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Betrayal at Cloud City

Betrayal at Cloud City

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There have been rumours around for some time that the next large Star Wars set would be based on Cloud City, a location that is long overdue a new interpretation. Now we have confirmation:

75222 Betrayal at Cloud City, 2,812 pieces
US $349.99 – CA $399.99 – DE 349.99€ – UK £299.99 – FR 349.99€ – DK 2999DK
Available from 13th September for VIPs, 1st October everyone else.

Visit Bespin’s amazing metropolis in the sky—Cloud City!

Relive a world of unforgettable moments from Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back or add your own fun twists to the story with this LEGO Star Wars 75222 Betrayal at Cloud City set. The amazingly detailed set is divided into 4 sections, each depicting scenes from the classic movie.

There’s a landing platform complete with Boba Fett’s Slave I ship, a detailed promenade, a dining room with seating for 5 minifigures, a garbage processing room with incinerator, and a sensor balcony for epic Luke vs. Vader Lightsaber duels.

There’s also a carbon freeze chamber with a function to ‘freeze’ Han in carbonite, an interrogation chamber and prison cell, a secondary landing platform for the Twin-Pod Cloud Car, and so much more.

Add an astonishing 18 LEGO minifigures plus 2 droids to the mix, and you have a set that Star Wars and LEGO fans of any age would be proud to add to their collection.

  • Includes 18 minifigures: Han Solo, Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker in Bespin outfits, Chewbacca, C-3PO, Lando Calrissian, Lobot, 2 Cloud City Guards, 2 Cloud Car Pilots, Leia and Han in Hoth outfits, Darth Vader, Boba Fett, 2 Stormtroopers and an Ugnaught, plus R2-D2 and an IG-88 droid.
  • Section 1 features a landing platform with a sliding entrance door and Boba Fett’s Slave I ship with an opening minifigure cockpit, movable wings and space underneath to store the Han in carbonite element.
  • Section 2 features a dining room with a table, seats for 5 minifigures and a decorative Cloud City micro build; lounge with a transparent sculpture and 2 chairs; garbage processing room with an incinerator, conveyor belt and a deactivated IG-class droid; and a promenade with tree sculpture, mural relief and opening doorways leading to other parts of the model.
  • Section 3 features a sensor balcony with railing and swing-out function, plus a maintenance cabin with opening round window for epic Lightsaber duels, plus a carbon freeze chamber with lever-activated ‘freeze’ function.
  • Section 4 features a dark-red corridor leading to the interrogation chamber with a turning interrogation chair, plus a prison cell, hangar with a secret trapdoor and tool & weapon rack, and space for the Twin-Pod Cloud Car with opening minifigure cockpits and 2 stud shooters.
  • New minifigure details include Leia’s red dress, Han’s Corellian blood stripe, Luke’s dark-tan Dagobah outfit, the Ugnaught’s head decoration and the cloud car pilots.
  • Weapons include Han’s blaster pistol, Chewbacca’s bowcaster, Luke’s Lightsaber, Vader’s Lightsaber, Boba Fett’s blaster rifle, IG-88’s blaster rifle, 5 blaster pistols and 4 blasters.
  • Accessory elements include a wrench, handcuffs and Lobot’s cybernetic band.
  • Stage air-to-air battles between Boba Fett’s Slave I and the Twin-Pod Cloud Car.
  • Pull the carbon freeze chamber lever to pretend freeze Han in carbonite!
  • Relive unforgettable scenes from the classic Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back movie.
  • This amazing set is part of the LEGO Star Wars Master Builder Series.
  • Cloud City measures over 6” (16cm) high, 22” (58cm) wide and 22” (56cm) deep.
  • Slave I measures over 4” (11cm) high, 7” (19cm) long and 7” (18cm) wide.

Take a look at dozens of images on the set details page then let us know what you think in the comments. Personally I think it's the best Star Wars set we've seen for some time.

It's interesting that LEGO says it's 'part of the LEGO Star Wars Master Builder Series' -- a new classification -- and not labelled UCS, which no doubt will cause a dilemma for some!

 

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147 comments on this article

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By in Norway,

Hmmm, not a SWfan but most of this may be incorporated in a OctanTower

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By in United Kingdom,

I like it but not great for display. Where will I put it, on top of the death star?

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By in United States,

Pretty good rendition and I like that they went more Death Star than Hoth. That said, I think it will have to be a pass for me.

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By in United States,

Easy pass for me, but I can see the appeal for people who like scenes. At least the rumor mill can finally move on!

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By in Netherlands,

It is.... actually very ugly.

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By in United Kingdom,

My first thought: wow... this is awesome!

My second thought: that's a great minifig selection.

My third thought: they really messed up on the cloud car...

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By in United Kingdom,

Meh.

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By in United Kingdom,

At first I thought "Damn, that's awesome!". As I've started to look at it more though, I've noticed a lot of problems with it.

Okay, so its got a great selection of minifigs, that's a plus, an you can recreate all the iconic scenes with the set. However, its going to be hard displaying it all with how its laid out. The cloud car is frankly hideous. Think if they'd made this into more individual diaorama sets (Ie 75137 and 75183)it'd have been better. While the Slave 1 looks great in small scale, think if they'd made it larger so they could have had the loading ramp for the frozen Han, and some poop out missle launchers it'd have been a hell of a lot better.

While its decent overall, too many small problems / errors chip away at the appeal for me and it feels like your most paying out for the large number of minifigs given the still quite high price per piece.

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By in United States,

Gross. Pass. Also that box art is terrible.

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By in United Kingdom,

I'm not a SW fan in the slightest but this looks underwhelming. I don't know the source material but it doesn't seem to include enough detail to make it come across as a 'city' - the Ninjago City set in contrast includes a lot of small details. As a play set though, it looks to hold a lot of value. I'm sure SW fans, kids in particular, will spend hours playing with this.

