Preview: 75222 Betrayal at Cloud City

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Following months of rumours and speculation about a new set based upon Cloud City, 75222 Betrayal at Cloud City has finally been revealed today! This 2812-piece set seems to be dividing opinion which is not entirely surprising as there has been tremendous anticipation building for a model like this one.

I have certainly been looking forward to seeing 75222 Betrayal at Cloud City and am impressed with the official images on the whole, although there are a few areas in which I think the set could be improved. Take a look at the official images and read Brickset's initial analysis after the break...


This set shares numerous aspects of its design with 10188 Death Star and 75159 Death Star, combining several different scenes from Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back in a single model, the external shape of which loosely resembles Cloud City in the movie. The absence of a detailed exterior may disappoint some people, although that may restrict the space inside so I think an open design was probably the most practical alternative.

Almost every scene based around Cloud City is included, ranging from the brightly-furnished dining room to the sombre interrogation chamber. They are connected by a series of doors and passageways so minifigures can travel between the different rooms, just as they do in the movie. The layout of the model seems logical, beginning with a landing pad which is connected to the dining room, an apartment and the chamber in which C-3PO encounters a squad of Stormtroopers.

Each room is intricately furnished with details from the film. I am particularly impressed by the light fixture on the wall in the dining room and the miniature rendition of Cloud City is lovely, despite not appearing in the original movie. In addition, the circular windows look perfect in relation to the onscreen location but I am not sure what the balcony outside is intended to represent. Perhaps this relates to the neighbouring carbon-freezing chamber.

Speaking of which, the carbon-freezing chamber looks fantastic in my opinion. Its shape matches the movie very closely and I am pleased to see another carbon-freezing function included, not unlike that from 2003's 10123 Cloud City! I am disappointed that the Technic elements beneath the floor have not been concealed, although exposed Technic liftarms do not feel wholly out of place in such an industrial environment.

The climactic duel between Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader on Cloud City is among the most pivotal scenes in the entire Star Wars saga. Unfortunately, it occupies a relatively small section of this set. The atmospheric sensor balcony, on which the duel comes to an end, is impressively detailed but I think the control room, where Darth Vader hurls objects at Luke using the Force, could have been expanded.

The next quadrant includes the interrogation chamber, a prison cell and a landing zone for the Cloud Car. I am not convinced that the latter feature was necessary but this area could also be used for the duel between Darth Vader and Luke. The interrogation chamber is only shown clearly on the back of the box but looks great, including a rotating torture device and room to stand some supervising Imperial personnel.

A circular landing platform occupies the final section of this model. It looks fairly plain but matches the source material and I like this rendition of the Slave I, despite its small size which reminds me of 7144 Slave I. The colour scheme looks brilliant and I am impressed with the shape of the dark red engine cowling. Of course, 75060 Slave I remains the definitive model of Boba Fett's famous vehicle but this version is far more suitable for play.

75222 Betrayal at Cloud City also comes with a Twin-Pod Cloud Car which is designed at a realistic minifigure scale. The shape of the bodywork looks good but I believe dark orange would have been a more appropriate colour than dark red. Admittedly, the craft does appear red in certain material but dark orange has been used consistently in recent years and looks far more interesting to me.

Eighteen minifigures are included, along with R2-D2, an IG-88 assassin droid and Han Solo frozen in Carbonite. The selection is reasonably comprehensive and I am pleased to see that multiple versions of Han Solo and Princess Leia are included, especially since the smuggler is the first Star Wars figure to feature dual-moulded legs! Unfortunately, neither Leia minifigure sports the jumpsuit that she wears during her escape from Cloud City in the film.

Moreover, Leia's hair piece requires improvement and the Han Solo in Carbonite element has not been updated to reflect the character's new hair style. A new backpack containing C-3PO might also have been included for Chewbacca. Otherwise, I am very satisfied with this minifigure selection. Lando Calrissian stands out in particular and the Cloud Car pilots make clever use of an existing helmet which looks great. The only obvious absentee is everyone's favourite background character, Willrow Hood!


Overall

I am quite impressed with the official images of this set and am looking forward to actually building it next month. The interior detail is marvellous and I think the individual rooms have been arranged in a sensible manner, loosely replicating the order of each scene in The Empire Strikes Back and allowing minifigures to travel between them.

https://images.brickset.com/sets/AdditionalImages/75222-1/75222_Box3_v39.jpg

However, I also understand the criticism which has been levelled at 75222 Betrayal at Cloud City. The model appears unsuitable for display which is disappointing and its colour scheme seems rather muddled in certain areas, although the individual rooms look fantastic when compared with the source material. Despite these issues, I remain optimistic about the set and am excited to add it to my Star Wars collection!

Are you looking forward to 75222 Betrayal at Cloud City or do you think there is room for improvement? Let us know in the comments.

116 comments on this article

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By in United States,

Looks unfinished, box art looks horrible, minifigs can't even save this.

I am not satisfied nor happy! A real shame.

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By in United States,

Looks like the Betrayal part is real as most thought that an enclosed Cloud City was what was coming to us.
Edit: that miniature Cloud City does looks adorable.

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By in United States,

Long-time brickset reader. First time brickset comment-er. Had to create an account to say:
The amount of griping and complaining by Star Wars "fans" is seriously impressive. Even by pre-school standards. If you don't like it, you do realize there is no law requiring you to buy it, right? If someone wants to pick up 2,812 elements, create a better rendition of Cloud City, and THEN say, "See what more could have been done!" that would make a lot of sense. But--if you haven't done that--then your whining is just 3-year-old babble.

