Another set teased on social media
Posted by Huw,LEGO has teased a set on social media which is alleged to be something to do with Queer Eye, a Netflix series in which team of gay professionals (the "Fab 5") give lifestyle and fashion makeovers to guests.
I've never watched the show but presumably it's popular enough to warrant LEGO producing a related set. If so, is it something that you're looking forward to?
I assume a full reveal will be forthcoming later this week.
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This will most likely be a cute set (the show is very feel-good), but I personally don’t care too much for sets based on tv-series.
Its about time this was announced, my (adult) daughter loves this show, and I mentioned it to before, and she, and I quote, "this is one Lego set I will buy for myself"
I hope it won’t be sitcom style with cameras type of set rather a cool building with loads of detail (open back or not)
I don't watch the show, but all of the hosts I know to be kind people. I have a lot of friends who adore the show, so maybe they'll be making their first (adulthood) LEGO purchases! I've really admired LEGO this year for their inclusive releases. :)
Recently got into this show on Netflix, looking forward to seeing the set.
That hair piece was in blue in the Everyone is Awesome set, people said back then that it very much looked like Tan's hair from Queer Eye
My friend group has been trying to get me to watch this show for a hot minute now, I ought to give it a try, really, maybe this'll be the thing to finally drag me in haha.
@whw_iv said:
"I don't watch the show, but all of the hosts I know to be kind people. I have a lot of friends who adore the show, so maybe they'll be making their first (adulthood) LEGO purchases! I've really admired LEGO this year for their inclusive releases. :)"
Well said! I myself love getting my friends into LEGO!
I want to be clear that not every set needs to be for every customer, and I've got no problem with things like this or Everything is Awesome. At best, they bring some new pieces and interesting techniques. At worst, they're shelfwarmers and we can eventually get them at a discount. Full speed ahead!
That being said,
This seems like such an interesting choice. Other licensing agreements notwithstanding, The Office has come through the Ideas review process probably 3-5 times at this point. There are also a handful of other shows that most people will have heard of, and I'd posit that Queer Eye isn't on that list. I guess this is meant to target a specific market, rather than cast a very large net of appeal. Or perhaps Queer Eye approached Lego, who knows. But if we're looking to continue the set-based-on-a-show theme, it seems like there is a near-bounty of shows that would have much, much more appeal than this. I'm no marketing guru but I feel like you'd want to use the buckshot before the sniper
Never seen the show, but that avocado sticker looks useful!
I have to say I am very curious to see how well this does. It looks like an extremely odd choice. I've never thought of the LEGO fandom and the Reality TV fandom as intersecting in any way.
Oh boy. Cue the right wing outrage.
Well Im interested to see what this is going to turn out like. I dont think its going to be much like the Everyone Is Awesome set, as its based on a TV show. Ive never watched it so Im looking forward to seeing what this is!
The Fab 5? The ones from Tracy Island that pilot the thunderbirds?!
Japes aside though, not a show I'm familar with but could lead to a neato set - looking forward to seeing how it looks whenever the pics drop!
I don't know about this. I get movies, TV shows and video games but reality TV seems like a stretch to me. Next thing you know LEGO is doing sets based on cooking shows.
Never heard of the show, but hopefully it sells well enough to justify its production. If Lego are taking suggestions for future tv show sets then I'd suggest Firefly :)
@Ayliffe said:
"The Fab 5? The ones from Tracy Island that pilot the thunderbirds?!"
Now that's a set I would buy like a shot!
@Henry_D said:
"Well since Winnie the pooh and Santa stuff is for adults now, a show of “gay professionals” make sence, kids would love that. I wonder how parents would react."
We get it, you don’t like the 18+ branding
Ladies and gentlemen, buckle up. These comments sections are about to get interesting!
@Mr__Thrawn said:
" @Henry_D said:
"Well since Winnie the pooh and Santa stuff is for adults now, a show of “gay professionals” make sence, kids would love that. I wonder how parents would react."
We get it, you don’t like the 18+ branding"
See it's all about the long game, if he makes enough comments about it on unrelated articles on this fansite, Lego will be forced to change it back. Way more effective than actually submitting your feedback directly to Lego. No, harping on about it here is definitely the way to go
What's next, sets based on Love Island, Big Brother or Gogglebox!!!!
Assume that it was cheap to get licensing due to Netflix deals in place? Good idea to open up Lego to fans of the show that wouldn’t otherwise think about buying sets.
Never seen the show since it was rebooted on Netflix, used to watch the original with my mum but have a million other sets that I expect will stay ahead of this on my wanted list.
Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents.
It's not the obvious choice for Lego to go with, but then neither were Portal 2, Tron Legacy or Stranger Things. Predicting what's Lego-friendly is a bit of a fool's game nowadays, and that's not a bad thing.
I can't wait, love the show
@jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
I could explain why you're wrong but I don't owe you that and I don't think we should do that here.
I have a big problem with this. I thought there was a rule from Lego that they wouldn't make sets or figures on still living real people. with as reason, that if they do something bad in the future, Lego doesn't want to represent them.
@Mister_Jonny said:
"It's not the obvious choice for Lego to go with, but then neither were Portal 2, Tron Legacy or Stranger Things. Predicting what's Lego-friendly is a bit of a fool's game nowadays, and that's not a bad thing."
I mean, Portal 2 got a $30 Dimensions pack since WB pushed as many licenses into that game as they could, Tron: Legacy was an Ideas set which meant at least 10K thumbs up, and Stranger Things was a worldwide phenomenon by 2019. I wouldn't group those three together, and I don't think I'd compare any of them to the Queer Eye set
@kingalbino said:
"What's next, sets based on Love Island, Big Brother or Gogglebox!!!!"
Hah, Gogglebox would be the first Lego set I'd buy for my mum :D
@KDNX said:
" @jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
I could explain why you're wrong but I don't owe you that and I don't think we should do that here."
People like you end up yelling and changing the subject everytime your glass of Kool-aid is empty. I'd love to educate you but some people just can't be reasoned with.
So I’m a straight middle aged white guy (obviously the most evil thing in the whole of creation!) and I LOVE this show, I would urge anyone to watch it, the positive upbeat messages it puts out around inclusion and being true to yourself are amazing. I for one will be buying this set D1M1
@fakespacesquid said:
"This seems like such an interesting choice. Other licensing agreements notwithstanding, The Office has come through the Ideas review process probably 3-5 times at this point. There are also a handful of other shows that most people will have heard of, and I'd posit that Queer Eye isn't on that list. I guess this is meant to target a specific market, rather than cast a very large net of appeal. Or perhaps Queer Eye approached Lego, who knows. But if we're looking to continue the set-based-on-a-show theme, it seems like there is a near-bounty of shows that would have much, much more appeal than this. I'm no marketing guru but I feel like you'd want to use the buckshot before the sniper"
Aside from any number of reasons an Office license might have not gone through, Queer Eye provides a new audience with a connection to Lego. Representation is incredibly important.
@jondenial I think it's worth pointing out that until fairly recently, portraying queer people at all in popular media was an extremely fraught business (read about the Hays Code to see for yourself). It's not some kind of contradiction or double standard to portray queer people in positive situations, or indeed portray them at all. Indeed, I'd argue it goes some way to highlighting an important truth—that in many respects, queer people aren't so different to their cisgender, heterosexual counterparts, and are entitled to the same happiness and rights to self-expression as anyone else. Provided they aren't harming anyone else, which most expressions of queer identity do not.
When you argue Lego should make 'neutral' toys for children, I'm guessing you want them to make toys that don't make any kind of political statement. A hypothetical Queer Eye set might be a little more overt in its messaging than Lego's typical product offering, but make no mistake: all of Lego's products make overt or covert political statements, and they always have. It's very difficult to make something that has nothing to say about the world surrounding it, and if you're bemoaning a perceived loss of neutrality, you're really bemoaning the fact your preconceptions about the world are being challenged.
There's a discussion to be had about the way queer people are portrayed in culture more broadly (and let's be clear: a Lego Queer Eye set is a business decision rather than an ethical or progressive one). But that's not a reason to trot out the same tedious arguments about queer people whenever our existence is so much as acknowledged.
@jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Well, the values of the LEGO Group do not align with what you're saying. A set like this fits with what the company believes, and thus it is an appropriate set to produce.
Speaking personally, as a queer employee of the LEGO company, I'm 100% thrilled to be releasing this set, even if it is slightly more niche than other exclusives. The company is wildly supportive and generous towards its queer employees, and we're glad that they so openly show it.
Any chance this show takes place in a classic castle or space setting? Maybe in a pirate ship?
@Mister_Jonny said:
"It's not the obvious choice for Lego to go with, but then neither were Portal 2, Tron Legacy or Stranger Things. Predicting what's Lego-friendly is a bit of a fool's game nowadays, and that's not a bad thing."
At this point as long as there's not a big ol' R or M logo on it, LEGO seems to go for it. Plus from what I can tell, the show is pretty tame in and of itself content-wise.
@jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Rest assured that the word "queer" has been thoroughly reclaimed and redefined as a meaningful and affirmational term by queer people. I doubt if many Millennials have any association with that word as a slur, and certainly nobody younger than that would. This is thanks to decades of work and sacrifice by activists, most of whom would likely be happy to be referred to as queer activists in 2021. I say this sitting in a workspace where the queer employees have posted a "Queers work here" banner on the union board.
@fakespacesquid I highlighted those three things pretty arbitrarily because while their source material enjoyed varying levels of popularity, each of them were unusual choices for Lego to make products of. And while Lego has been branching out into more mature audiences that's still a relatively recent thing for them to do in the way that they have.
Portal 2 was four years old by the time Lego Dimensions released, (and a licence in a game aimed largely at children, which Portal 2 very much isn't). Tron Legacy was a box office success, but it's hardly Disney's biggest hit, or something that's inspired a massive following after the fact. Stranger Things' age rating skews a little higher than Lego is typically comfortable with; it was popular, sure, but that alone isn't a reason for Lego to license it.
It wasn't about making a direct comparison to Queer eye, per se. It was about pointing out that there was no real precedent for releasing those particular products at the time, and they were rather pleasant surprises as a result.
@Chardee_MacDennis said:
"I don't know about this. I get movies, TV shows and video games but reality TV seems like a stretch to me. Next thing you know LEGO is doing sets based on cooking shows."
A great British bake off set would be great
@Mister_Jonny said:
" @jondenial I think it's worth pointing out that until fairly recently, portraying queer people at all in popular media was an extremely fraught business (read about the Hays Code to see for yourself). It's not some kind of contradiction or double standard to portray queer people in positive situations, or indeed portray them at all. Indeed, I'd argue it goes some way to highlighting an important truth—that in many respects, queer people aren't so different to their cisgender, heterosexual counterparts, and are entitled to the same happiness and rights to self-expression as anyone else. Provided they aren't harming anyone else, which most expressions of queer identity do not.
When you argue Lego should make 'neutral' toys for children, I'm guessing you want them to make toys that don't make any kind of political statement. A hypothetical Queer Eye set might be a little more overt in its messaging than Lego's typical product offering, but make no mistake: all of Lego's products make overt or covert political statements, and they always have. It's very difficult to make something that has nothing to say about the world surrounding it, and if you're bemoaning a perceived loss of neutrality, you're really bemoaning the fact your preconceptions about the world are being challenged.
There's a discussion to be had about the way queer people are portrayed in culture more broadly (and let's be clear: a Lego Queer Eye set is a business decision rather than an ethical or progressive one). But that's not a reason to trot out the same tedious arguments about queer people whenever our existence is so much as acknowledged.
"
Very well said. It isn't progressive, or political - it's just a set. Representation matters so much. As a middle-aged white guy that never had to worry about that, I'm increasingly more aware as I get older. More of this please!
@jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism."
Not sure what’s hard to understand about representation of historically marginalized people. No double standard necessary.
"I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children."
Almost everything produced by people has some political impetus. Police sets reveal our cultural attitudes towards criminals and the law. Construction sets and their largely male dominated makeup reveal our preference for male builders. Many space sets include American flags which portrays an Americentric perspective. There’s bias to be found in the most innocuous of things, it’s just that the bias represents the status quo and so is viewed neutrally by the less politically savvy.
"For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states."
‘Queer’ has not always been a slur, historically. Though it was used that way in the past, the LGBTQ+ community has made a conscious effort to reclaim the term. Words have usages and change meaning.
"Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Sounds like the ‘free market’ at work to me.
After literally minutes of exhaustive internet research, I've decided this is a good move on Lego's part. The TV show seems really positive and life-affirming, which in my book makes it a smart partnership for Lego.
I might even buy the set if it's good value, has great parts and figures, and is 30+% off RRP at some point (I think this is my standard criteria for every Lego set ever made...)
@SpiderMana said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
"This seems like such an interesting choice. Other licensing agreements notwithstanding, The Office has come through the Ideas review process probably 3-5 times at this point. There are also a handful of other shows that most people will have heard of, and I'd posit that Queer Eye isn't on that list. I guess this is meant to target a specific market, rather than cast a very large net of appeal. Or perhaps Queer Eye approached Lego, who knows. But if we're looking to continue the set-based-on-a-show theme, it seems like there is a near-bounty of shows that would have much, much more appeal than this. I'm no marketing guru but I feel like you'd want to use the buckshot before the sniper"
Aside from any number of reasons an Office license might have not gone through, Queer Eye provides a new audience with a connection to Lego. Representation is incredibly important."
In terms of audience, the audience brought in by an Office (or another Doctor Who, Muppet Show, Mr. Rogers, Fresh Price, heck, even a Red Dwarf) set would unquestionably dwarf the audience brought in by a Queer Eye set. I'd wager even Ru Paul's drag race is more well-known.
The level of importance is irrelevant to my point. "Representation" is in its own basket, and shouldn't be used as an out for poor choices. If Lego chose to focus on representation and make an Empire set, well that would be a weird decision. There are plenty of other shows focused on POC with a wider appeal. That is my point.
How about a Happy Days set - could include Fonz jumping the shark (Something Lego have just done).
@woosterlegos said:
"Any chance this show takes place in a classic castle or space setting? Maybe in a pirate ship?"
LOL
@ALEGOMan said:
"Welp, I guess I'm boycotting lego(dead serious), this is the final straw, after all the garbage sets released this year. Everyone is awesome was one thing, now this? a Netflix series in which team of gay professionals? are you actually serious? Why has LEGO just gone completely political? IT'S A COMPANY THAT SELLS TOYS FOR KIDS"
There really is nothing inherently political about gay people, they're normal people just like straight people
@ALEGOMan said:
"Welp, I guess I'm boycotting lego(dead serious), this is the final straw, after all the garbage sets released this year. Everyone is awesome was one thing, now this? a Netflix series in which team of gay professionals? are you actually serious? Why has LEGO just gone completely political? IT'S A COMPANY THAT SELLS TOYS FOR KIDS"
Just say you hate gay people and move on, jeez.
@Mister_Jonny said:
" @fakespacesquid I highlighted those three things pretty arbitrarily because while their source material enjoyed varying levels of popularity, each of them were unusual choices for Lego to make products of. And while Lego has been branching out into more mature audiences that's still a relatively recent thing for them to do in the way that they have.
Portal 2 was four years old by the time Lego Dimensions released, (and a licence in a game aimed largely at children, which Portal 2 very much isn't). Tron Legacy was a box office success, but it's hardly Disney's biggest hit, or something that's inspired a massive following after the fact. Stranger Things' age rating skews a little higher than Lego is typically comfortable with; it was popular, sure, but that alone isn't a reason for Lego to license it.
It wasn't about making a direct comparison to Queer eye, per se. It was about pointing out that there was no real precedent for releasing those particular products at the time, and they were rather pleasant surprises as a result."
Is Portal 2 supposed to be mature? It seems like it's rated 10+ and I've never heard of anything risque in it. Dimensions also gave us sets based on Goonies, an arcade cabinet, Gremlins, E.T., and a handful of other very old and somewhat niche licenses because WB had them to include. Portal 2 fits right in.