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By in United Kingdom,

It may be heresy, but this is one set I'd have loved to see in the new microscale that some large sets seem to be adopting now. As it is it just seems a bit...bland. Not much of a step up from the last one.

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By in Norway,

This is pretty bad... I see a lot of nice details in there, but the layout is so messy it just becomes an undisplayable hodge podge.

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By in Czech Republic,

The way they tried to force the vignettes into the approximation of the cloud city shape is unfortunate :/ It looks almost sadly odd on the box art pic, such blocky thing hovering in the clouds. Ok figures, ok rooms, the mini slave I is kinda nice, but on the whole it looks terrible :/

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By in United States,

I love the UCS concept despite only owning the Snowspeeder so far (I might add Slave I soon) but I really like the decision to create a new category. Like the Death Star and Hoth, CC doesn't feel like a UCS set, which in my interpretation, are closer to scale models more accurately depicting the subject. Ultimately it doesn't mean much due to piece count and cost but I think it makes sense to create a little bit of differentiation.

That said, I really like the dining room scene, especially the Cloud City model in the corner. I would love to see that pop up in an advent cal.

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By in Australia,

I think this is an excellent play set, just like the Death Star; neither of which are designed really for display.
I really like that Lego listened and did not place a UCS label on a large play set (after the Assault on Hoth).
Will wait for the review on this one....
(Still hoping for a UCS ISD though :) )

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By in United States,

I like it. It's not great, but I don't know if they could do CC any better.

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By in Belgium,

I don't like the overall shape, but if you take the scenes separately, the designers have done a great job. The minifigs look fantastic and I must say this rendition of the Slave I is classy. The Cloud Car, however, looks too dark and the canopy is messed up… I'll probably get it, but I don't think it'll be a day 1 purchase — especially if prices are artificially inflated in the Benelux again… (my guess would be 370 or 380 euros).

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By in United Kingdom,

I like it, but as said before it's not the most displayable of sets. Would prefer several smaller modular sets that we could have arranged how we wanted, especially as the carbonate chamber has had a very recent set.

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By in United States,

It is a play set, not a display set. As such, dropping the UCS badge seems to fit. My kids would love it but I'm not a fan of the price.

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By in United Kingdom,

Looks like I'm out of step (again) as I like it
It's pricey but there's a lot going on to warrant that price
I do wonder the target for this. Being more of a playset than a display piece, I'd suspect a younger audience but then the price suggest an older audience.

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By in United States,

Gonna be tough to land the UCS Falcon on that landing pad.

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By in Netherlands,

This set looks absolutely fantastic! An great selection of minifigures from all Cloud City scenes. I love the small scale Slave I and the Cloud Car. It was already on my wish list and I might get this one when released. DE 349.99€ looks reasonable, although, in the Netherlands it's probably a bit more, but I hope not too much more, we'll see.

I think it was a good idea from TLG to brand this set as "LEGO Star Wars Master Builder Series" to differentiate it from more display sets as this one looks more like a play set just like 75098 Assault on Hoth.

Besides, I wonder why is there no 'Master Builder Series' branding on the box?

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By in France,

Wow... So long expected... At last here it is. But far too expensive for my own Lego budget. Death star concept like (I'm a bit surprised about this, as mentioned it won't be that easy to display?), a new version of Twin pod car... And so many good details and references. Well. Another thing to dream about along with all UCS SW sets.

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By in Spain,

Not a fan of play sets.. also the shape is ugly

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By in United States,

I have purchased most of the UCS ship sets...and this set is just baaaaaaad.
*It's like they learned little from the Hoth play set. A bunch of individual scene sets squeezed together.
*I already own a the UCS Slave One why would I want a smaller version of it? The Cloud Car doesn't look much better than the chunky version from the 1990s.
*When Luke is on the tower he will effectively be sitting on the display surface--there's no sense of danger or potential for falling. The set design should have been VERTICAL not horizontal.
*The landing pad should be covered in smooth tiles not studs to give it a polished/finished feeling.

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By in Switzerland,

At first I was like: WHAT??? The CC we were all waiting for???!! And then I saw the pictures and price/pieces...

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By in Sweden,

Haaaard pass. Two huge missed opportunities with Hoth and this one, Hoth should have been one compact set like this one, Cloud City should have been vertical, not horizontal.
Just weird.

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By in United States,

I don't think it's too bad. At the very least, it's better than the glorified hallway we got with the original. Don't know if I'll get it since I'm not a huge SW collector, but I wouldn't be disappointed owning it.
That being said, I'm honestly more interested in the Slave 1. I have the very first Slave 1 set, and have been itching to have a better version of the ship in that smaller size. Wonder how costly it'd be to order the parts for it...?

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By in United States,

To me, it looks like a big play set, not really something that would suit to collectors.

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By in United States,

That Lando cape!

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By in United Kingdom,

Just read all of the comments thus far, and i'm surprised so many people don't like it... but i do totally agree. It's a great playset, will be great for kids, but, like everyone else, i'm also disappointed. I have money waiting to buy a big set this year and this was gonna be the one, but i'm afraid i'll have to pass. Would rather have the white falcon and ninjago city docks for £300 (currently around that on amazon for the two).

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By in Canada,

I think a lot of the negativity is stemming from the very high expectations people have been building up since the rumors started. Plus the fact that it was rumored to be a $500 US set thus comparable in size to the Death Start and we now see it is smaller.

The one argument I agree with is the Luc/Vader duel....where's the iconic fall!!!

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By in United Kingdom,

A Willrow Hood minifigure would have been fun here...

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By in United States,

I don't like the layout at all and for $349 this is a hard pass. I don't think Star Wars is what it used to be and I no longer have any desire to have these. Too many renditions, too many poor layout decisions and the markup on the set prices are ridiculous. With these over-inflated licensing fees, Lego can kma. I'll stick to many other themes.

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By in Canada,

Meh!

They did the best they could in recreating so many scenes, but as a UCS collector its a pass...Hogwarts Castle it is :)

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By in United States,

It's a whole lot of meh...for the price, I'd just shell out the extra 50$ and get Hogwarts. That one seems to display a lot better.