Nice job, Lego developers and engineers! Some really amazing concepts and building techniques going on in that set. If I had 1,000 years and 2,812 elements, I could not have done better. And I'm happy to admit it. Don't listen to the 3-year-olds; it's their nap time.

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By in United Kingdom,

Display value is everything when it comes to that price range!

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By in South Korea,

Actually what is the set name Betrayal at Cloud City is what I've been betrayed by this set itself. It could be better with the seperate the sections with multiple sets in my opinion.

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By in United States,

I think it's a pretty interesting set. The box art is kind of weird, but the set itself is neat. I especially like that Midi-Scale Slave I.

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By in United Kingdom,

All this negativity is frustrating. There's no betrayal here. LEGO didn't promise anyone anything. You don't have to buy this. Some Star Wars fans aren't helping with their reputation for being petulant and entitled.

I personally think this looks like a fantastic playset, and I think kids especially are going to enjoy acting out scenes from the movie. There's lots of impressive detail, and the minifigure selection is great.

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By in United States,

Really bad box art but the set look cool. The mini Slave 1 is hilarious.

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By in United Kingdom,

Not a LEGO Star Wars collector but I am a Star Wars fan. A lot of bad opinions seem to be given about this set - I do have to wonder exactly what were you expecting of a LEGO set depicting Cloud City? The only alternative I can think of would be a very small scale Architecture-like set. I think they did a pretty good job designing this, it looks great especially in terms of playability.

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By in United Kingdom,

Feeling the odd one out here but I love it! Each room is so close to the film I can forgive all else. Can’t wait to build it.

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By in Norway,

I have wanted a Death Star style Cloud City since buying 10188 back in 2010. I loved how the Death Star captured the shape of the exterior structure from the films, while also providing all the interior seen in episodes IV and VI, ingeniously connected by the central elevator, doorways and hatches. Constructing Cloud City in a similar way, would have been great, but probably not possible, on account of gravity. I'm fine with it «hovering» a mere couple of studs above the surface, and I've always wanted it to be a «playset» like the Death Star, which I think is great for display, but what kills this set for me is the floorplan. It's hard to do landing platforms (that pesky gravity again), and I think the tan one is reasonable, but leaving a big space that should have been devoted to the duel between Luke and Vader, one of the most iconic scenes in film history, to be used as a parking space for the cloud car, that is this set's biggest sin, particularly as it compromises the carbon chamber as well. Had there been a floor under the carbon chamber, and the cloud car parking lot been used for the rooms where Luke fights Vader, I would have been ready to forgive the crampedness of the rest of the rooms, but as it is, I'm not a fan.

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By in United States,

Yeah, I'm sure because it's Star Wars it'll sell like hotcakes, but frankly I find this set underwhelming. A series of modular sets that could be connected together would have much more appropriately captured the essence of Cloud City and be easier and more attractive to display. Definitely one to pass on, especially at that price point.

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By in United Kingdom,

Don't know if/ when I'll pick it up, but I don't hate it!
Only concerns I do have are, as you noted, the torture chamber/ prison isn't visible in any images. Is this because they couldn't get a good angle/ photo for it? If so, what does that say for the playability of that section?
(Since starting this comment, I've noticed there is actually one picture on the back of the box depicting the interrogation scene, so I guess the image IS out there, but still not much to go off, especially when that one picture doesn't appear to be available for viewing separately anywhere else. Still concerned about the playability all in all).
I'm also concerned about another angle they haven't shown off. The landing pad from the outside. My concern there being the dark red corridor just apparently opening up into nothingness. Just apparently an exposed outside corridor section that's right next to the landing pad?

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By in Poland,

Boba Fett looks absolutely hilarious in that Slave I...

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By in United States,

The "diaper suit" (as Carrie Fisher put it) that Leia wears in the carbon freezing chamber and while escaping Cloud City is considered close enough to the Hoth jumpsuit that the latter can stand in for it. The lack of a new hairpiece is the only real miss.

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By in United States,

Love it!! I think TLG designers did a great job here. Admittedly, the same points Rex brought up came into my mind (especially wanting the control room to be more developed for the Luke/Vader duel) but these are relatively small knocks against the set.

It looks fantastic and I can't wait to buy it. Who says you can't display it? I have a perfect spot and plenty of room next to my UCS Falcon for this bad boy.

All you whiners and complainers can wallow in your negativity and sadness. Won't spoil my excitement for this set!

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By in United States,

Can you explain how it "appears unsuitable for display"? I don't understand.

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By in United Kingdom,

I love the figures and the majority of the set such as the whole main build and the Bespin Pod but the Slave 1 i don’t really like and the box art looks like a custom one made on photoshop but that’s all. Oh and the £300 price is a bit pricy for over 2800 parts.

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By in United States,

@asgill25: there is a betrayal here actually. I mean, the set is called Betrayal At Cloud City. XD

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By in United States,

Neat, but no way I can afford this. Don't care much for how the Cloud Car is rendered, anyway. Maybe they'll release a better Cloud Car as a set later with a couple of pilots. I hope they do a Battle Pack of some kind later, too, so that there's an affordable way to get Lando, Lobot, and a couple of Bespin guards.

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By in United States,

I really do love this set, I just don’t have the money nor space for it (as with most UCS style sets besides BB-8 and the upcoming Porg).

That said, the name Betrayal OF Cloud City makes me chuckle almost as much as “Insult on Hoth” does... but at least that one is warranted.

Listen, people, they made a new label just for this. It’s a big playset - that’s all. And it’s still super detailed. They could have even called it UCS and I wouldn’t have cared; after all, the Death Star is, and people still love that set. But you don’t have to buy it...