Tron: Legacy wasn't super popular, but it was popular enough to reach 10K on Ideas and pass the review. Searching "queer" turns up 0 results on Ideas, and searching "queer eye" brings up a project based on The Twilight Zone. The demonstrated levels of popularity are not the same. I haven't seen anyone ask for a Queer Eye set, and 10,000 people asked for a Tron: Legacy set.
Stranger Things is definitely a tad more mature, but the year before that set was released we got the James Bond Aston Martin. Those made it clear that Lego is willing to make sets out of unquestionably popular, if dicey, subject material. Queer Eye isn't unquestionably popular, and overall I wouldn't say it's dicey.
And the key with all of those is that they made sense. Portal 2 was a video game reference in a video game product, and it was likely easy to acquire since they were licensing everything under WB's sun. Tron: Legacy went through the specific route that Lego has for people to request products. Stranger Things has so many awards that the set got an award. Queer Eye is a niche within a niche within a niche. Again, I don't have anything against the idea of this set, but it just seems like a weird choice.
I’m mostly just interested in what the set will be; since it’s a show based around makeover type things, I’m curious how it will be constructed. I wouldn’t think they’d go with the sitcom approach with lights and cameras, but maybe they will.
And I won’t touch @ALEGOMan’s comment, as it deserves no attention.
We can't even manage to watch all the shows on Amazon Prime that interest us. Therefore we haven't got any other streaming subscriptions. Never heard of the show, but must admit the premise doesn't sound too interesting to me. But hey, not every set has to appeal to everyone.
It has avocados? Do. Not. Want.
Seems an odd choice to me, but I guess american television is the 'in' thing at the moment and 18+ display sets is a pretty untapped market outside Star Wars UCS sets so why not? Not interested in the set or the show but at least it's something currently broadcasting and not some poorly-aged sitcom, might bag it a few more buys and on the other side seeing the set in shops might push new people to check out the show, so win-win for everyone involved
@ALEGOMan said:
"Welp, I guess I'm boycotting lego(dead serious), this is the final straw, after all the garbage sets released this year. Everyone is awesome was one thing, now this? a Netflix series in which team of gay professionals? are you actually serious? Why has LEGO just gone completely political? IT'S A COMPANY THAT SELLS TOYS FOR KIDS"
KFC just added Popcorn Chicken to their Zinger range here in the UK. I like KFC food, especially the Zinger range, but Popcorn Chicken is lame.
Do I continue eating the KFC products I enjoy, or do I tear up my loyalty card and delete them from my speed dial?
@ALEGOMan Nope, it's a company that sells toys within certain parameters to whoever they think will buy them. If a company can sell to a new audience without compromising their old one, why would they not do that?
Lego isn't exactly alone in this; a lot of companies will pursue progressivism (or at least the appearance of it) if they think it'll boost their profits. Look at Disney introducing characters like Raya and Moana in their animated movies, or all the companies adopting rainbow logos for Pride Month. At some point, somebody in those companies calculated that at least paying lip service to diversity makes more money that avoiding discussion or portrayal of it. And maybe some people will complain about this new direction, but they're presumably dwarfed by the people receptive to it.
And that's what Lego is doing; in expanding into products for adults, they presumably concluded they had to make products that appealed to adults' interests. If Lego are making a Queer Eye set, it's because they believe that a) they can sell enough and b) these people will outweigh people who have no interest in it. That calculation probably underpins everything Lego sells, regardless of who they're aiming it at.
@GlassBoxTesting said:
"Seems an odd choice to me, but I guess american television is the 'in' thing at the moment and 18+ display sets is a pretty untapped market outside Star Wars UCS sets so why not? Not interested in the set or the show but at least it's something currently broadcasting and not some poorly-aged sitcom, might bag it a few more buys and on the other side seeing the set in shops might push new people to check out the show, so win-win for everyone involved"
I think calling Seinfeld and Friends Poorly aged is a bit harsh. I watched some of the former recently, and it’s still pretty funny!
@fakespacesquid said:
"Stranger Things has so many awards that the set got an award. Queer Eye is a niche within a niche within a niche. Again, I don't have anything against the idea of this set, but it just seems like a weird choice. "
Queer Eye is pretty mainstream, they've appeared in Taylor Swift and Lizzo music videos for Pride, and their show does pretty well on Netflix. This is Lego trying to reach an audience that doesn't have a real foundation in Lego fandom again, I'm interested to see how this one does though. Reality TV doesn't usually do "merch" like this aside from a product used in/related to the show.
(I tried watching Queer Eye a couple years ago but wasn't able to get into it lol, maybe I should give it another shot.)
I though this set was already released weeks ago!?
Anyhoe, an easy pass, since the show is absolutely unknown to me as a European guy.
@ALEGOMan said:
"Welp, I guess I'm boycotting lego(dead serious), this is the final straw, after all the garbage sets released this year. Everyone is awesome was one thing, now this? a Netflix series in which team of gay professionals? are you actually serious? Why has LEGO just gone completely political? IT'S A COMPANY THAT SELLS TOYS FOR KIDS"
I can't imagine clutching my pearls so tightly that I would feel compelled to write a comment like this.
The cast of Friends all represented straight characters. Is that political?
The cast of Seinfeld all represented pretty terrible characters, who all happened to be straight. Is that political?
TLG releasing a set highlighting a show about positivity, inclusion and acceptance is incredible. I think it's wildly ironic that THIS is what has set you off. Remember, you're screaming about a kid's toy, but you're likely an adult commenting on a website about that kid's toy.
I have zero interest in this set.
@fakespacesquid said:
" @SpiderMana said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
"This seems like such an interesting choice. Other licensing agreements notwithstanding, The Office has come through the Ideas review process probably 3-5 times at this point. There are also a handful of other shows that most people will have heard of, and I'd posit that Queer Eye isn't on that list. I guess this is meant to target a specific market, rather than cast a very large net of appeal. Or perhaps Queer Eye approached Lego, who knows. But if we're looking to continue the set-based-on-a-show theme, it seems like there is a near-bounty of shows that would have much, much more appeal than this. I'm no marketing guru but I feel like you'd want to use the buckshot before the sniper"
Aside from any number of reasons an Office license might have not gone through, Queer Eye provides a new audience with a connection to Lego. Representation is incredibly important."
In terms of audience, the audience brought in by an Office (or another Doctor Who, Muppet Show, Mr. Rogers, Fresh Price, heck, even a Red Dwarf) set would unquestionably dwarf the audience brought in by a Queer Eye set. I'd wager even Ru Paul's drag race is more well-known.
The level of importance is irrelevant to my point. "Representation" is in its own basket, and shouldn't be used as an out for poor choices. If Lego chose to focus on representation and make an Empire set, well that would be a weird decision. There are plenty of other shows focused on POC with a wider appeal. That is my point. "
Keep in mind that the designer of this set is again Matthew Ashton, TLG’s VP of Design, who also designed Everyone Is Awesome. So just like with
40516, expect a personal connection.
From his social media posts, Matthew seems to be a fan of the show. He will undoubtedly tell us later this week why he selected this show in particular for a set, once the set has been announced.
@kingalbino said:
"What's next, sets based on Love Island, Big Brother or Gogglebox!!!!"
Naked Attraction?! :~O
I’m joking :~P
@ComfySofa said:
" @ALEGOMan said:
"Welp, I guess I'm boycotting lego(dead serious), this is the final straw, after all the garbage sets released this year. Everyone is awesome was one thing, now this? a Netflix series in which team of gay professionals? are you actually serious? Why has LEGO just gone completely political? IT'S A COMPANY THAT SELLS TOYS FOR KIDS"
KFC just added Popcorn Chicken to their Zinger range here in the UK. I like KFC food, especially the Zinger range, but Popcorn Chicken is lame.
Do I continue eating the KFC products I enjoy, or do I tear up my loyalty card and delete them from my speed dial?"