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By in United States,

It’s about half the size of the Death Star and therefore should be half the price. This set looks like it should only be $250. Also if the set does ever go on sale someone can have my mini Slave I’d rather make a larger platform and have my regular Slave I there.

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By in United Kingdom,

Love it but can't help but wish they would have made a minifigure mould of Chewbacca carrying C3-PO.

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By in Canada,

I’m so excited!! And I just cant hide it! I’m About to lose control and i think I like it! Like it!!

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By in United Kingdom,

"Personally I think it's the best Star Wars set we've seen for some time."
Hmmmm

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By in United States,

So much negativity! It's not surprising that it's ugly, it is not supposed to be a display piece! Poor Lego just can't win. It isn't perfect, but it does the job.

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By in Australia,

Incredible set of minifigs.

But very ugly, terrible box art (not sure how you can get box art that wrong) and incredibly expensive.

As others have said it should have been vertical not horizontal, some utterly baffling decisions.

Empire Strikes Back is my favourite movie of all time, but with Insult on Hoth and now this, quite disappointed with how badly they have got it wrong with the two big set pieces.

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By in Austria,

Thoughts:
1) The price is some bullsh*t... then again, so are all the SW prices this year.
2) They finally dual-mold Han's legs... anyone wanna bet that they're not going to appear in cheaper sets?
3) Except for Bespin-Leia, Bespin-Luke and Bespin-Lando, who are appearing for the first time since the old Cloud City, the minifigs are nothing special or useful at all. The new Lobot is strangely ugly. Glad I have the UCS Slave I and the "Bespin, Lobot & Cloud Car" planet set.
4) I think the label of "Master Builder Series" will coexist with the "Ultimate Collector Series" one - so they're not going to be calling future large playsets like the Hoth Mess and this one "UCS".

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By in United States,

I don't mind it, but the price does seem quite high given the piece count, and I would have preferred a little more emphasis on the Vader/Luke duel. I would argue they could have done without the landing platform part for the Slave I and put efforts into the other areas so they aren't as cramped. The landing pad takes up quite a lot of space at the expense of the other scenes.

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By in Ireland,

Well, that's... suboptimal

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By in Canada,

Finally, a new Lando Calrissian minifig in his original outfit!

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By in Ireland,

I kind of like it. There are lots of nice details. I do really like the mini cloud city on top. I'm not sure about the inclusion of Slave I, since many people interested in the set will already have the UCS version. Would prefer if they'd used the brick count to make a landing platform that could fit the UCS version! Also, the whole thing should be on legs. That way the landing pad and Luke and Vader's fight wouldn't be on the tabletop.

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By in Austria,

"New minifigure details include (...) Han’s Corellian bloodstripe"
WHAT?
Looks like I'm doubling down on my second point.... I hate Lego sometimes.

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By in Gibraltar,

Was really looking forward to this set! What an utter dissapointment! Absolutely awful and the price is ridiculous! Hoth 2 anyone?!?!
Its a pass from me!

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By in Norway,

Looks great! better start saving some VIP points!

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By in United States,

Wow .... there's so much negativity from UCS collectors here. Go away. Or calm down. It's a playset, not a display piece for your office or SW shrine.

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By in United States,

Omg I wanted this to be real so much!

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By in United Kingdom,

Gonna get it. Glad so many people dislike it. I think it is one of the best sets ever. I've never spent over £80 on a single Lego before, so this might be my first 'big' set. I was not very interested in the Cloud City rumours and definitely didn't expect to buy it, but seeing it now, I can't resist. However, my parents might kill me if they find out and storage is gonna be a problem in my small shared uni flat but oh well. I've always wanted to get a big set like the Death Star, Ewok Village, some of the Modular buildings or even Assault on Hoth. Can't wait.
(Plus, I really want Han in that outfit and the minifigure is great)

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By in United Kingdom,

Wish they didn't go with the "Open Dollhouse Look". Oh well, money saved :)

Really hope they put out an updated UCS Imperial Star Destroyer in 2019!!!

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By in United States,

i love the mini slave

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By in United Kingdom,

More like "A Betrayal of Cloud City"!

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By in United Kingdom,

The slave 1 looks so cute.

Can't wait to get this and then figure out where to put it. I guess it could sit on my UCS falcon lol.

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By in United States,

"Betrayal of Cloud City"? Seriously? Have a little perspective.

As others have said, most of the negative feedback here stems from the unrealistic expectations we had built up as this set churned in the rumor mill for literally years, not to mention the original 10123 set was/is many collectors' Holy Grail set. Strip away all that, and it's not a bad set. It contains all the necessary scenes and minifigs to recreate everything we see in the film.

The price/piece ratio could be better, but it's not awful, and it largely stems from the excellent minifig selection. The only minifig that's at all superfluous is the second Cloud Car pilot. I believe this is the first time we've seen dual-molded legs and side printing on a SW minifig, which is fitting, as 10123 was the first instance of arm printing in the theme.

I don't understand why people are ragging on the vehicles included. The Cloud Car is leagues better than the 2002 version, and the mini Slave I is almost the exact same size as the original set from 2000, which I'm certain is intentional.

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By in Russian Federation,

Wow, I wasn't expected it to be that bad. Actually, no, I was after they re-released the DS in 2016. It's great how Collectors' sets are becoming regular sets with bigger number of pieces.

A horrible incarnation of Cloud City and a wasted opportunity in general.

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By in United States,

Boo, money grab for Lego, sorry SW fans. They've been doing well with better detailed sets to sent this expensive small scale model. Minifigs are great tho.

Passing.

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By in United Kingdom,

LOL at this....it's god awful, £300 for this?!

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By in United States,

My negative feedback doesn't stem from unrealistic expectations - mine comes from the fact that I wanted a model of Bespin rather than a playset. And discounting that fact, it looks like TLG gave the box art job to their newest junior graphic designer.

