images. I think in that respect they do well. Also loving the minifig body prints.

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By in United States,

I’ll pick this up if it goes on Amazon for half price (not likely).
Also, @legoavenger14, yes they do.

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By in Ireland,

Don’t forget the fact that this isn’t just two motorcycles and 3 minifigures. It’s a licensed set from a Disney movie so a license fee is to be expected in the price, and I for one consider it fairly priced at €34.99, in comparison to other licensed sets.

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By in Austria,

I really like the design but still I'll have to pass . And the collectable minifigs (4€ !). But there are still great sets to come in the 2nd HY. Thank's for the review.

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By in Germany,

Lego does not make the price, Disney has the last word on it. That is also the case with Star Wars and explains the disastrous price on the FO AT-ST!

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By in United States,

I Have not yet had the pleasure of viewing any of the Tron films, but I may still pick up this set. It just looks amazing!

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By in United States,

I think it's a really cool display piece and I haven't even seen TRON: Legacy, but because I've never seen it I'm not attached enough to the model to actually purchase it at retail price. If I were to watch it and really enjoy it, maybe... it is certainly one of the best small sets LEGO has made recently, that's for sure.

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By in Netherlands,

Lovely set, when I saw it I immediately put it on my wish list, but I just saw it will cost €40 in The Netherlands, and that is ridiculously overpriced!
At €35 as it is priced in Germany it is already overpriced, but €40 for such a tiny set with just 230 Lego elements is way too expensive. €25 for this set would have been a fair price. Hell! I would even consider buying two of this set at that price. Now, I probably just pass on it entirely.
ps.
Mind you, this is a exclusive [email protected] and Lego store set. So there are no 'middlemen' retailers that need to make a profit on it too. Not just at €30 but even at €25 too, TLG, the license holder Disney, as well as the Ideas creator, will still all profit generously selling this set at that price point.

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By in United States,

I love Tron and the Daft Punk music for Tron as well. This set is an instant buy for me.

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By in United States,

I want to buy this, then sit down to build it with Amazon Echo playing the soundtrack for the film. ;)

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By in United States,

Definitely buy when I see it hit 20% off!

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By in Germany,

Would the handlebars not look better in black?

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By in Canada,

@Beestingvision Amen

Want bad sets with horrible prices to go away? Don't buy them - at least not at full price.
As long as we keep purchasing whatever TLG releases - regardless of price and quality - we'll still be seeing First Order AT-ST's, Assaults on Hoth's and 15c/p sets.

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By in Germany,

@andylego99 - i thought so too.

Great looking set and nice review. Brilliant side photo of the minifigs :o)

Can't believe this 'new' Tron film is 8 years old already!

Maybe it's down to angles, but i think the minifig sits/stands better in the original model.

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By in United States,

Great Review CapnRex101, thanks for the pictures of everything in this set close up. I love this set even more. Nice to hear a review from a Tron Legacy fan.

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By in United States,

I love the Quarra minifigure.

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By in United Kingdom,

I’m sick of everyone complaining about the price of LEGO. There’s alot of things that go into a set including R&D, Wages, Packaging etc.. The Ideas sets come in premium boxes, the instructions are better & licences cost a bomb these days. Plus £5 or £10 is nothing these days compared to years ago!!! Excellent review as always Brickset!!!

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By in United States,

I want this!! I love the TRON movies, so this is more of a reason to buy it. Thank you for the review, and great photos! Hopefully I'll be able to pick a set up when I'm visiting LEGOLAND in 2 weeks.

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By in United States,

'Not all of these designs line up perfectly on my minifigure which is unfortunate, although I expect this is an isolated issue.'

Sadly I doubt it is. The printing this year is on mini-figures is the worst I have ever seen it. And the fact is 30-40% overpriced there is no excuse for the prints not lining up. I would email / call LEGO right away and tell them to send you a replacement. This is inexcusable.

After this review I want the set even less. The bikes are even smaller than I thought and with screwed up minifigures I'll just get some Asian knockoffs that will sadly be better quality and printing.

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By in France,

@chesney107... the Saturn V (21309) is an Ideas set... from a value-for-money viewpoint, it's an undisputed winner by a large margin compared to this Tron offering.

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By in United Kingdom,

@SMC
Yes we can compare.
For instance Women of Nasa.
Same amount of bricks
Also, plenty of specialized personalized printed parts.
4 MINIFIGURES - EACH WITH UNIQUE DESIGN AND PRINTS
(Minifigures are the most expensive part of the set)
30% Less Expensive.