@ComfySofa , I totally agree. I’m not a fan of political didacticism when it’s a choice between that and not consuming a product/service. But in this case (and in the case of Everyone is Awesome), the message is compartmentalised. If you agree with this set, buy it. If you don’t, don’t. (Of course there are other reasons why you may not want to: not fitting the theme of your collection, lack of space, insufficient budget etc).
The new version of the show is pretty boring but anything that makes right-wingers cry and bray like the absolute babies they are is a plus in my book.
I am very interested to see what they do with the set and whether it might have other uses or really interesting parts and minifigs. As a fan of the original and having never watched to reboot, I really don't care about this set other than that.
As a Proud LEGO fanatic who also just happens to be gay, I am rather NOT interested in how you are going to boycott LEGO now because they are now making Gay sets and minifigures. I am 48 years old and have been collecting LEGO since I was 14 (and been gay that whole time), and it really does matter that LEGO makes these decisions. I finally feel supported and valued by the company that I have valued and supported for over 30 years.
If you don't like it, then just ignore it. You don't have to post a comment to try to make other people feel "less than" because that is truly the intent behind comments like that. And I know it's possible to ignore things that you don't like because I have spent decades ignoring your nasty comments and judgement.
@fakespacesquid Most (if not all) of the other Dimensions products had a more significant cultural footprint or contemporary popularity, to the point that even if you hadn't consumed these franchises you could still recognise them. Most of us know what Scooby-Doo is, for example, and I'm guessing enough people had heard of Knight Rider or Beetlejuice to scrape those particular barrels. Stuff like the Ghostbusters 2016 and TTG products were basically advertising, but their inclusion made sense considering the Wave 1 products that preceded them.
Midway Arcade was presumably included because Warner Bros owned a lot of Midway assets at the time of Dimensions' release. The Portal franchise, in contrast, was something WB had no clear connections with (it didn't develop or publish it, for instance) no recent releases, and a notably smaller footprint in our cultural consciousness. From that perspective, I don't think its appearance was as obvious as you say. Clearly there was nothing to stop Lego from including it, but it was never a clear choice for Lego (or WB) to do anything with when compared to everything else that game included.
James Bond isn't as weird a flex as you might expect; it's obviously aimed at a more mature audience, but the most recent films all have 12 ratings. Before Lego Stranger Things came along, Lego had never really made products inspired by things with 15 ratings. (Beetlejuice is a 15, but it's also got a cartoon, and a relatively small footprint in Lego's product range.) Stranger Things might align with many of Lego's values, and enjoy massive popularity, but it's also very much a sci-fi horror franchise, which is something Lego has only explored in very milquetoast ways for the most part.
I suspect that the Queer Eye set has two motivations behind it; to expand the Lego brand's adult appeal, and bolster the queer-friendly credentials Lego is trying to establish (with mixed results, in my opinion). Maybe it's not obvious to you why it was chosen, but at the same time, most of us aren't privy to Lego's internal discussions. Maybe it's a safer bet than its niche status would indicate.
There are some awfully disgusting comments above and if this is the final straw for anyone...see ya. Don't come back. Don't post another comment going forward and go find another hobby.
@fakespacesquid said:
"I'd wager even Ru Paul's drag race is more well-known."
Now I want a RuPaul CMF series for real!
I know nothing about the show, but those pieces look useful.
I'm not sure this will be a build that interests me, but the subject matter is perfectly wholesome and befitting.
@Chardee_MacDennis said:
"I don't know about this. I get movies, TV shows and video games but reality TV seems like a stretch to me. Next thing you know LEGO is doing sets based on cooking shows."
Iron Chef and Kitchen Stadium would be a fantastic set!
@legoverslinder said:
"I have a big problem with this. I thought there was a rule from Lego that they wouldn't make sets or figures on still living real people. with as reason, that if they do something bad in the future, Lego doesn't want to represent them. "
When was this ever a rule? Lego has made plenty of sets with still-living real people. A few examples:
-3401 from 2000 contains Zinedine Zidane
-There was a whole series of NBA players in 2003
-The 2000s saw several sets with real Ferrari drivers
-2016 saw an entire collectible minifigure series based on the DFB team, as well as a set with the Beatles (based on a fictionalized portrayal of them, but still tied to the fab four themselves), two of whom are still alive
-Margaret Hamilton and Mae Jemison are still alive, and Nancy G. Roman was alive when the set featuring her came out
I guess if this is based on a tv show, I probably won’t get it. We’ll see. Maybe it will be cool. I just know as much as I liked Friends and Seinfeld when they were on, the sets just didn’t interest me all that much.
With about 1000 sets in my collection and the number release each year continuing to increase, I’m having to get more selective in what I get (I fail at this a lot). Im running out of room.
Please keep the discussion respectful to others and note that homophobic comments will be deleted and result in the poster being banned from commenting.
@jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Absolutely agree and it upsets me that this isn't a more popular opinion. If we want an equal, liberal society we should be striving for common humanity, not splitting people up into shallow identity categories and viewing them based on whatever category has been forced upon them.
I'd hate to be an accomplished gay person and be celebrated for my sexual preferences rather than the actual merit of my accomplishments. There are more LGBT people who share this perspective than many think.
@person_that_uses_brickset said:
" @Chardee_MacDennis said:
"I don't know about this. I get movies, TV shows and video games but reality TV seems like a stretch to me. Next thing you know LEGO is doing sets based on cooking shows."
A great British bake off set would be great
"
You know about 41393 right?
@Ladondorf said:
" @jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Absolutely agree and it upsets me that this isn't a more popular opinion. If we want an equal, liberal society we should be striving for common humanity, not splitting people up into shallow identity categories and viewing them based on whatever category has been forced upon them.
I'd hate to be an accomplished gay person and be celebrated for my sexual preferences rather than the actual merit of my accomplishments. There are more LGBT people who share this perspective than many think."
This "opinion" is a form of erasure. The goal is to live in a society where preference does not matter however until we get there, LGBT people maintain visibility by identifying as queer. As a straight person, your opinion on this is completely irrelevant.
@Huw said:
"Please keep the discussion respectful to others and note that homophobic comments will be deleted and result in the poster being banned from commenting."
So why is the offending comment still there? I removed my response in respect to your comments, but I had assumed the original comment had been removed.
I do hope the floor will be colourfully tiled unlike the FRIENDS apartment one.
I did remove the original comment earlier but given dozens of others quote it I would have to delete them as well, so I reinstated it. In any case I do not consider it to be offensive to anyone and while I do not agree with his views he's entitled to voice them.
@CDM said:
" @Ladondorf said:
" @jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Absolutely agree and it upsets me that this isn't a more popular opinion. If we want an equal, liberal society we should be striving for common humanity, not splitting people up into shallow identity categories and viewing them based on whatever category has been forced upon them.
I'd hate to be an accomplished gay person and be celebrated for my sexual preferences rather than the actual merit of my accomplishments. There are more LGBT people who share this perspective than many think."
This "opinion" is a form of erasure. The goal is to live in a society where preference does not matter however until we get there, LGBT people maintain visibility by identifying as queer. As a straight person, your opinion on this is completely irrelevant. "
We will get to a society where preference does not matter when we stop celebrating people's preferences, and when we stop dismissing people's arguments based solely on those preferences, as you have just done.
Furthermore, I said there are LGBT people who share my opinion, which I personally know to be true, so how are you not the one committing erasure of them, by dismissing it as just my irrelevant "straight" opinion?
I think we can count on this set having cool parts / re-colors etc. I feel like that's the REAL trend behind a lot of IDEAS and niche sets: drawing people in with exclusive parts - for those who pay attention to such things (and AFOLs most certainly do), and expanding sales and a customer / follower-base that way.
Not that this is the same thing - it isn't - but I bought the Big Bang Theory set for this reason, because of all the interesting parts and new minfigs. That show isn't really to my taste, but it was worth a buy just for that reason alone (in my opinion, obviously). If nothing else, this set will probably offer a similar reason for buying, even if you don't like the show.