£300 is an awful lot to ask parents to put down for a playset for their kids, so who is the market for this? Either have a cheaper playset for the kids, or make the £300 set a scale model, perhaps microfig scale (like Hogwarts) or smaller.

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By in Sweden,

Even for a play set it looks kinda unfinished.

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By in United Kingdom,

I know I won't be getting this as the price is too high and it doesn't WOW me like SW Lego used to, my last SW set was the non-UCS Y-Wing and I can't see anything I want when I look at the current offerings.

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By in Spain,

It's very disappointing that the two most iconic scenes cover the same space than the detention room.
Also, that box art, seems like photoshopped or something like that ...

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By in United States,

I know I will mention a lot of the same like and dislikes, great minifig selection, but overall a pass. So are they calling it a UCS set or not? This kinda brings me back to Lego marketing this stuff wrong, similar to the Hogwarts castle. Huge price points means limited buyers. Why not break these huge sets up into multiple really detailed modulars (brick bank) and release them every 6 months over the course of several years. At say for example $150 a set, way more people can afford that, and then they save up for the next 6 month release. After say 3 years you have all 6 and can complete the entire "build." City builders wait "patiently" each year for just 1 release, so this is nothing new that Lego doesn't already do. Plus in the long run, Lego makes way more money and the customer gets a way nicer quality product. WIN WIN!

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By in Sweden,

STOP MAKING PLAYSETS TAKE UP THE UCS SPACES!!!
The Y-wing Starfighter that came out this year, that's a UCS sets. Those sets are meant for AFOL, to be accurate and for display!

Aside from that, this set looks pretty decent. But release it as a big playset instead of taking up spaces reserved for UCS sets. We only get like 2 to 1 a year...

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By in United States,

"Hi, I'm an adult Star Wars Fan and a Lego Fan, and I hate everything about Lego Star Wars because new sets can't compare to the precious nostalgia of the late '90's. I'm going to make a difference by listing my grievances about brand-new sets that don't live up to my unrealistic expectations."

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By in United States,

Amazing! So many great features and scenes... and I love the little Slave I!

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By in Canada,

I honestly think the twin pod car looks fine.. but minisized slave I looks really bad. The scale doesn't work here, boba Fett Looks ridiculous in the windshield of it. Also those ugly studs running down the length of it...

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By in Canada,

Most of it looks like a play set more than a display set . . . Looks good though! It took them long enough!

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By in France,

Well. I don't know what to think about this one. For sure a very good play set, but then for kids and very (too) expensive. As a display scene for SW fans, it's like there are too many scenes but each is too small. I mean I would have preferred no carbonite chamber but a bigger dinner room or final duel area... I don't know. Each time an UCS is released I am completely stunned with it, but it does not work for the moment with this one. Death star has its own recognizable shape, Ewoks village was so beautiful. It's like there something missing in it, when all is there. I feel like it will be the second UCS set that I won't dream about for hours. I don't know. Too expensive for me anyway, but will wait to read / watch Brickset and JANGBRiCKS reviews to make up my mind on this one.

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By in United Kingdom,

It's a play-set not a display piece!

If anyone over 14 has posted on here complaining about it they really need to take a long hard look at themselves.

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By in France,

It will be interesting to see where TLG goes with SW licencing... along the lines of a Master Building Series.

With 75052 Mos Eisley Cantina, there is a Luke Landspeeder included, as well as Bith Musicians and a rare (lego) dewback.

A couple of years later, Luke' Landspeeder is updated and released as a seperate set... 75173, along with some upgraded minifigs, but no R2-D2.

Fast forward to end 2017 and there is a new Mos Eisley Cantina, this time it's 75205... new minifigs, including barman Wuher, and a spanking new speeder (Greedo's).

A Master Building Series for TLG would be a new approach … a progressive build up to recreate one or more scenes... there's a ton of potential out there... the evergreen question remains the same... will it work ?

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By in United Kingdom,

I to wished they had made a minifigure of Chewbacca carrying C3-PO. How is it not in this set. Its such an obvious idea and one needed for this set.

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By in United States,

I think the Slave I scale would be a great new line for Lego Star Wars. That said, I don't know if I can justify the space and money for this set.

The other thing: Lego just put out the Carbon Freeze set, so I feel that's 1/5 of this build. You can buy that set for about $20. Let's say they created the other environments as modulars with a similar price point. Maybe add the framing set that all the modular sections attach to, and then maybe they'd be on to something.

I'm not complaining about the set, I just wish it offered something new.

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By in United States,

Wait, why is the cloud car red? I thought it was orange in the movie, and the most recent (micro) Lego version was also orange.

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By in Ireland,

Sometimes I do agree that AFOLs can lose sight of LEGO being aimed at kids rather than adults; however here, I can understand the complaints. This is a huge, expensive set --- it shouldn't really be primarily a playset at that price point. Very few kids who want this will be able to afford it unfortunately, and judging by the comments here, the AFOL collectors are very divided about wanting it.

So the target market is incredibly unclear. I'm worried that LEGO has repeated the Assault on Hoth mistake of creating a gigantic playset that's both too expensive for most kids and not aesthetically appealing enough for many collectors.

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By in Australia,

Farkin sweet

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By in United States,

I hate the price but love the set- $349.99 is well beyond my budget. I get that this is made for Collectors, though, so I'll just let them enjoy it.

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By in Puerto Rico,

Looks great but not for me for the following reasosn: it is open rarher than closed, I have been looking to enter the UCS line but not like this, and I only want that Cloud Car. Happy hunting for you guys.

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By in United Kingdom,

Have they included the Boba from the UCS slave 1 if so that means the UCS slave 1 now contains no exclusive minifigures

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By in Brazil,


6000 pieces - HARRY POTTER: $400

2.500 pieces - SW - $350?????????????? For this set?? almost the price of the old death star
I am very disappointed with the latest SW sets. Or the design is not enough or the price is ridiculous, like the new X-wing

No, thank you.