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By in Belgium,

I hate it this is not a UCS set

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By in United Kingdom,

Personally I love this set! I always prefer minifig scale sets that I can play with and put figures in rather than just build and display them , that being a reason why Ewok Village is my only UCS Set ! I cannot wait to get it!

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By in Portugal,

Sorry LEGO, but this looks terrible! Box art awful, the figures are a quite "boring", and the all set looks unfinished..

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By in United States,

@Surf1975, you’re right, it’s technically not. ;-)

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By in Ireland,

My concern isn't really with the model itself. It does look like a really fun and detailed playset for kids, --- the problem is the question of how many kids will be able to afford it. At that price, it's more than many would be willing/able to spend on a single toy for their kids.

It's fully okay that LEGO made a playset rather than a display model, but if they intended to do so, I feel like the size of the build should possibly have been brought down. As it is, it seems that many kids who would really enjoy this set might not be able to get it --- while adult fans, who have the income to spend more money on things for themselves, might not want it because of how it is targeted more toward play.

It's an awkward situation where I worry that the target audience for this will be limited, just as happened with Assault on Hoth. That was also probably a really fun playset for kids, if they were fortunate enough to afford it --- but because of its huge size and price, most of the consumers who would be buying it (adults) weren't attracted to it.

I agree that LEGO is first and foremost a toy for children and they must be the priority; but knowing that the price range is more in adult fan territory, I don't think it's surprising that the response to this has been divisive. I personally feel like LEGO need to take design cues from previous large sets like Ninjago City or the Ewok Village --- where there was both playability for the children who could afford it, and displayability for adult fans who it would be more available to.

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By in United States,

Overall I am pleased. They hit all the main Bespin scenes and all the main characters in minifig form.

I will probably end up buying it, after waiting all these years, but I can't help but feel it could have been better.

Things I would tweak to make me love it:
1) dark orange twin pod cloud car
2) update Han Solo in carbonite detailing
3) eliminate Slave I (we all probably have at least one already) and landing pad, and then
4) have a bigger light saber duel in it's place, and
5) expand the carbon freezing chamber

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By in Malaysia,

I first saw this four months ago, and posted in forums then that it was a DS-style playset. I don't know why people are moaning about it not being a display set, because it's fairly obvious that it was never going to be. The days of sets like Death Star 2 are long gone. For a playset, I think it's pretty decent, and certainly a lot better than Hoth.

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By in United States,

A $350 kid-focused set? Bold move, Lego, let's see if it pays off. The Ewok village worked from a design standpoint, but this set pretty much foregoes aesthetics entirely in order to maximize play value. Will kids be able to build an external structure around it?

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By in United States,

@J0rgen I think these comments are spot on. Luke's duel with Vader IS Star Wars as far as I am concerned, and here it only occupies a tiny portion of the model with the "floating" carbon freeze chamber behind it. It looks weird, especially next to the VERY open and empty Cloud Car landing platform.

Basically I feel they could have omitted the Cloud Car (dark red?) entirely and added to some of the interior detail. The Slave 1 looks good and a landing pad is pretty crucial to Cloud City, but as it stands a lot of this set just looks kind of EMPTY given the large space provided.

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By in United Kingdom,

I think as a playset is works well, as a display piece it's chaotic and rather cluttered and clunky. But if they were aiming for a playset, is there really going to be that many parents/grandparents who would buy this for that price tag?

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By in Croatia,

I ussualy dont buy sets from original triology cuz I dont like it but this set is one of best -atleast for me-this year.But I wont going to buy because in my country it is going to be like 20-30 dollars expensier

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By in United States,

First off, this should have been $50 cheaper, but we all know the license commands top dollar. Then I think back to when I plunked down the same amount for the Ewok Village, that is far superior for playability and display.

I think this should have been released as a series of modular playsets that you could arrange like this finished set, if you chose. Give us bigger and more detailed dining room, landing platform, test chamber, and the like; sell them for $49 USD. Sell an accessory pack for $39; The completionists would buy them all, others could buy the 'rooms' they were interested in.

I collect anything related to Lando, so I'll buy this one eventually, but it's gonna hurt more than other sets for the same price.

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By in Iceland,

As a big fan of 10188, I quite like this, but 71043 has just taken up all available space in our house, so this is looking like a pass. It doesn't quite match the high standard the Death Star set for its time to me, anyway.

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By in United States,

@CapnRex101: Thanks for raising my spirits again with this article. When I initially saw this set, I was very pleased with the outcome of this product. However, when reading the article of the unveiling of this set, I was surprised by the high amounts of criticism of the set. While I can understand some of it, I can sometimes struggle with other aspects of criticism. I just think a lot of people are becoming more disillusioned with the movies and even the sets nowadays.

Anyways, even though I really do like the set, I will not be getting it, simply because it does not fit into my budget, nor will fit onto any shelf I currently have and as I've said many other times, I have other priorities for sets that I want more than this. I may try to bricklink some figures, but those will be pretty expensive i my eyes. Anyways, thanks for understanding me, even if my opinions are far different from yours.

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By in United States,

While I agree that too much negativity can get annoying, What's the point of a comments page if only positive things can be said? I scroll through the comments to see what Lego fans generally think about the set—not what others want them to think. Some say, "if you don't like the set then don't buy it." I say, "if you don't like the comment then don't pay attention to it."

Having said that, I don't think the set is that bad. It seems just as good as the Death Stars. Although, I think that there are rooms where detail is lacking. Overall though, it's a nice set.