Do you want me to continue?

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By in United States,

I cannot wait to get this set! I love Tron: Legacy so I will order it ASAP

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By in United Kingdom,

I'll point out on the price and with people mentioning that the licence pushes this up....

This set is 13ppp. Marvel sets average 9ppp. DC about 10pp. Star wars is averaging 11ppp lately.

I fail to see what warrents such as high ppp for this set with its, let face it, 'low cult demand'.

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By in Germany,

These pics make the bikes look a lot better than the box image. I don't know if it's the angle or the background colour, but they look horribly blocky there. Price is still utterly laughable.

Just one thing in the review I take issue with, Olivia Wilde's exposed shoulders are by no means a mere 'subtle detail'.

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By in United States,

These look better in your images than they did in the official release, but still not sold on them. Looking forward to the inevitabble mod for lighting them up, though!

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By in United States,

That price tag might be a deal breaker for me, but at least it's cheap compared to most Ideas sets, and way more epic than past entries!

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By in United Kingdom,

Going by price... Pretty much all the Ideas sets were much cheaper per piece then this.

Delorean 8.7p
Ecto-1 8.9p
Big Bang Theory 10.3p
Wall-e 5.9p
Doctor Who 8p.
Beatles Yellow Sub 9.9p

Heck, the Saturn V is a total bargain at 5.6ppp and the old fishing Store is 6.8p.

So again, going by that, this set is hugely overpriced.

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By in United States,

I admit, this is a very interesting set. The bikes are very streamlined and colorful and it has good figures to match. The base also really stand out. This may very well be my first Ideas set I get, which is a shame, as many of them are good sets.

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By in New Zealand,

Dear LEGO Group,

Sooooo many people not going to buy this at full price. Please heed those comments and stop ripping us off. If you want to boost sales, drop prices. Pretty simple, really.

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By in Netherlands,

These are collectors items, unique and limited in production runs (not that limited, but you understand what I mean).

Price is not defined by cost but very much determined by value and what TLG think ‘the collector’ (or fool) will pay for it. ‘Fair’ value is the value on the market, not some philanthropic notion of a toy company bringing smiles to adult faces. By pricing it above the rest, TLG is placing the set slightly out of reach for some, making it just that more exclusive. So it drives up value even more...

This set is not designed to be a big selling item. Leave that to the cash cow lines like City and Creator.

So this fool will pay the admission price for a piece of this, and laugh in his fist if the whole batch is sold out before sale prices are a consideration. And otherwise just be glad he in any case has an exclusive display piece without the worry of losing out. Value.

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By in United States,

To all those complaining about price, sorry, but there's a one word explanation: Disney.

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By in United States,

^Even among a Disney set, it is still priced higher than 90% of the others per piece-wise(Princess/SW/Marvel).

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By in New Zealand,

I definitely don't see Disney being to blame for the pricing here. The movie was released the best part of 8 years ago and performed "adequately". It didn't light up the box office, but it didn't bomb either. Disney did alright from it so I really can't see them charging a fortune to licence the IP after all this time.

The original Ideas submission was, I believe, about 3 years ago - so it was a slow burner to hit the 10000 supporters needed to enter a review. So again, it's not like Disney would've been gleefully rubbing their hands in anticipation of a mass of rabid fans rushing out to buy the set.

Nope. This smacks of TLG themselves trying to milk the cash cow. There's been a fair bit of buzz about the set and people were keen to see the final product, so I guess LEGO figured that "keen interest" equated to "ready to pay anything". Not the first time they've misjudged the market and I'm sure it won't be the last.

The bottom line is that this is a small set with a big price. Packaging it with better quality cardboard and instructions doesn't even come *close* to justifying the retail cost.

So yes, as much as I like the set and as much as I want it, I'll be joining the *many* others who'll patiently wait for it to be on sale. If that's anything like the Adventure Time farce then it'll be on sale permanently from about a fortnight after release. At which point I'll buy or three!!!

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By in United States,

Sorry just not seeing it--everything Disney is price inflated when it comes to Lego. Just a matter of how much. Sure this one's more inflated than others but you figure small production run, custom prints/parts + Disney franchising and it doesn't surprise me. It's a little odd it managed to pass some final sanity check in terms of price for what you're getting, but I don't see this as Lego squeezing "the collector."

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By in United Kingdom,

Everyone complaining about Disney obviously ignore my earlier post showing that Marvel sets (who are own by Disney) are 9ppp and Star Wars (also own by Disney) are 11ppp.... both still cheaper then this.