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By in United States,

Overall, it's not bad. I like a lot of the details and inclusions, but the biggest problem I see is the overall shape. If they're going to make it resemble Cloud City on the whole, the entire set needs to do that. Instead, two quarters of it are circular and the other two quarters stick out awkwardly; even the two quarters that are circular appear a bit cut off. So, like others have said, it won't make a great display piece.

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By in United States,

Set looks pretty good, only real issue is the price - has the usual Disney tax added on.

I also don't like that the set is PERMANENTLY open on the roof - it makes it feel untidy, and adding in some removable roof pieces would have made the set a better value proposition.

Then there's little things that seem "off" like the dining room wall piece going over the edge of the base in the lower righthand quandrant. That seems like sloppy building, and even as a kid I would have avoided doing something like that.

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By in United States,

I love it! The set that this reminds me of the most is, of course, the 10188 Death Star. Which is among the most popular SW sets of all time. Definitely a buy; possibly even a Day 1 buy.

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By in United States,

YUP! This is a must buy...and after awhile a rebuild to make larger.

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By in United Kingdom,

I was liking this set then realised Lego completely dropped the ball, where is the Willrow Hood minifig?

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By in United States,

Since I missed out on the UCS Star Destroyer and I was hoping we'd get that or a UCS AT-AT. So when I first heard it was going to be Cloud City I was wondering how they would design it. In my opinion they didn't design it very well, which is becoming a trend for the past year or so. Sets go from very good to very bad in their design.

Besides being ugly, it's too expensive and it's too deep to display. If I don't like an expensive set I usually buy the minifigs, but I'm not even interested in those.

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By in Singapore,

Good figures overall, some...great! Yet...this is another Hoth in many respects. Disappointed that this isn’t a ‘display’ set with playset inside / hidden behind panels.

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By in Netherlands,

Well at least Dutch price is same as German price. Hopefully Lego had finally come to its senses... https://shop.lego.com/nl-NL/Verraad-in-Cloud-City-75222

Unless they pull off a 10228 Monster Mansion where they had a lower price listed initially until it was raised for certain regions...

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By in Finland,

Cloud City measures over 6” (16cm) high = enough said.

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By in United States,

I my opinion the front box art looks very bad. just looks like a plastered sticker. but i guess it hard to capture a building like that while featuring everything.

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By in United Kingdom,

Not impressed with this at all, too much grey when cloud city is a bright gleaming palace, looks like a slice of a Death Star with a bit more internal detail. No mention of it being a UCS set on the box. Another Hoth disaster set!

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By in Canada,

@AnnaBuildsLego You've made a great point here that I think ultimately summarizes this set and situation. I think that TLG has heard the demand for bigger and more complex sets by the AFOL community in recent memory (thinking Saturn V, Old Fishing Store, UCS MF, Ninjago City, Hogwarts, etc.), but this one is a bit of a head scratcher. Hopefully they learn something from every new release.

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By in United States,

Yes, TeaWeevil, it should be orange but I would prefer dark orange. I looked at pics of it and dark orange would look better with a little dark grey. Lego has made most of these parts in dark orange before.
Red is a really strange and wrong decision.

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By in United Kingdom,

I’m glad I don’t collect Star Wars Lego, seems you guys get all the expensive sets , £299.99 wow feel for your wallets

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By in United Kingdom,

I think the Cloud Car gripe from "anyone over the age of 14" is legit, as the incorrect colour hints at laziness/price-gouging on TLG's part.

At a glance it looks to me like most of those parts were already available in New Dark Red and not quite so many in Orange (let alone Dark Orange or Medium Dark Flesh). For a set this size, even a playset aimed solely at kids, it would be nice to think they could break out a few more molds in a new colour.

Happy to be wrong when the inventory comes out, so I acknowledge this is pure speculation from an AFOL who isn't interested in the set anyway.

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By in United States,

All of you complaining should realize this is a toy company designing things for children. Adults aren't always the intended audience - surprisingly play sets aimed at children are intentionally designed to maximize play opportunities

"Oh but why is it so expensive? The price proves this was made for AFOLS." No, it doesn't. Considering the hundreds if not thousands parents spend on their children around the holiday season, parents might sacrifice some other gifts to make up for the cost of this.

It's not all about you, it's about the kids, although considering you're acting like children maybe this set is actually made for you after all

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By in United States,

An interesting set, but ultimately not for me. However, that's not a statement about quality, but rather that I prefer the ship sets to the playset ones personally. A full exterior Cloud City might peek my interest, but displaying something that top heavy sounds like a bit of a nightmare.

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By in United Kingdom,

Disappointed to see neither a new Han in carbonite with updated hair, nor a Chewbacca with C-3PO mould.

As for the appearance, I honestly liked the original better. This feels unfinished. The exposed backs of the wall panels, the empty corridors. Not getting a printed 6x6 dish for the window Luke gets thrown out of. It's like a passable MOC. Really not impressed with this one. Considering how many great sets we've had lately, this is a real miss.

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By in United Kingdom,

I probably would never have bought this regardless of price, thought I love the films and actually like the playset concept.
My disappointments relate to two of the minifigs - 1) don't bother touting that you've done Leia's Cloud City outfit if you're not going to use a new, more accurate hair piece for the braids. 2) agree with poster above - there should be a way for Chewie to carry a C3PO head and torso on his back.

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By in Netherlands,

While I like the addition of a Slave I, I was hoping for a new Millennium Falcon. Come on LEGO it's been a while ;o)

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By in United Kingdom,

I like it but probably wont buy it,
The UCS Y-wing or The Expert creator Roller coaster would take my money before this tbh

I like the smaller version of slave one and all minifigs are spot on, the cloud car should be in an Orange though, that looks Red! so i'll give this a 7/10 But i wont be skinting myself for this lego..