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By in United Kingdom,

We are complaining because of the opportunity cost. This playset has taken the place of what could have been a "display piece".
So the phrase "you don't have to buy it" is just annoying.

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By in United States,

It's not perfect, but I'm still very excited about this. Long overdue revised portrayal of some of the most pivotal scenes of the Saga.

Love the Luke and Lando updates.

Was hoping for a Chewie w/C3PO option as well as Leia's outfit (and hair) during the carbon chamber & subsequent escape.

The mini Slave I is brilliant.

Been saving the VIP points for this one. Salvaging what has been a garbage Star Wars year so far for sets over $29.99 USD.

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By in United States,

.....Yeesh, this set has “got some city miles on it” as we say haha. It is certainly not attractive, anyone saying otherwise it’s sort of fooling themselves. It’s a wonderful little playset however. That being said, I sense more confusion on LEGO’s part as to who this is marketed towards; I don’t know any little kids who get $350 Lego play sets, it’s us big kids that like display pieces who pay that kind of cash.
I feel like I could recreate some of the nicer looking rooms with spare parts.

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By in United Kingdom,

With so many versions of Slave 1 it is disappointing the designers would waste bricks depicting it here.
They could have used the 200 bricks for something else.
They also missed a trick by wasting bricks on including a carbon freezing chamber, instead of leaving a space to incorporate the recent #75137 https://brickset.com/sets/75137-1/Carbon-Freezing-Chamber into the model.

So 400 bricks that could have been excluded to save £40 from the price of the set or include something else.
A central corridor area like this model http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww308/starwarsmicromachines/IMG_5540.jpg
or
An expanded number of Imperial troopers?
or
A larger banquet room and table?

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By in Germany,

I don't know if this is 250€ or 300€ but for all the people who say this isn't a kids toy cause it's so expensive and that's why it's clearly aimed at adults: you guys have no idea what parents are willing to spend for toys. Just look what a Switch or PS4 sets you back, and that is considered a usual birthday present, for some even an Easter present where I come from.

Back to the set itself - I really like it, love the Slave I and might consider exchanging my still sealed UCS one against this. If it only had an orange Cloud Car.. But as others say, I also find it difficult to find a place where to display it, since it's big and flat and looks best from the top, not the sides.

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By in Russian Federation,

what those who dont like it what were you expecting? I see a well done set , actually much better of any star wars set released in like 2+ years . Scenes captured, looking good, only "im your father" scene here is priseless. You wanted huge 8000+ pieces set for 800$ or im sorry micro crap scale pointless hogwarts like set . I read most of the comments here and i dont any suggestions or facts that they dont like. Price? Ofcourse and again you expected something else lol

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By in France,

Well as usual the haters are out but at least it is civil this time!!!

Looking forward to the build review Cap’n as I’m interested to hear if it really is for master builders technically speaking

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By in Germany,

The one thing that seems worth pointing out here is that this set is one of the most expensive play sets Lego has ever made.

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By in Canada,

Do the cloud cars only hold the heads of the minifigures? It kind of looks that way based off the hatch and the way it looks in one of the pictures on the set page....

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By in United States,

I won't be getting this one. I think they should have made a large gray shell display model and then take of quadrants to play with all these inner chambers. I usually get all the UCS sets (since the first UCS X-Wing). But i will skip this one (like i skipped the large play set Death Stars) No worries, plenty of other AFOL goodies out there these days like Harry Potter and roller coasters!

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By in United States,

I like it.

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By in Canada,

Personally I prefer minifig scale to "display pieces". Sure, I use mine for display as well, but I still have a playset mentality. That's why I felt betrayed by the microscale Hogwarts.

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By in Italy,

The small Slave I despite being quite out of scale for a minifigure still looks brilliant imo, kinda makes me wish it was released separately, I definitely would've bought it.

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By in Belgium,

I like it, think it holds great play value!

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By in United Kingdom,

Ya gotta laugh, for ages this set has probably been wish-listed more than any other set (except for the Hoth set before it) and now it's released, with a bit of everything that's relevant to the film, it's being slated.

Is it perfect, no. Is it expensive, yes. But it's not a bad set. It's got updated minifigures of all the main players that it needs. It covers almost all of the films main scenes and the majority of it is instantly recognisable for what it's supposed to be.

If this had been released with more detail, more rooms and on a larger scale but at a larger cost, it still wouldn't have been right.

I like it enough to add it to my wants list and will definitely be picking this one up at some point. I'm just prepared to wait until I can get it for a price I'm happy with but that's no different to anything else, Lego or otherwise I buy.

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By in Netherlands,

@Venunder I like the MicroMachines photo you posted there as an example. This is very similar to what I hoped the Cloud city set would look like: Smaller diameter, central hub area, 2 tiers, on some kind of low support column to lift it up a bit.

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By in United Kingdom,

I never really got the hype about a cloud city set. But I think lego has done as good as they could for a set like this.

I actually would love lego to do more detailed modular sets, like the carbon freeze chamber to connect with other sets. Like the hoth medical chamber, if they did a hoth operations room to go with it. Good 30 quid sets to connect into something truly good.

But anyway, what were those so hyped about this set expecting?

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By in Jordan,

This preview has only served to increase my admiration for this set. Each of the sections look fantastic, as do the mini Slave I and Cloud Car. Sure, it doesnt look super displayable, but I don't think it needs to any more than the Death Star does.

Congratulations to the designer/s who worked on this!

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By in United States,

I am a kid at heart and do think this is a great set and just want to know the price I know it will be pretty high I didn’t see a lobot though and would love C3-PO strapped to Chewbacca. Never mind about the lobot I am bad at finding stuff.