For this set, for me, I will buy it for the parts but also for the representation, and support of a product I'd like to see more of. I don't expect everyone to do the same or to agree with me or with that practice, but I will do that and I felt I should say so when posting. I have seen a lot of good explanations in this thread, of the idea behind this practice, and I couldn't come close to articulating it as well as some others already have so I won't try. But that's part of my purchase decision for this particular set. And the fun! Honestly, I think it's cool that LEGO is making a set like this, just from the standpoint of "how fun is that" for this show and these "characters" / stars of the show (and make no mistake, they are playing characters who happen to have the same faces and some unknown-to-us amount of personality overlap).
Plus it will go well when I finally have time and space to build one big condo tower that includes a lot of these TV sets together. It's only in LEGO that Seinfeld, Friends, BBT, and now Queer Eye, will all live in harmony in the same building. Gotta ditch those "TV set" appendages (i.e. lights, cameras) for this project though...
@ALEGOMan said:
"Welp, I guess I'm boycotting lego(dead serious), this is the final straw, after all the garbage sets released this year. Everyone is awesome was one thing, now this? a Netflix series in which team of gay professionals? are you actually serious? Why has LEGO just gone completely political? IT'S A COMPANY THAT SELLS TOYS FOR KIDS"
See ya. Missing you already. It sadens me how readily negativity like this is posted on a hobby site that wants to be a happy, inclusive positive space.
@Mister_Jonny said:
"I think it's worth pointing out that until fairly recently, portraying queer people at all in popular media was an extremely fraught business (read about the Hays Code to see for yourself). "
The Hays Code ended in 1968. There have been queer characters on TV with little controversy for over 30 years now, and more than a few popular gay lead shows in the last decade.
The real issue now is moving away from token or stereotype characters. Being positive, interesting people is what matters. I've never watched the show but based on other comments it sounds like the hosts of this show managed to do that. I hope that they are successful for that reason and not simply for the labels they have.
@fakespacesquid said:
"In terms of audience, the audience brought in by an Office (or another Doctor Who, Muppet Show, Mr. Rogers, Fresh Price, heck, even a Red Dwarf) set would unquestionably dwarf the audience brought in by a Queer Eye set. I'd wager even Ru Paul's drag race is more well-known. "
As a Red Dwarf fan I've come to accept that as popular as the show is with people I know, it is just far too niche to the world at large to ever become a real set.
I think there are many sitcoms and reality TV shows that people have the same bias towards. Very very few older media properties have the cultural cache to justify the development cost of a Lego set.
I want to believe that Lego has done its homework and that there is a market for this set but after the recent string of very niche sets (Adidas trainer....), I am not sure.
AFAIK, Friends was the best selling Ideas set by an order of magnitude, and Seinfield is also doing very well, especially with those who have never bought a Lego set before.
Ultimately that's what Lego wants, to sell sets to as many new customers as possible. I'm just not sure that those people keep buying as much as TLG hopes, or that these niche sets reaches many people as they believe.
@Ladondorf said:
" We will get to a society where preference does not matter when we stop celebrating people's preferences, and when we stop dismissing people's arguments based solely on those preferences, as you have just done.
Furthermore, I said there are LGBT people who share my opinion, which I personally know to be true, so how are you not the one committing erasure of them, by dismissing it as just my irrelevant "straight" opinion?"
I said nothing about your anecdotally gay friends and their opinions. Straight people, such as myself, have no right to dictate how the LGBT community choose to identify themselves. Those who choose to be visible don't do it for our benefit. It's not about us.
Seems like a rather obscure series to make a set for, but then again I don't have Netflix and I don't watch fashion/makeover shows
Also, these comments are so annoying. Talk about the Lego, not your political opinions PLEASE. It wasn't political until you made it political.
I haven't watched this how. I never even heard of it until the rumors started up on Eurobricks when the Everything is Awesome set came to be.
However, with that said, new pieces? I'm in. New set designs with new techniques? I'm in. New figures with neat prints? I'm in.
Now I'm just hoping for a decent price.
@Huw said:
"I did remove the original comment earlier but given dozens of others quote it I would have to delete them as well, so I reinstated it. In any case I do not consider it to be offensive to anyone and while I do not agree with his views he's entitled to voice them."
That's a bit disappointing. Feel free to delete my replies to the offending posts as a byproduct of removing the negative comments. This section would be a lot more tolerable without so many thinly-veiled anti LGBTQ+ comments.
Remarks about what parents would think or how an openly gay LEGO VP "has too much say" serve *no* positive purpose.
I'm just going to throw my hat in the ring on this set being made at all.
Am I bothered by a set being made of this show? It's... complicated.
The biggest reason I get ticked off with sets like Everyone is Awesome or maybe this one is because it feels so much like a marketing stunt rather than inclusion. Let's be real, LEGO is not your friend. They are a company, and they want to make money. Can they do a lot of good in the process? Absolutely! But when it comes to LGBT+ representation, it's a fine line between being inclusive and feeling like a marketing tactic.
What I mean by feeling like a marketing tactic is that the inclusivity is used mostly to make a dollar, then discarded otherwise. It's the same reason I get annoyed with rainbow-colored Mickey toys. When we're talking about products to be sold, a company better make absolutely sure they aren't just adding diversity for the sake of a quick dollar. LGBT+ is a serious part of many people's identities, and exploiting that just isn't cool. However, LGBT+ is also a controversial topic among many circles. I personally think the topic is one that needs to be seriously discussed without a corporation butting in to try and sell you something.
In regards to Queer Eye, let's be honest. This show isn't the biggest thing around. The only reason I ever heard of it was because there was a quick joke in the Animaniacs reboot about it along with this set. It's not exactly a show that's widely known or has widespread appeal. So, along with Everyone is Awesome, it certainly feels like LEGO is trying to tap into the LGBT+ marketplace.
And let me make one thing clear. Everyone is welcome to LEGO. Drawing that crowd to LEGO isn't a negative thing in and of itself. What I do take an issue with is LEGO viewing and treating that crowd like another source of income. Would that really make them any different from other large companies out there?
I think the contents of the set will be more important than how popular the show is/was.
When I bought Central Perk, I had never watched FRIENDS, but thougt the set was interesting and fun to build.
As it happens, it also started me off watching the series as well.
If a set is done well enough, people will buy it just for that I think. It would be good if it contains swappable items/colours to redesign the main build given it is based on a makeover show.
Hope fully see soon!
@MainBricker said:
" @tremendo said:
" Remarks about what parents would think or how an openly gay LEGO VP "has too much say" serve *no* positive purpose."
I'm sorry, but you simply cannot consider comments that are negative about this set as "homophobic".
I make my comments about Matthew Ashton on the basis that he is vice president of design (so has considerable say over the sets that are made), people have long noted that he is a fan of this reality TV show. Due to the lack of popularity of this TV show, and it being a reality TV show, it doesn't strike me as something Lego would duo purely for commercial reasons, I have a feeling he's pushed it through, even though potential sales figures don't look great. He designed this particular set. He could push another random TV show that he likes (such as Selling Sunset or Tidying Up), my response would be the same.
I personally do not think Lego should make sets on reality TV shows. But apparently people consider that homophobic."
First: I didn't use the term, "homophobic". I don't think people are scared of the LGBTQ+ community, but I do think they are stretching to find a reason to dislike this set (that we haven't even seen yet!)
Second: You're begging the question. Why do you assume the show isn't popular? It seems like a real stretch to say this got made because the public face of TLG's diversity & inclusion efforts is a fan of the show.
We're not going to convince each other of our points, but at least you didn't say it's a political set.
I'm reading a lot of opinions based on assumptions here.
Why not wait for the set to actually be revealed before passing judgment?
While I personally don't care much for the subject matter, I may still buy the set if it piques my interest in any other way, be it building techniques, part selection or whatever.
It wouldn't be the first time either.
@MainBricker said:
"Lego making a set based on a trashy reality TV show?"
You misspelled’Emmy award winning’
@PixelTheDragon said:
"I'm just going to throw my hat in the ring on this set being made at all.
Am I bothered by a set being made of this show? It's... complicated.