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By in Switzerland,

i like the micro-scale cloudcity on top of the set

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By in United States,

Was NOT expecting this much controversy, goodness. To the people wanting a display set - it’s cloud city. Either Lego cuts down on the number of rooms and puts more pieces to making it prettier or they don’t. If they had cut down on the number of rooms then you get people saying “You didn’t include xyz iconic scene?!” It’s really a lose-lose scenario for Lego.

To the people wanting a playset - it still is a little messy, though. It looks super cramped, and the transitions between rooms don’t look natural, esp compared to the Death Star.

I do think a set labeled “cloud city” should be recognizable, though, and it really isn’t from some angles.

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By in United Kingdom,

It’s been a long time coming and I must say I really like the look of it, lots of play features and details, lots of minifigs.
I really don’t get all the negativity, Lego is first and foremost a toy company and whilst sets like 75192 are definitely aimed more at AFOLs, they still have to produce playsets for children which are more about playability than how they look on display. I really like that they now produce UCS models of ships for display and also more play orientated UCS sets like this, the Death Star and dare I mention it, Assault on Hoth. Some may argue that the price is too high for a kids playset but in this world of iPhones, iPads, games consoles etc it’s clear that many parents are able to spend huge amounts on their kids so why shouldn’t Lego go after a bit of that market? Personally I’m looking forward to this set.

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By in United Kingdom,

What is with all the haters. We have waited for this for years - we knew it was going to be similar to the Death Star design - I am super impressed with it. Yes it is expensive - too expensive for us normal working people - but we can save up and make some decisons about what sets we are not getting - it looks brilliant. They do have all the scenes - the minifigs look brillant - I am struggling to understand some of the claims of it looking a mess and it not being vertical?! - how on earth would it be vertical and not be constantly knocked over and smashed to who knows what?! Slave 1 looks great - cloud car could be orange. Great set. Good job to the designers

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By in Canada,

I love it! Can't wait. Great minifig selection and I think they represented all the important scenes very well.

But I wish they would save the pieces on the side builds like the Slave I (and Vader's tie from the UCS Death Star). They don't look great and just add to the cost. I'd rather a separate Cloud Car set with more pieces.

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By in United States,

I haven't read through all of the comments yet, mostly because they keep pouring in faster than I could read them. My feelings seem to echo the comments I've read so far. As a playset this thing is great, the individual rooms are well done and the minifigures are spectacular, including many absolute must haves (Leia's dress! Bespin Luke and Lando - his cape is great, those Cloud Car Pilots). The overall shape is a bit odd, and does present a displaying challenge, but doesn't put me off from buying the set. The Cloud Car looks good to me, certainly an improvement over the aged original. Not sure they needed to include the Slave I though, although they managed to make it look great at a smaller scale, it just doesn't seem that necessary (maybe since I bought the UCS version). I feel like the pieces for it could have been better used to expand the set. In the end though it is the price that puts me off. It just doesn't seem to be a 350.00 set, although I know many of the pieces are large and it's volume rather than price/piece count to look at, it still seems too high. This may have to wait for discount, as I really can't see paying more than 300.00 for it.

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By in United States,

The biggest set I thought I wanted until it came out. Id rather have a decent system scale cloud car I guess. Yikes.

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By in United States,

I feel like I've seen the "Master Builder" label in a catalog from yonks ago, used for sets of a similar nature. I don't know if I'm just misremembering though. But it sounds very familiar. (It's not the Master Builder Academy theme, and it's not the BIONICLE Master Builder Set 10023.)

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By in United Kingdom,

It's a big mess. Must say that I haven't seen an uglier SW set than this. Even the UCS Hoth echo base is an absolute beauty compared to this.
The microscale twin-pod and Slave 1 are ridiculously bad. Nothing Ucs about it IMHO.

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By in United States,

The figs are pretty nice (Shame no new hairpiece on the Bespin Leia and same old hair mold for Carbonite Han) but the build is just... gross. Almost kind of Juniors-esque in some places. This... really should have been a UCS. Sorry. This just doesn't work.

See, there's very nice detailing in the rooms, but the overall shape of the set is just a big blob. If it was more Death Star-like, with open playspace, but a still recognizable shape, this would have been amazing.

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By in United States,

Watched that film for the first time yesterday so I can actually recognise a scene from a Star Wars film in Lego finally!!

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By in United States,

Absolutely horrible.

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By in United States,

Long-time brickset reader. First time brickset comment-er. Had to create an account to say:
The amount of griping and complaining by Star Wars "fans" is seriously impressive. Even by pre-school standards. If you don't like it, you do realize there is no law requiring you to buy it, right? If someone wants to pick up 2,812 elements, create a better rendition of Cloud City, and THEN say, "See what more could have been done!" that would make a lot of sense. But--if you haven't done that--then your whining is just 3-year-old babble.

Nice job, Lego developers and engineers! Some really amazing concepts and building techniques going on in that set. If I had 1,000 years and 2,812 elements, I could not have done better. And I'm happy to admit it. Don't listen to the 3-year-olds; it's their nap time.

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By in United Kingdom,

I'd say as a playset to recreate scenes from the film, it's a win. As a model of a city in the clouds, it's a fail.

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By in United Kingdom,

Look like it should be a lepin set.

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By in United States,

"My negative feedback doesn't stem from unrealistic expectations - mine comes from the fact that I wanted a model of Bespin rather than a playset."

We were never promised that.

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By in Switzerland,

What is wrong with LEGO?

For 499,00 CHF, you get the Hogwarts™ Castle - 71043, 6020 pieces or the Betrayal at Cloud City™ - 75222, only 2812 pieces.

A week ago, Huw wrote the article Digging deeper into the database ( https://brickset.com/article/37956/digging-deeper-into-the-database ), with the best and worst price per piece, as the best and worst exchange rate (UK vs US).

The two sets are here good examples.

Sorry I'm not ready to pay this price, also if it is a "LEGO Star Wars Master Builder Series".