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By in United States,

Personally I am happy about this. Just like Assault on Hoth there is really no way to make everyone happy with a set that has been anticipated as much as this. Especially when you consider they have to make it at a price point where enough people will buy it to justify putting it on the market.

Do I think it could be better? Absolutely! Do I like it and intend to buy? Absolutely! :)

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By in United States,

Oh, and at least it is not micro/nanofigure scale!!!

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By in United Kingdom,

I notice Boba has arm printing. First time since the UCS version isn't it?

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By in United States,

Were people really expecting a $300+ display model? Maybe it's just me, but that model would be boring as hell. Give me a set with detail like this any day of the week.

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By in United States,

I am 11. I love this set. It's perfect for my base because I need a playset like with room, the death star type manner is something I've wanted since I was 8. That said, I don't quite like the cloud car landing spot but.. it's not decorated just fill it in! Also I do appreciate it's inner designs , as I am teased for appreciating beauty in Lego sets, this one isn't bad beauty wise

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By in United Kingdom,

They should have included the microfighter Millenium Falcon on the landing platform!

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By in United States,

@James_Arkham
Lego has been releasing playsets for years.
-Death Star
-Ewok Villiage
-Assault on Hoth
I don't understand how this was surprising to anyone. Lego makes both play and display sets. Cloud City would be poorly suited for a display model anyway. It would end up as a bunch of grey panels like the Death Star II. Not terribly interesting.

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By in United Kingdom,

Love it! Will defo get it as love dioramas!

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By in Germany,

6/10, will buy begrudgingly.

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By in Canada,

This set is ugly as s**t, mainly because of the non-spherical shape. I would've preferred separate sets that connect together, or have it resemble something like the Bespin dome. They should stop making UCS playsets, please.

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By in United States,

We all have our checklists of what we'd want to see in a CC set, and there is no way LEGO or any toy company can fulfill every fans expectations. However, as I said before the key scenes are there, and they are detailed and imo look good. The characters who should be present are all there, including some awesome updates - again Leia's dress (w/printing on back that looks great too), Bespin Luke, Bespin Lando (again his cape is awesome!), and the Cloud Car Pilots (I'm glad they included two - it wouldn've have seemed right to plunk Lobot down to fill the vacant seat). My checklist would not have included another Slave I; when you've got the UCS nothing else will compare :) Will I have to get this set? Yes, at some point I will as it's really the only key OT scene I'm missing from my collection, including these versions of key characters. Although, as others have said I will wait until the price is what I feel a good value to be. Until that sale comes though there are tons of Wanted List sets to lust after. Forever a broke LEGO fan :)

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By in United Kingdom,

The negativity around this set is seriously impressive. What was everyone actually expecting? Lego has literally created a cloud city set with all of the scenes from cloud city in it. What more could you want? It's not like Assault on Hoth where the set didn't even match its own name.

I'm personally very impressed at how much has been crammed into this set, and I look forward to getting a hold of it.

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By in Canada,

The set looks fantastic but I have nowhere to put it any suggestions

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By in United Kingdom,

Very excited by this set as is my son. Fantastic.

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By in United States,

I will pass. I am close to selling my UCS collection as remakes and play sets are boring me. Please offer us a new UCS LEGO!

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By in Australia,

It’s Cloud City. It was never going to be impressive no matter what Lego did with it. Lucky I don’t collect Star Wars playsets. I’m just more disgusted at the price.

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By in United States,

I've been waiting for a new Cloud City set for years and I'm thrilled that it's finally happening. I would have preferred CC rendered as modular sets that attach, but unlike so many others, I am not in the mood to complain. :)

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By in United States,

@lego4elio Exactly what I wanted someone to say. I was startled by the negativity, but opinions are certainly the reason comments sections exist. I'd also say this one is as good as the 2016 Death Star.

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By in United States,

Hard to tell from the pictures, but is it built on a solid base so one can put it on a lazy-susan to allow you to easily spin it around (like the Death Star) or is it just meant to sit fixed on a table top?

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By in Canada,

More like Betrayal At Billund...

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By in United States,

Definitely getting those new Luke, Leia and Lando figures the first chance I get.

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By in Sweden,

The carbon-freezing chamber looks sooooooo much better than the 2016 set! Just a shame the frozen Han hasn't been updated to match his new hair piece.

That is one of very few complaints I have about this though (the main one being the price), I've always loved Cloud City and at last we'll get an updated Lego version!

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By in United States,

Just saying, a fully enclosed Cloud City model would look awful and take up a ton of space. The location was already a bit too large and spread out to really make into a good Lego model, which is probably why there haven't been a lot of sets based on this location. The individual rooms look nice and detailed, and some designs remind me of the recreated scenes from the Lego Star Wars game. I think the design here has great play value to recreate tons of iconic scenes, and perhaps that's not aimed at the adult collectors. I personally have no desire to buy this, because I do not have the money or display space, but some of the figs do look worthwhile.

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By in United States,

Ew.

Someone design a good one so china can steal it so I can buy it.

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By in Canada,

This set will tank at retail just like AOH. I'd buy it for the build experience at 40% off. I find it quite ugly on the whole though.

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By in Canada,

I love it. I wanted a Cloud City set similar to the Ewok village and Death Star (chock full of awesome minifigs) and that is what Lego has created. Did people want a giant pile of bricks and plates all the same color like Death Star II? No thanks.