The biggest reason I get ticked off with sets like Everyone is Awesome or maybe this one is because it feels so much like a marketing stunt rather than inclusion. Let's be real, LEGO is not your friend. They are a company, and they want to make money. Can they do a lot of good in the process? Absolutely! But when it comes to LGBT+ representation, it's a fine line between being inclusive and feeling like a marketing tactic.
What I mean by feeling like a marketing tactic is that the inclusivity is used mostly to make a dollar, then discarded otherwise. It's the same reason I get annoyed with rainbow-colored Mickey toys. When we're talking about products to be sold, a company better make absolutely sure they aren't just adding diversity for the sake of a quick dollar. LGBT+ is a serious part of many people's identities, and exploiting that just isn't cool. However, LGBT+ is also a controversial topic among many circles. I personally think the topic is one that needs to be seriously discussed without a corporation butting in to try and sell you something.
In regards to Queer Eye, let's be honest. This show isn't the biggest thing around. The only reason I ever heard of it was because there was a quick joke in the Animaniacs reboot about it along with this set. It's not exactly a show that's widely known or has widespread appeal. So, along with Everyone is Awesome, it certainly feels like LEGO is trying to tap into the LGBT+ marketplace.
And let me make one thing clear. Everyone is welcome to LEGO. Drawing that crowd to LEGO isn't a negative thing in and of itself. What I do take an issue with is LEGO viewing and treating that crowd like another source of income. Would that really make them any different from other large companies out there?
"
Well said, PixelTheDragon. It's a precarious topic to wade through, and I think you've carefully spelled out what the backlash might be. Is this representative of LGBQ+ inclusion or is it a marketing ploy? Or is it both? (Or, is it, as other commentators have pointed, a possible pet project of a VP within LEGO's echelons.)
I suppose, for lack of a better explanation, what we're seeing might be some sort of "commercialism of LGBTQ+ representation" (since we've already had decades of the commercialism of Christmas, as Charlie Brown famously observed some 50 years ago). I, like others, have heard the backlash from some LGBTQ+ colleagues and friends that some companies and online shopping websites are commercializing on their feelings, their community, and even their state of being. This was particularly evident during last June's pride month.
@Ladondorf said:
" @CDM said:
" @Ladondorf said:
" @jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism. We've become obsessed with blatantly pointing out each others differences, then wonder why we struggle to find common ground. I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children. Once a company prides themselves on bias, I reflexively retract. It's not about openly homosexual people being in a TV show, but that Hollywood points out their sexual orientation for the sake of controversy and profit. For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states. Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Absolutely agree and it upsets me that this isn't a more popular opinion. If we want an equal, liberal society we should be striving for common humanity, not splitting people up into shallow identity categories and viewing them based on whatever category has been forced upon them.
I'd hate to be an accomplished gay person and be celebrated for my sexual preferences rather than the actual merit of my accomplishments. There are more LGBT people who share this perspective than many think."
This "opinion" is a form of erasure. The goal is to live in a society where preference does not matter however until we get there, LGBT people maintain visibility by identifying as queer. As a straight person, your opinion on this is completely irrelevant. "
We will get to a society where preference does not matter when we stop celebrating people's preferences, and when we stop dismissing people's arguments based solely on those preferences, as you have just done.
Furthermore, I said there are LGBT people who share my opinion, which I personally know to be true, so how are you not the one committing erasure of them, by dismissing it as just my irrelevant "straight" opinion?"
CDM is not dismissing your opinion because you are straight, they dismissed it on the basis of the opinion itself - no need to grasp at victimhood
Your idea that ‘preference’ shouldn’t matter is a nice ideal, but we are not there yet. We don’t get there by ignoring difference as you suggest. If we did that we’d end up with some bland homogenous grey society. We get to the place where sexual and gender identity don’t matter by celebrating and embracing diversity. Representation of minorities is a vital part of that.
“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”
@Henry_D said:
"Well since Winnie the pooh and Santa stuff is for adults now, a show of “gay professionals” make sence, kids would love that. I wonder how parents would react."
If they've got any sense, it'll be a non-issue. The show features gay professional stylists but there's no adult content. Kids can't catch gay from TV shows or LEGO sets.
@Henry_D said:
"Well since Winnie the pooh and Santa stuff is for adults now, a show of “gay professionals” make sence, kids would love that. I wonder how parents would react."
As a parent, I would have no issue with my children meeting the 5 "gay professionals" in this series. Im not sure what exactly you mean by gay professional but actually I think this is something I might add to my CV too since I am also a gay professional, I am very good at being gay. In fact, Im very professional at it as I have been gay since....well as long as I can remember. I'm also a gay mummy so maybe that is another layer of 'gay professionalism' to consider.
Anyway, Im a huge fan of the show. The initial concept of 'Queer Eye for the Straight Guy' was much more about these 5 gay guys entering and helping a straight guy to see himself and his world differently to support positive change. There was a clear reason for dropping the "for the straight guy' part of the title as times change and it became less about the differing view of Queer to Straight and more about 5 awesome guys helping someone to make some real positive changes in their life.
I love the show and I love LEGO. I'll be intrigued to see what happens when the two come together... @Huw if you need a gay professional to review the set then Im your gay ;-)
I tell you what though, if its a slow news day when its released and this gets some real media attention, it’ll sell like hot cakes!
I didn’t hear of this show until when it won a couple of Emmy’s the other day. I’m sure it might be a good build, but I’m not a reality TV fan anyway.
The fact we’re getting a ‘mature themed’ set does pave the way for some future licenses though. Hopefully Firefly or Rick and Morty is right round the corner!
Am I the only one to know this show and watched at least 10 episodes? Still I am not sure if I will dig this set. Love Star Wars no matter gay stuf! And I am gay.
Never saw the show or heard of it before this article. Reality shows aren't my thing and wikipedia article (and the title) indicates that it's not for guys like me. Lego certainly could have produced some nice Office set or Princess Bride set or alot of IPs that I enjoy. These are cultural icons. Seems to me that selling product is not the agenda for a set like this.
@Zander said:
" @kingalbino said:
"What's next, sets based on Love Island, Big Brother or Gogglebox!!!!"
Naked Attraction?! :~O
I’m joking :~P
"
This gave me a good laugh. Naked Attraction would be a very funny MOC, with the different coloured doors and 'nude' minifigs (now they've done Everyone is Awesome the 'naked' legs and hips should be easier to come by).
Such a feel good show. Looking forward to seeing the figures especially.
It's an odd topic for a Lego set, but I guess, okay?
They have made some ... interesting decisions lately in terms of set themes.
At least it's not related to a music video app.
LEGO really needs to decide if they want to be political or not, and they need to stick with it. I would love to get a CMF series based off US presidents. I also think a D2C Noah's Ark set would be fantastic. But nope, those are considered too "political." I don't want to be hated for saying this, but this is just my opinion. If LEGO is going the political route, I wish they would stick with that, and produce more historical or religious sets, because if they're delving this deep into politics, they should at least be consistent and give us Christians what we want. If you wanna hate me for this, be my guest, but know that I'm not trying to offend anyone. This whole comment section has become a mad house, which stinks, because people have the right to have their own opinions.
@MainBricker said:
"The market research for this set points to it not being a good idea, so how has it got to actually becoming a set?"
You keep claiming that. Apart from your guess work on what do you base this opinion?
@Zander said:
" @kingalbino said:
"What's next, sets based on Love Island, Big Brother or Gogglebox!!!!"
Naked Attraction?! :~O
I’m joking :~P"
I was going to say exactly this and I’m very sad you beat me to it XD
I bet Iain Heath could do a great model of that
@kingalbino said:
"What's next, sets based on Love Island, Big Brother or Gogglebox!!!!"
Missing the Animal Planet shows! so many too choose from! How about a Mountain Monsters or Finding Bigfoot set. More sasquatch and cryptids please.
Never seen the show for this new set, but thats ok. I'm sure friends, Seinfeld, BBT are in the same situation. No one is making you purchase it.
Could this be the most polarising of releases since Jack Stone?
Reading all these comments about people threatening to boycott the company I feel I have to chime in again and ask "are you serious?"