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By in United States,

I like a lot of the rooms, and the figure selection is pretty neat. The overall shape profile is a bit off in my opinion and would not look to great on display unless tilted to allow a clear view of all the rooms. I do think its a step up from the Assault on Hoth with everything connected on one build, and I like how it imitates the best of the Death Star build. Since I am still in school and on a tight budget I couldn't afford it anyways so my opinion probably isn't worth much here anyways! :P

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By in United States,

Not my thing, but I'm super excited for those of you whom I know have waited a -long- time with this at the top of your list! Looks like a great set!

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By in United States,

While browsing through youtube, I found they had revealed this set. My initial thoughts is this set is pretty amazing and even still, I think Lego has done a pretty good job on this set. The minifigures are fantastic and the builds look pretty fine to me. I can sort of understand why people are complaining about why this is a playset and the awful price and whatnot, but honestly, I'm just not sure how they could of done it any other way, unless you wanted another model kind of like the Death Star II set that was released a while back. I certainly won't be getting this set, as it's far from my budget line. (I prefer $100 at most) and it would take far too much space on the shelf to display any other sets. I may want to pick up a few figures from Bricklink, even though they probably might be pretty expensive, even alone. Anyways, these are my thoughts and I hope you can understand it. I guess, for many fans, both the movies and the sets are in decline. Before I go, I'll leave with a philosophical saying, "Even the greatest things in life must fall in one time or another."

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By in United States,

So sad... I’ve been waiting for a CC set for years now, but this is a joke for $350 US for only 2,800 pieces. I’m passing on this one unless it goes well below $300.

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By in United States,

Eh, I'm on the fence for this one. For starters at about 12.5c (USD) per piece, it's quite expensive. Secondly, I guess I'm more of a display guy than a playability guy especially when it comes to Star Wars. Which is why I have never bought the Death Star. If LEGO included a detachable roof, I think I'd be more inclined to buy this set. I do like that every scene from Ep.5 is included though. The dinning room and Luke/Vader dual skywalk look particularly great. And the amount of minifigs is awesome. LEGO designed a good set, but I don't think it's for me.

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By in Germany,

It's no display piece and no collector's item.

But this time they actually listened to the fans, valued the UCS label, and didn't call this set UCS. So everything seems fine.

If you like play sets and can afford it, then buy it :-). I won't.

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By in United States,

This set is getting too much hate. Microscale Hogwarts not getting enough hate.

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By in Jordan,

I think it looks like a cool but pricey set with a lot of playability. However, it doesn't look like we're getting a minifig-scale Slave I next year anymore...

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By in United States,

I know I'm a little late to the party, but here are my thoughts on the set.

It has its ups and downs like any other set. It should also be held to the standards of a playset, NOT a model.

Pros:
-It contains all of the most iconic scenes from Cloud City.
-The locations are all immediately recognizable.
-It has most of the characters that you'd expect in Cloud City.
-Unlike the Death Star, the four perpendicular support walls are not flat grey blocks. They are intentionally stylized.
-It includes two iconic vehicles from Cloud City, both of which are excellently designed.

Cons:
-The layout does not seem optimal.
-Several areas simply look empty as if there is untapped potential for their space.
-The Cloud car, though well designed, is completely the wrong color.
-Though there are many locations, I don't see any of the play features you expect from a playset.

Unrealistic Expectations:
-Wilrow Good
-Chewie carrying C-3PO

The price, however, I am at a loss to explain.

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By in Belgium,

I only like the slave I, midi-scale is cool, too bad Lego didn't made more of those: https://brickset.com/sets/tag-Midiscale

The whole set is a pass for me, don't like it at all

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By in Austria,

phu.. men.. thats so ugly..
this is maby a small set for kids, for like 60 bugs, but not an ucs set :/

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By in Australia,

now to mod it to have coverings on it.. cant wait.

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By in United Kingdom,

If everyone else hates it so much at least I won't have to worry about stock levels when I place my order on the first day of VIP release...

I feel for the graphic designer as the scale of the set leaves it caught between "should we try and fit it all in on the box" and "shall we show it from a more dynamic angle" - perhaps it would've looked quite better if they shopped it into a visual of the shape of Cloud City itself - like the set is a puzzle piece fitting into the top of the disc shape?

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By in Sweden,

I think this looks great, reminds a lot of the 2008/16 Death Star, did all the AFOLs hate that as well?

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By in Norway,

I had no plans to buy this (haven't really bought a SW set since 75011 Tantive 4 & Alderaan in 2013), so I don't have very strong opinions about it but I can agree to many of the gripes, the individual scenes looks very nice but the overall shape of the model is pretty bleh. I particularly dislike how the large cutouts for the landing pad and freezing chamber has reduced the structure to a bowtie shape not at all resembling Cloud City (the freezing chamber and sensor bridge should've been more centrally placed and the landing pad moved to the outside), and definitely agree that it would have benefited from a vertical layout with the posh rooms on the top and the industrial facilities below.

I think the problem with the box art is how neither light nor perspective matches between model and background (two pretty basic photoshop newbie mistakes) - the background is nearly horizontal and lit from the left, while the model is seen from a much steeper angle and large parts are lit from the above-right.

My favorite part is the almost-midiscale Slave 1, if Lego made more separate sets like this (smaller than the usual playsets but still large enough to fit minifigs) I might actually get tempted to buy them.

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By in United States,

Whew... Money saved

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By in United States,

Ok so this set is very interesting and a bold move by LEGO. I’m just surprised initial reactions have been very negative. I get the pricing negativitity but realistically this is what I would want from a LEGO Cloud City. It’s essentially a bigger version of the highly sought after 10123 Cloud City. So after looking at that I just can’t understand what most people were expecting. The mini Slave 1 is very cool, as I got to build the original for my aunt's eBay store, and this reminds me a lot of it. This was never going to be a set that accommodates the larger UCS sets as that would just be absolutely rediculous of LEGO to say, "Here you go, a big empty space so you can use your enormous UCS Slave 1 here." That, my friends, is a cash-grab. Instead they’re like "Since you’re already spending so much on this awesome PLAYSET, here’s a handy-dandy Slave 1 so that way you don’t have to spend the big bucks, as well as a not too shabby Cloud Car" LEGO knows that people might only be able to afford at least one large set, if that. Just look at NINJAGO City and NINJAGO City Docks. They took the time to make both look amazing so that way people aren’t forced to buy both. And they took the time and effort to accommodate someone who did have it, because they had a large budget for the set. Remember that LEGO's target audience is for children so that way they can play with their toys happily ever after. By not labelling this as a UCS set like they did with the decent Assault on Hoth, they’re trying to explain to people that hey this is not a proper "display model".