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By in United Kingdom,

I didn’t have any expectations but seeing this, it’s possible to see why there’s grounds for complaints on this. This supposedly being seen as a playset – yes while big – is very expensive value at £300 and it would have to be a very well off ‘bank of mum of dad’ job for children to get this. On the other hand, coming from collectors, there has been high expectation to remake Cloud City for a long time and seeing it as a playset rather than a display set will make many moan as it doesn’t seem to fit the Cloud City look of it being vertical rather than horizontal.

On the face of it, it does seem to be a bit of a jumbled mess but Lego have tried to incorporate so much in one set it just seems to be causing controversy like the Insult on Hoth (don’t get us started on that one). It’s great to see TLG designers have come up with this but personally it feels a bit of a mess and unfinished in certain areas especially some of the clash of colours with different rooms.

What would’ve been a good idea – for a marketing ploy – is re-create all the different rooms of Cloud City as single modular sets i.e. the four sections here as four sets, then retail them at a similar price and then an additional set for a main central frame to combine all the rooms together. By doing something like this, it would appeal to children to collect all the rooms (we all know how children just want to collect them all) and then fit them one by one, which also starves off all the collectors/AFOLs who sound off against this.

It’s hard to gauge what the targeting market on this is, as it's a big playset that’s very expensive for children on their own to buy in the current price range, but yet at the same time is not appealing to many collectors/AFOLs. Personally though, I would’ve liked to see Chewie carry C-3PO on his back, although that is my only unrealistic expectation but a realistic expectation is this: How is Luke Skywalker going to fall in the most iconic part of the film? It will be a very short fall…

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By in New Zealand,

since not UCS....hopefully we get one then, not that I don't fancy this.

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By in Australia,

People were ACTUALLY expecting a fully enclosed Cloud City? Really??? Huh, this is a funny fan base.The last model I can think of that was like that was 2005's Death Star II - a pretty boring and uninteresting model IMHO. Meanwhile, Lego keep producing playset after playset - Death Star, Ewok Village, Hoth, plus smaller sets like Scarriff, Naboo duel, Throne rooms etc. They must sell alright or they wouldn't make them. Hoth was a missed opportunity but Ewok Village was sweet.

Anyway, plenty of good mocs around and instructions online to download if you want to bricklink yourselves a highly detailed 'plate on a stick', which is all Cloud City really is at the end of the day. Meanwhile, I'll be over here enjoying a varied build and some excellent play opportunities with my kids, which is what Lego is really all about...

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By in United States,

It’s nice to get a cloud city and all but I see nothing that justifies this being $350

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By in United States,

I used to collect UCS sets for SW. I have not gotten many SW sets as of late and no UCS sets in well over 10 years. I do like this set and if I had a spare $350 lying around blowing a hole in my pocket I'd pick it up as this one of my favorite places in the SW universe. The price is egregious of course, but that is to be expected, just unfortunate. I'm really not sure what TLG could really do. Cloud City is huge with great depth. It seems like anything they would do, would disappoint the fans. They did a good job with this, but goes to show you can't please everyone. I like the Hogwarts castle and am actually thankful it is microscale because I don't by the microscale builds. It allows me to focus my funds on the regular HP sets, MOCs, city sets, and creator modulars. I do like what has been mentioned like HP sets where a series of smaller more affordable sets with better details are done that can all be connected together to form one larger set, but then again if they did that and you are concerned with displaying this one,imagine h ow hard that completed series would be to display! Kudos to TLG for a valiant effort and respectable product for its content.

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By in United States,

The picture of Luke hanging onto the antenna is all wrong...he has both hands. Just saying...

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By in United States,

I have a feeling we'll be seeing this discounted on May the Fourth 2019 or 2020. Just looks unfinished. I would have rather paid $600 for a large display set than a $350 unfinished hodge podge.

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By in Australia,

With the awful and disappointing Assault on Hoth Set, it wasn’t a stretch to relabel it to “Insult on Hoth”.
Betrayal at Cloud City, geez making it even easier with “Betrayal of Cloud City”.

It is quite rightly being criticised on a multitude of levels.
No. 1 it is incredibly expensive, expectations should be much higher at this price point.

No. 2 Insult on Hoth was quite rightly a heavily criticised set at a similar price point, besides removing the UCS label what lessons were learnt.

No. 3 What is the LEGO strategy with these unfinished play sets like Insult on Hoth or this one?

I will elaborate on this.

Why use valuable pieces for a mid scale Slave 1 instead of improving the structure itself.
Why not say release the major play set and within the next few months of that set advertise that you will related sets ie in this case like a mid scale Slave 1 that can expand the play.

We see that approach taken with other Lego lines why not in this case?

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By in United States,

Eh. Kind of expected a Death Star based design. As such my expectations were lowered. But this does look alright though. The smaller ships are definitely better than whatever the pitiful mini Tie Advanced was in the Death Star.

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By in United States,

My additional two cents, having already posted on Lego's official FB post - minifig selection is good, but a couple more stormtroopers would be better (can never have enough!). Love the midi-scale Slave-1, and that it and the new Cloud Car can actually take minifigs. Better designing by far than the original set (although I still don't quite knock it). Box art is questionable for sure. Price point is a little high, but not ridiculous - unlike the mini-figure Death Star "upgrade". As for displaying - as with the new UCS MF. I'm sure someone's already working on a hack for that....can't wait to get my hands on this one!

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By in Canada,

I really wish it was April Fool's Day...