I mean, I am definitely not gay, but I know and am friends with people who are. It is part of life and has been for centuries, quite likely since the dawn of civilization. I had Latin in school and literature from that era was filled with stories about gay people and it seemed to be considered quite normal back then. And that was about two thousand years ago!
As far as LEGO is concerned, to me it comes down to a simple question each and every time: is the set any good imho? To me that means does the quality match the price I am asked to pay for it. Does it have enough positive aspects to warrant a purchase.
There are plenty of sets currently available where the answer to the above question(s) to me is "no". You know what? I simply don't buy these sets and move on.
Sure, I would love to see a Classic Space or Castle revival theme more than something like Vidiyo or a set based on a (to me) obscure TV show, but hey, I don't threaten to boycott the entire rest of the lineup because of it. (I even bought quite a few of the Vidiyo stage sets as dirt cheap parts packs when they were available on Amazon recently for between 60 and 80 percent off - could never resist a good bargain... ).
Thanks to the abundance of alternative manufacturers nowadays I can get almost everything I want, and still find plenty of enticing stuff from LEGO themselves.
Lighten up everyone! Life is too short and precious to waste time getting angry and worked up about so little.
Just going to add my voice to the “I’m glad this exists, even if only for the positive affirmation of the queer community” chorus, and I’m always surprised and disappointed when I see that something as positive and inclusive as LEGO can somehow have cruel-hearted people claim to be “fans”. Hatred has no place in the LEGO community.
Another set solidly in the category of "Huh. Well, I suppose."
I was vaguely aware of the show and its premise, but I don't think it would have ever come to mind as a candidate for a Lego release. Still, interested to see what the set will actually look like.
@whw_iv said:
"I don't watch the show, but all of the hosts I know to be kind people."
I mean it’s basically ninjago, helping people reach their true potential ;)
@tm76 said:
" @kingalbino said:
"What's next, sets based on Love Island, Big Brother or Gogglebox!!!!"
Missing the Animal Planet shows! so many too choose from! How about a Mountain Monsters or Finding Bigfoot set. More sasquatch and cryptids please.
Never seen the show for this new set, but thats ok. I'm sure friends, Seinfeld, BBT are in the same situation. No one is making you purchase it.
Could this be the most polarising of releases since Jack Stone?"
If they did a mountain monsters set, they could get some more use from the hobbit dwarf moulds
Okay guys, grow up.
If you don't like the set, DON'T BUY IT. It's not worth arguing about with strangers on the internet.
If you like the set, good for you, I hope you enjoy your copy.
PLEASE, I want to have one last thing without politics laced into it.
Thank you.
I’ve never even heard of the show, probably won’t buy the set unless it’s got something really interesting going on. Hopefully fans of the show like it enough.
But yeah, I agree that this is probably a bad idea for a set. Something more recognisable like The Office was probably more deserving, and this is coming from someone who loathes that show. I agree with other commenters, putting all the focus on someone’s sexual preference completely detracts from their actual accomplishments. People saying this isn’t the place to talk about it, they’re releasing a set with “queer” in the name this is exactly the place to talk about it. I’m bi, there’s so much more to my personality than that but in situations like this all people want to do is “celebrate being LGBT”, and it seems like most of them aren’t even LGBT they just call themselves “allies”. I don’t need a $60 LEGO set with some rainbow minifigures to be comfortable with who I am (and on that note, wouldn’t a proper figure pack with a diverse set of skin tones with male and female prints be far more deserving of the name “everyone is awesome”? That would’ve been more inclusive than the set we got IMO). All this talk about being “inclusive” but people are being split up into all these different groups.
i'm assuming this set will be similar to the Women of NASA set, so it will be interesting to see what builds they came up with to represent each of the presenters.
I hate the way Lego has become a 'lifestye' brand
@Rob42 said:
"Another set solidly in the category of "Huh. Well, I suppose."
I was vaguely aware of the show and its premise, but I don't think it would have ever come to mind as a candidate for a Lego release. Still, interested to see what the set will actually look like."
You know what would be funny - if it had fashion makeover before and after minifigs and a transformation box with a rotating wall
If TLG has a long-term agreement with Netflix, it will be interesting to see what comes next. The Stranger Things license appeared to be a stand-alone deal, but this news indicates otherwise. A LEGO chess set based on The Queen's Gambit would be a nice move!
@CDM said:
"There are some awfully disgusting comments above and if this is the final straw for anyone...see ya. Don't come back. Don't post another comment going forward and go find another hobby. "
I totally agree. We are fans of Lego. This is not a platform for hate speech or abuse of others because they hold a different view to your own.
@PixelTheDragon said:
" @GlassBoxTesting said:
"Seems an odd choice to me, but I guess american television is the 'in' thing at the moment and 18+ display sets is a pretty untapped market outside Star Wars UCS sets so why not? Not interested in the set or the show but at least it's something currently broadcasting and not some poorly-aged sitcom, might bag it a few more buys and on the other side seeing the set in shops might push new people to check out the show, so win-win for everyone involved"
I think calling Seinfeld and Friends Poorly aged is a bit harsh. I watched some of the former recently, and it’s still pretty funny!
"
My son is 17 now, but we watched the whole series together
about 5 years ago and he loved it.
I've watched a little bit of the show, and I'm skeptical what the "set" will be, because the hosts just go around to people's houses. There is no main setting like in the Ideas sitcom sets, or competition based reality TV. It's actually surprising if LEGO is making Queer Eye sets before LEGO Masters sets. If LEGO wanted to get reality TV fans as customers, why not make LEGO sets of the LEGO show? The majority of the audience of LEGO Masters aren't AFOLs either (hence Will Arnet had to explain the "interlocking technique" which is one of the most basic) and the show has done much to get the layman excited about plastic bricks.
As has been said above, reality TV shows rarely have merch. If Queer Eye had merch it would probably be branded clothing, not a LEGO set. Why have your first foray into merchandising opportunities with something of dubious appeal to your audience, like a toy company, rather than something that could be more appealing to your audience, and the public in general? If Queer Eye did have a "fashion line," it could be peddled to the person the hosts visit each episode, as a part of "improving" their lives. Though I don't know if they would be so overt about it.
But LEGO Masters is entirely revolving around a TLG's product, so it would make sense for special versions of the product themed around such a hit show to be made. Like many AFOLs, I don't care for LEGO Masters, and would groan a little if tie-in sets were made, but to see LEGO choose to make Queer Eye sets first just has me confused. This on top of Vidiyo, the giant shoe, etc. all have us wondering where LEGO has misplaced its brain recently.
@woosterlegos said:
"Any chance this show takes place in a classic castle or space setting? Maybe in a pirate ship?"
Black Sails
Plot twist: this is the 2022 licensed CMF series.
MAYBE we should all just shut up until we've actually seen the set!!!
@ALEGOMan said:
"Welp, I guess I'm boycotting lego(dead serious), this is the final straw, after all the garbage sets released this year. Everyone is awesome was one thing, now this? a Netflix series in which team of gay professionals? are you actually serious? Why has LEGO just gone completely political? IT'S A COMPANY THAT SELLS TOYS FOR KIDS"
Lego has not gone political. The queer community is simply living their lives. It's the policing of, and refusal to acknowledge their existence in public spaces that has become politicized. Also Lego has proven that it is more than just a "toy for kids" I'm sure this will be branded under their Adults Welcome branding and will be advertised as such.
Not everything is for everyone, if you don't appreciate it move on. But it's clear that Lego will continue to create sets that celebrate diversity in all forms and I appreciate that.
the rumor is that it's going to be a set of their apartment, which, in my opinion, isn't super distinct or memorable from what i've seen. at least not compared to the recent sitcom apartments they've been doing, but i'm hoping to be surprised with the final product. at least the minifigures will be interesting.
all that being said, i'm still a little shocked that they're making a set based on a reality show. i can see queer eye being popular with tweens and teens, and it helps that there's a decently-sized cast and a central location featured regularly throughout the series. i'd say this opens the doors for other lego sets based on reality shows, but i'm genuinely struggling to think of another series with enough lego-approved qualities for it to become real. maybe a game show? i'd buy lego jeopardy.