Just my thoughts about this and the unrealistic negativity.

Also, one last thing. If you were the graphic designer of the box at Lego, how would you have done it? I’ve looked at it over and over and yea at first it looked off, but then I got to thinking how would I have done it, and there really isn’t a better option of doing it that makes it look like it’s still on Bespin. Please people just be respectful of the people who took the time to make this set to be sold on the market, built by all ages, young and old alike, as well as experienced and inexperienced. If this set is not for you, fine by me and go on your merry way but don’t hate on LEGO or anyone for that matter because it’s a toy; meant for children. I am really dedicated to getting more LEGO as a teenager but I will always know and understand the design limitations and that it’s for kids ultimately.

Also, the 10123 Cloud City set doesn’t look much better than this, but it’s highly sought after still and goes for a whopping $800 on eBay with the box and instructions. That being said, would you rather pay for this for $350 with 2800 pieces or $800 for a set with only 700 pieces

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By in Netherlands,

I bought 10123 Cloud City when it came out: and man that makes me feel old. I still have it, built up, somewhere in deep storage. A nice set for its time. But man, is this set ever an improvement! I really do like it a lot, and to be honest, this is about what I was expecting from an improved Cloud City. It looks like they went with their Death Star concept again: make the total shape in the likeness of the location, and fill it with the featured rooms and spaces that we see in the movie. In this case, Cloud City really is a (floating) saucer shape that doesn't lend itself to much layering, when you think about it. I guess a 'top half of the death Star' approach would have worked out somewhat better, with two separate levels and a slightly smaller footprint, without compromising the idea. But I am satisfied with this set, contrary to the Assault on Hoth set which is one of the first OT sets I had to pass on, bringing nothing to the board except for some power generators and a couple of unique minifigs.

With this set, I could have done without the mini Slave I, and I would have preferred a dark orange Cloud Car, but for the rest, I like what I'm seeing.

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By in United States,

There are several flaws, but this nonetheless feels pretty in line with the kind of Cloud City set people were asking for 3-4 years ago; the goal posts must've shifted when rumors swirled and people thought it was a realistic possibility. I certainly can't blame some of the criticism it's receiving but it certainly feels like fans are largely receiving what they asked for.

I think the biggest real issue is the 'bowtie' shape. LEGO should've committed to each 'quarter' base being relatively symmetrical, like in the Death Star -- making the launching pad fit the shape of the base would be less attractive for the individual piece of the set, but would probably enhance the overall set's appearance, and expanding the Carbon Freezing Chamber area I'm sure would have been welcome as well. Perhaps add the Ugnaught assembly line room where Chewie rescues C-3PO before the droid is brought to his cell? Could be a great place to throw in some loose droid elements and an extra ugnaught minifig, and that's where IG-88 actually shows up on CC.

The desire for a modular deal isn't going to happen, no matter how much fans keep asking, but I do think LEGO could have perhaps spun out a superior Cloud Car set completely separate from the larger City, and carved out Luke and Vader's duel, almost a vignette, as a $20-30 set that could slot into this one somewhere via technic connection. These pieces could both sell fine on their own, and allow the space taken here to be used otherwise, although I will admit they would reduce the comprehensive nature of the full Cloud City which is a key selling point for it. It would also remove two of the pieces fans are most dissatisfied with, and the smaller launch pad.

Although I personally love the midi-scale Slave I and would buy it solo or bricklink it, as I found the two most recent editions a little too cost-prohibitive for myself. I've never been terribly interested in Cloud City as a location based on its screen depiction, and that piece would be worth it for me, as would the long-awaited Lando update and Bespin Luke.

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By in United States,

I'd've rather they cut out the carbonite freezing scene and the Slave I and use the parts to expand more on the actual build. One of he coolest parts of the original Cloud City was that you could take the separate Slave I ship and place it on the landing pad, having a UCS set that you could plug another UCS and a regular set into would be great!

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By in United States,

What the heck is a star war? Is that one of your comic books that walt disney created in the 1970s?

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By in United States,

Okay, on the one hand:

I *love* this set. It's beautiful, plenty of play features, and the mini slave one is fantastic.

On the other hand:

It's $350.

No child has the money to buy that, and parents willing to spend that much on a gift are few and far between. Take the route of the original Hogwarts sets and have each section released as a separate small set. You'll get more buyers and more sales that way, and the customers will be happier. Then, if you *really need* to have a $350 set, make a giant *display* set.

Also, what is with everyone being all "it has open studs on it and so isn't good enough"? Studs are beautiful, people.

Just my two cents.

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By in Germany,

Remember when that "I am Your Father" Ideas set was nixed and we all tried to read the lips of the guy who announced the results because he referred to a potential conflict with an upcoming set which was bleeped? Well, at the time I was absolutely sure he said "Bespin". It is only now that I realise it was really "Cash grab"! Check it out. it's so obvious now, just plain as day!

Seriously though, Lego, you've got to get a grip on those prices. It's getting ridiculous.

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By in United States,

You all just don't get it - LEGO is meant and priced for the 1%

1% of 7 billion = 70 million, and figure 3 people per household on average gives us 23.4 million households/individuals capable of affording LEGO pricing without balking. If just 5% of those are interested purchasers, that's still 1.17 million buyers.

And we all know the rich keep getting richer ... TLG just want some of that action.

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