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By in United States,

As others have stated the set looks unfinished. From the top it looks like they started with a bow tie design in opposite quadrants and did a great job with detailing the rooms and then had two quadrants left to shove whatever other scenes were left including the freezing chamber and balcony into the same section. I almost prefer the original where you had a defined outside and linear array of the room scenes. It makes more sense as a display set. I do appreciate the design concept allowing multiple people to sit around the set to play at the same time.
The sensor platform really should be its own defined space with a backdrop to convey the size of it much like the rope swing area in the Death Star set. I do like the figures and cloud car though.

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By in United Kingdom,

Christ Almighty, that price.

PASS!!!

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By in Austria,

Not something I'd display, and too expensive for a play set.

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By in France,

I'm always amazed that so many AFOL forget that Lego is a toy company. Yes there are some adult-focused sets but most sets are designed to play with, and God knows this one is perfect for it!
It has everything one can desire to recreate the whole movie (well the part happening in Cloud City of course) or to imagine more stories or ambushes. Remember when you were a kid (or look at yours if you have any) and imagine this set on the floor and the possibilities by moving around and play, it's fantastic!
There are indeed some flaws, like the pods colour mainly, but who cares when you play really?
And I do think adding a model Slave-I was a good idea : it's not because lots of versions already exists that you already own one, and the Cloud City without the Slave-I episode doesn't really makes senses. So it was a smart move in my opinion and I really like the rendition of the ship at that scale. If you're an adult and want a displayable accurate Slave-I there's a UCS for that.

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By in Belgium,

I love the Star Wars Lego sets depicting the original trilogy. As a whole, I kinda share CapnRex101’s assessment: individual rooms have great design ideas, but looking at the completed set, it’s kinda “Meh” to me. But I didn’t and still don’t know what to expect from a Lego set depicting Cloud City. Isn’t Cloud City too big of a concept to capture in 1 Lego set? Cloud City in Lego sounds like the gigantic diorama’s the serious Star Wars Lego builders present at Lego events for us fans to admire.

@Andygott: amazing how you seem to be triggered by somebody else’ opinion. The concepts behind holding a different view on things are “freedom” and “thinking for yourself”. Just like you stated yourself that there is no law into buying this set, there is no law in having to agree with everybody. The biggest risk you take at reading different opinions is that sometimes you learn something new. Even if all other opinions are negative, one can still be mature enough to decide for yourself how much other people’s problems with a set effects your own take on it. So I think the real baby is staring at you everytime you look in the mirror.

But if you like “groupthink” so much, may I suggest the wonderful book 1984 by George Orwell. Might wanna catch up on that. What I find frightning however is that your response of calling other fans babies because of their view gets over a hundred likes. Yikes.

I do however like your question that anybody is welcome to have a better idea: any links to Cloud City in Lego created by other builders would be welcome. Because I feel I’ll have to complete my collection of Original Trilogy Lego sets with some custom builds, especially for Cloud City.

Also, here’s hoping for the fans that want to buy this set in Belgium (and a few other European countries that Lego thinks only has filthy rich people living in it) will not have an even higher price than this because ... wow, that price: auw.

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By in United States,

I think it is great. The new non-UCS designation is warranted. Reading all the complaints is entertaining. When compared to the previous rendition this one is far better. Price per piece is less, we have more parts, more features, updated figures and a cloud car! The Slave 1 arguments are laughable too. Did people really expect a huge vehicle to out do a playset? Give me a break. I think if it were a $20 stand alone set it would sell very well. Maybe even at $30 dependent on figures and ppp.

This set will easily display in my Ikea glass topped coffee table with sliding drawer. I think the Falcon is too tall for that table.

I usually wait for some sale to purchase most of my sets. This one may get full price from me. At the end of the day it comes down to a toy making the purchaser happy, be it for an adult or child. If you don't like it, don't buy it. There will be another one in another 15 years or so.

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By in United States,

I think $350 for this set is ridiculous! Just because its being called a UCS doesn't justify the price tag. The Ghostbusters Firehouse set has almost twice the amount of pieces and is the same price!

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By in United States,

Not for me, but looks great for a playset!

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By in United Kingdom,

I like it but cannot afford.
I want Lego to do a series of smaller play sets in the style of 75137 Carbon Freezing Chamber, 75093 Death Star Final Duel, 75203 Hoth Medical Bay, etc. That would allow greater detail and accuracy while allowing people with less money to get specific scenes and figs. Wouldn't have to splurge on a £300 set full of things I don't want e.g. cloud car, landing pad, Bespin guards, pilots, etc. I blame all you rich AFOLS who are begging for 6000 piece monstrosities.

I think the Han Solo figure is one of the best figs ever but I doubt I will be able to get one unless Lego puts one in a smaller set (fingers crossed).

To all the complainers; what were you expecting? A scale model of Cloud City that is three feet tall and £500? This is basically the same as the Death Star. And why is the box art such a problem? I know it looks weird but the set is an awkward shape and don't we just throw the box away anyway?

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By in United Kingdom,

It looks like a really neat playset! If it was classed as UCS, i might have mpre to say about it, but its not so, for its role it works well.
Other than the box art (which does look really bad) my only complaint is that they didn't update the carbonite piece to feature the updated Han hair piece.
Either way, still very nice :)

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By in United States,

It'll be a little cramped in that slave one with Han and Boba on it.

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By in Canada,

That Slave I is going to give me nightmares.

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By in United States,

Eh, I wasn't going to get this one anyway, but I gotta side with the haters here a bit.

I mean, take away the minifigs and Fett's ship--leaving just the 'city' part of cloud city--and I'd probably be stumped for a bit as to what it was. When you look at the interior details, it becomes apparent, but Cloud City should look like itself from the outside, too.