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By in Netherlands,

And TLG acts all surprised that their profits are down... I will easily vote with my wallet on this mediocre set from a mediocre movie.

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By in Germany,

@chesney107: as other have mentioned and proven by giving examples of other - even licenced - Ideas sets: this set is so ridiculously overpriced that imho the entire AFOL community should boycot this set to show TLG that we will no longer put up with price gouging like this.

Just like the recent CMF series, which by no explanation can be made to look like they are worth 3.99 Euro. Remember, that's almost 5 USD (!) for one Minfig.

This set ranges from 35 Euro (43 USD) in Germany to 40 Euro (49 USD) in the Netherlands. The PPP ratio is about 50% (!) higher than on average for Ideas sets, even licenced ones.
In no way is this anything but a total rip-off.

I have absolutely no problem with honoring a great set, its designers, the R&D department, and even the licence holders, by paying a fair price for such a set. And as many Ideas sets prove, this is entirely possible. But with this set, TLG has put on the straw that broke the donkeys neck. In no way will I support this. TLG has to be given a sign to understand why their profits are down. It is so simple: release great sets at reasonable prices and people will buy them like crazy - see the Saturn V. Release mediocre sets at laughable prices and they will sit in the shelves even on discount - see FO AT-ST.
Granted, this TRON set is not mediocre (wheras the FO AT-ST is a total abomination), it's at least "OK", but still it in no way manages to justify its asking price.

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By in United States,

As "Panic" alluded to, when it comes to collectibles, value is subjective. After you take the Disney licensing into consideration, this set is about $5 overpriced. $30 is about standard nowadays for a licensed set with 3 minifigures. Forget the price per piece method of judging value. Those stupid little 60th Anniversary sets came out to be something like .20 cents per piece, had no licensing costs, no minifigs and no special printed or translucent parts. They sold out immediately and are being flipped for double on ebay.
The question is how bad do you want this set. If you're a fan of Tron and Lego then you'll be more likely to pay the premium or hold out for a 10-20% sale. If you're not a fan then why bother complaining? This set isn't aimed at you. I think Lego accepts and realizes this. You're not going to find this set sitting on the shelves at Walmart and Target. Kids are not necessarily going to want it because the movie is almost ten years old and wasn't a hit at the time. There are no cutesy robots or princesses to help it either. Lego isn't forcing you pay for it and the ravaging this set is getting is ridiculous.

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By in United States,

Mark Stafford mentioned in an interview that price to parts are not all equal. Or he says not logical.
The reason, for the example he gave of an axle piece, was that the shorter axle cost more than the longer ones.
"...it turns out the mould for the 4 long axles is an older one and every time it cycles it only produces half the amount as the 5, 6 or 8 long cross axles’ moulds. The machine has to run for longer, be monitored more and therefore it makes it twice as expensive to make the part..."
"And every single part, all 6000+ of them have similar considerations.."
So with pricing, yes I'd love it to be cheaper too! But with different molds, printing, marketing, licensing, etc., you gotta' factor all those in. It's not one to one every time.

I suspect since it's Disney, and even though the movie's been out so long ago they want their money. That's probably why this set has a higher cost. That's the biggest factor...Disney's license fee.

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By in United States,

Going to wait and see if this drops to $30 which I feel is a reasonable price, then I'm going to snag this set. I've been dying for some TRON Lego since 2010 when I fell in love with Legacy. This set looks amazing and is everything I hoped for.

Hopefully it sells well and we can maybe get some more TRON sets - light jets, a light tank, or even a Recognizer would be awesome! Would love to get minifigs for Clu 2, Kevin Flynn, and good guy Tron as well.

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By in United Kingdom,

£19.99 at most

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By in United States,

This set looks awesome, and I am okay with the price.

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By in United States,

Feels slightly overpriced, maybe to the tune of 5% to 10%, but I'm definitely getting it. For an Ideas set with the unique design process, nicer packaging, expanded booklet, printed pieces, limited production run, and license from Disney, I think the price more or less makes sense.

Everyone who's saying they won't buy it because of the price: you're right. Everyone saying they're going to buy it: you're also right. Value is subjective!

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By in United States,

(Watches the price/value argument like a movie, periodically munching popcorn, until...)

Meh, to be honest, i thought the book was better...

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By in Germany,

To anyone in the US telling us that you feel the price is ok: of course it is - over at your end. 29.99 USD equals about 24 Euro. THAT would be a fair price. As I said, over here the price ranges from 43 to 49 USD, depending on the country. Even more in Australia/New Zealand of course.
And don't start about US price not including VAT. Your VAT/sales tax is laughable. Some states don't even levy a sales tax, and most states that do levy far less than 10%. Even the worst case scenario, California, only has 8.25% sales tax, bringing the gross price of the set to 32.46 USD, or 26.40 Euro.
See the difference? At that price I wouldn't complain either!

Anyone notice that the vast majority of members who are ok with the price are from the US, while the vast majority of those complaining about the price are from Europe or Australia/New Zealand? Guess why.

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By in United States,

^Found this from about 3 years ago on Lego prices in the EU (about end of 2014 or so, so I suspect different VAT currently?)...

"The member states of the EU each set a value-added tax (VAT) on items sold in those countries. This rate currently varies from 15% (Luxembourg) up to 27% (Hungary).

LEGO includes the VAT in the listed price in countries where it is collected. This means the listed retail price is higher than the actual base price of the set.

If you assume a VAT rate of 25% and adjust the list prices accordingly, then comparing the USD prices to the EUR prices shows that US list prices are actually about 96% of EUR prices.
This is an average - many sets sell at a similar or lower actual base price in Europe than in the US (when expressed in USD).

For example Set 60045 Police Patrol sells for $44.99 USD in the US. It sells for 39.99 EUR in Germany. The VAT in Germany is 19% and today's exchange rate is 1.3398. To get the base price of the set in EUR, divide the list price by 1.19. That gives us a base price of 33.60 EUR. Multiply that by the current exchange rate and the USD price you would pay in Germany for this set is $45.02 - just three cents more."

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By in United States,

*laughs* Maybe Trump's trade war will balance the price differences.

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By in United States,

@legoDad42: Want to make your case even better? Do that same math with most all Technic sets and you'll find that the base price of those is FAR lower in the UK/EU than in the US.

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By in United States,

^Word up @Brickmiser!

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By in New Zealand,

If it was as simple as local variations in taxes then the price differences between territories would be consistent. Instead, it seems to be some random mark-up percentage. Here's some examples, adjusted to remove local sales taxes (assuming 10% for US, 20% for UK, 15% for NZ) and converted to US dollars using today's rates on xe.com :-

10255 Assembly Square
US = $250, UK = $205 (82% of US price), NZ = $280 (112% of US price)

21310 Old Fishing Store
US = $135, UK = $160 (119% of US price), NZ = $185 (137% of US price)

75192 Millennium Falcon
US = $720, UK = $735 (102% of US price), NZ = $925 (128% of US price)

70618 Destiny's Bounty
US = $145, UK = $125 (86% of US price), NZ = $185 (128% of US price)

70620 NINJAGO City
US = $270, UK = $295 (109% of US price), NZ = $370 (137% of US price)

And so on and so on, through their entire product catalogue ....

Basically, there's somebody in Billund who's setting prices with a random number generator.

Living in NZ, I can get LEGO bought and shipped from the UK through "grey market routes" cheaper than if I go to a local retailer. Yep, bought and shipped from the other side of the planet for less than if I buy from a store 5 minutes from home. Of course, we can't buy through "official" channels from overseas because of various embargoes that The LEGO Group have placed on retailers like Amazon (who *used* to ship LEGO to NZ, but quietly - with no announced reason - stopped doing so).

If you bear in mind that different LEGO is being produced in multiple locations around the world then the pricing strategy (if there is one) rapidly gets very, very muddled indeed.

Their pricing policy is just complete and utter nonsense, really, and trying to get anything other than an automated, copy-and-paste response from anyone at LEGO is impossible. It's almost as though they really don't give a damn about their customers, or respect them.

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By in United States,

The bikes remind me of the Rocket Cycle in Lego Agents Mission 2: Swamp Raid. I enjoyed building that rocket cycle as it was brick-built with an intresting design, unlike the super-common molded motorcycles.

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By in United States,

i'm impressed. the fan image didn't look the best, but these bikes look great.

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By in United States,

Does it come with a premium box? Maybe that's where the extra $5 goes as well as the license.

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By in Canada,

Just built it, nice set. Looks very good. Like the minifigures as well. A bit pricey, but a real nice set.

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By in United Kingdom,

Does have a nice look to it this set. However as many others have said it's just too damn pricey for what it is. I love the Cuusoo/Ideas range on the whole due to its variety and subject matter but this set is a pass for me.

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By in United States,

Shouldn't Rinzler be named Clu?

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