I know a lot of commenters are saying 'it's a playset, not a display model'. Well, I don't see why it couldn't have been both.

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By in United Kingdom,

LEGO had a very difficult task ahead of them designing this set; they had to appease two of THE most ardent fan bases there are - Star Wars fans AND AFOLs - and you simply cannot please everyone.

As BOTH a Star Wars fan and AFOL, I feel this very successfully captures the characters, key scenes and - as a bonus - vehicles, in intricate and delightful detail, whilst displaying a vast amount play features.

It’s a far more rounded play-set overall that far surpasses the look and features of 10123 Cloud City. It’s more akin to 75159 Death Star - and like this I don’t think the depth of features nor nothing short of an insane price point could have been maintained by allowing it all to be covered up. Honestly, with all that detailing I wouldn’t have wanted it to be.

BUT as both of the above, I also feel it’s not quite perfect. I’d much rather a whole circle/section of floor space was created with features built on top and elements extending from the sides - such as the gantry where Luke and Vader’s iconic confrontation takes place... but that’s just personal taste.

I think we should give credit to the time, effort and thought that has gone into this. It may not be the Cloud City that everyone wanted - an insurmountable task - but it’s a really damn fine rendition of it.

Price point is another thing all together - you really can’t please anyone on this, never mind everyone! It is what it is though, and if you’re looking to drop a lot of cash on a set this is just one of many options amongst a gamut of vey nice alternatives currently available.

For me its this or 71043 Hogwarts Castle, and I know which one my family will appreciate more ;)

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By in United States,

I like it...they did a good job with what material they had to follow. Making it enclosed would have been a mistake IMHO. Smart minifigure choices and the inclusion of two ships (albeit smaller than they would/should be) is a nice addition. Far out of my budget for sure but a neat set nonetheless.

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By in Germany,

All in all I like the set and don't understand why it should be a bad display piece. The abstractness doesnt't really bother me here. They even made a corridor that leads to most of the rooms. Also, we haven't seen the set from a lower angle yet.

However, from the one picture it appears that the Cloud Car has only space for the heads of the pilots. I hope I'm wrong, but I think there is a pin protruding in the cabin and there don't seem to be any hinges to open the cockpits in order to put an entire fig in.

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By in Sweden,

@Sebastian: The press release says "Twin-Pod Cloud Car with opening minifigure cockpits". You may see a hinge towards the bottom of the outer sides on the images.

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By in United States,

To all of you saying it's too expensive and it should be several smaller sets that can combine into one larger set - what's the difference? You're going to spend the same amount eventually. This set is going to be available for a while, so start saving now.

To all of you puzzled by the gantry and lack of a lower level - the gantry can swing out from the set, so put the entire set on a table edge and swing the gantry out over the edge ... instant sense of peril!

To all of you complaining about the finished look, odd shaping, empty spaces - it's LEGO, you're supposed to build, admire, modify, use some imagination and once you've improved upon this design then you can definitively say it's a crap set ... you'll have your proof.

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By in Canada,

I think this set is amazing. The Minifigure selection is fantastic. Lando with the cape printing, Bespin Dress Leia, Bespin Luke and the cloud car pilots look so good. Love the vehicle builds. The UCS Slave I is nice but sometimes you just want a little guy to swoosh around.

A lot of stuff goes down on Cloud City and there hasn’t been a lot of sets over the years depicting the scenes. LEGO usually just focuses on Hoth when it comes to ESB so this is a breath of fresh air. Glad they went the Death Star route and made a play set incorporating most of the scenes.

It’s not perfect, I do wish they took the opportunity to update Han in Carbonite and I wish they would make the Vader torso piece ESB accurate (chest panel with blue instead of
green) but I love this set. If I can afford it in a few weeks, will be a day one purchase for me.

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By in United States,

@darkstonegrey: You really don't see the difference between several smaller sets and one bigger set? For one thing, people don't have to buy all of the smaller sets. If a kid wants to buy Luke and Vader's duel without spending $350, a smaller set would be a great way to do that.

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By in Germany,

MUST have it. Was missing Bespin sets ever since and did not want to spend a fortune (€1000+) for the old Cloud City.

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By in United Kingdom,

Such a waste of a good ucs type of slot.
Gf said she thought it looked 50gbp until she noticed the price.
Half the price of the millennium falcon, looks 100x worse.
Looks like it's aimed for kids with a very adult price.
Don't think it will sell well myself

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By in Canada,

As an overall look it's a bit of a disappointment, but the individual scenes look really good, so overall I think it's a solid effort.

Saying this, and it's probably just me, but the recent Disney Star Wars movies have sort of sucked the STAR WARS wind out of me. I'm not even getting into the pro/anti SJW stuff, and I didn't hate Last Jedi (I thought I would, but I didn't), but whatever magic there was now seems to be magic from childhood, where it's probably best to leave it.

This is not a dig and Disney or Lego, just my feeling, and I've lost my mojo to collect STAR WARS Lego and any STAR WARS stuff as a result.

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By in United States,

For years the original Cloud City set commanded a ridiculous after market price, unobtainable by most people. Lego answers our prayers, gives us an update that makes the old one look silly by comparison, and still people whine. Sure, opinions are welcome here, but have some perspective on this. The old set was a playset too, no? To those saying to sell the rooms separately, who is going to buy Look Who's Coming to Dinner, Cloud City edition, by itself? Or a set of just the room where Chewie works on putting C3PO back together? And as far as expensive playsets go, some adults buy the sets for themselves AND their kids, to share and build together. Assault on Hoth was a lazy effort of rehashed sets, this is nothing of the sort.

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