@monkyby87 said:
"I’m mostly just interested in what the set will be; since it’s a show based around makeover type things, I’m curious how it will be constructed. I wouldn’t think they’d go with the sitcom approach with lights and cameras, but maybe they will."
So very much this! Like. There's the central "Fab 5", but is the set the same every week? The cars? The... What's iconic about the show other than the hosts?
I'm intrigued! And also stumped.
I've seen people criticize Lego and other companies for capitalizing on the existence of the LGBTQ+ community and there's a whole discussion to be had on the nature of capitalism and how good/bad it is, but regardless of how you cut it, a capitalist system marketing to the LGBTQ+ community is perhaps the greatest form of validation you can ask for. In a backwards sort of way, it is both an acknowledgement of existence, validity, and a great enough share of the market to be worth marketing to.
Whether you like it or not, it's still a good thing, even if it's not as sincere as you would like. Lego does donate to and works with LGBTQ+ charities, and the Lego fandom is very inclusive, aside from the trolls touting thinly veiled anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment and hiding behind the false pretense of politics.
Make no mistake, this is a good thing, even if the capitalistic nature of it leaves a sour taste in your mouth sometimes.
Just my 2 cents on the subject. I can't give any additional opinions on a set I haven't seen yet.
I’m all onboard for LEGO’s moves towards inclusion. As a Christian I’m under represented in LEGO sets. I would like to see TLG include Christian themed sets. Think about the number of medieval European church’s or the Vatican, that would be Awesone!
@JusJeff said:
"I’m all onboard for LEGO’s moves towards inclusion. As a Christian I’m under represented in LEGO sets. I would like to see TLG include Christian themed sets. Think about the number of medieval European church’s or the Vatican, that would be Awesone!"
Lego won't do that. Religion (cough, cough... Christianity) offends too many people. I personally would love it if Lego started making Bible themed sets, but I am almost certain it won't happen.
In regards to this set, if it is related to a queer based tv show, I'm disgusted that it's getting a playset. I guess it's expected being in the lost world we are in today.
@OriginalJK555 said:
" @Prof_Physika said:
" @jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism."
Not sure what’s hard to understand about representation of historically marginalized people. No double standard necessary.
"I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children."
Almost everything produced by people has some political impetus. Police sets reveal our cultural attitudes towards criminals and the law. Construction sets and their largely male dominated makeup reveal our preference for male builders. Many space sets include American flags which portrays an Americentric perspective. There’s bias to be found in the most innocuous of things, it’s just that the bias represents the status quo and so is viewed neutrally by the less politically savvy.
"For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states."
‘Queer’ has not always been a slur, historically. Though it was used that way in the past, the LGBTQ+ community has made a conscious effort to reclaim the term. Words have usages and change meaning.
"Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Sounds like the ‘free market’ at work to me.
"
Yes. Nothing screams representation better than 2”, plastic, androgynous, yellow colored, figures. Granted a set like this will use the flesh toned color over yellow, but Lego’s whole schtick used to be that their figures represented everyone. Now with licensing, everyone feels the need to have their group represented. People who make their identity the central focus of their lives are doomed to a life of desire and disappointment because nothing will ever be satisfactory. Also as note. Everyone who thinks Lego cares about [insert preferred cultural or social group] is fooling themselves. They are a business. Their stated goal is to make money. If enough people complained and caused a big enough uproar to affect their bottom line, they will kick that line of thinking pretty fast."
I know you didn’t think before commenting because if you had for a second, you’d realize how asinine what you said was.
Except for the part about businesses primarily caring about their bottom line. Turns out the accumulation of wealth is ~not~ a great foundation for an entire society.
@OriginalJK555 said:
"Problem for religious people is they are bound by their values and tend to protest in silence rather than making their voice heard."
I’m sorry, you live in America and believe that Christians are a silent majority. Turn on the news once in a while
"People who make their identity the central focus of their lives are doomed to a life of desire and disappointment because nothing will ever be satisfactory."
I feel sorry for you that your identity means so little to you or that it is so uninteresting as to not be worth focusing on or celebrating. Personally I love focusing on all the different aspects of my identity, queer, father, LEGO fan, nerd etc. I’ll celebrate them all.
You know it's bad when @AustinPowers is the one telling people to lighten up :)
Anyway, never seen Queer Eye, and as a queer person I can understand the concerns about rainbow capitalism and marketing stunts, but frankly,
1. marketing isn't automatically bad, it's only bad when it's nothing more than superficial virtue signaling and the company doesn't actually help marginalized groups. Everyone, including LEGO, can do better, but it's not like LEGO doesn't already honor these values in some way. Marketing can be used for good.
2. people, especially those in marginalized groups, need to earn a living. So long as queer people are involved in the processes and paid accordingly (you know... like Matthew Ashton), I don't see a problem. LEGO is a toy company. If they *weren't* selling any Pride products — in other words, integrating Pride into their product line — I'd raise an eyebrow. You can already make any character you want queer or straight. But some people prefer visibility, and that's what Pride is all about.
I'm more of a 40516 kind of person, but I'll keep an eye on this news. You are not obligated to do the same if this does not interest you, or if this upsets you. And good riddance to those who were already constantly leaving insufferably negative comments about various LEGO themes anyway — the comments section will be a little less tiresome. LEGO is all about imagination, creativity and wonder, and I hope the colorful bricks teach you a little something about having an open mind.
Okay, back to capitalizing on opening my Christian wallet…. TLG please note that France is working feverishly to reopen the Notre Dame in Paris. You could really bank on all the free publicity and marketing by making a set based on the cathedral!!!
@OriginalJK555 said:
" @Prof_Physika said:
" @jondenial said:
"Isn't this exactly as if they called it "Straightfeld" or "White F.R.I.E.N.D.S." I'll never understand the double standard of progressivism."
Not sure what’s hard to understand about representation of historically marginalized people. No double standard necessary.
"I wish Lego would just shut up and stick to making neutral toys for children."
Almost everything produced by people has some political impetus. Police sets reveal our cultural attitudes towards criminals and the law. Construction sets and their largely male dominated makeup reveal our preference for male builders. Many space sets include American flags which portrays an Americentric perspective. There’s bias to be found in the most innocuous of things, it’s just that the bias represents the status quo and so is viewed neutrally by the less politically savvy.
"For anyone too young or otherwise ignorant, "Queer" has ALWAYS been a derogatory and offensive term here in the states."
‘Queer’ has not always been a slur, historically. Though it was used that way in the past, the LGBTQ+ community has made a conscious effort to reclaim the term. Words have usages and change meaning.
"Now that Hollywood has found a way to profit from it, we're supposed to be ok with it being plastered everywhere, even on Lego? Just my 2 cents. "
Sounds like the ‘free market’ at work to me.
"
Yes. Nothing screams representation better than 2”, plastic, androgynous, yellow colored, figures. Granted a set like this will use the flesh toned color over yellow, but Lego’s whole schtick used to be that their figures represented everyone. Now with licensing, everyone feels the need to have their group represented. People who make their identity the central focus of their lives are doomed to a life of desire and disappointment because nothing will ever be satisfactory. Also as note. Everyone who thinks Lego cares about [insert preferred cultural or social group] is fooling themselves. They are a business. Their stated goal is to make money. If enough people complained and caused a big enough uproar to affect their bottom line, they will kick that line of thinking pretty fast."
Takes two people to complain to have a set kicked out. ie 42113 Bell Osprey
@Mister_Jonny said:
"...but make no mistake: all of Lego's products make overt or covert political statements, and they always have..."
@tremendo said:
"...Very well said. It isn't progressive, or political - it's just a set..."
@Prof_Physika said:
"...Almost everything produced by people has some political impetus..."
@The_Toniboeh said:
"...There really is nothing inherently political about gay people..."
Please just make up your mind whether everything is inherently political or are there exceptions. I guess we can have it any of the two ways, but not both at the same time. I certainly prefer a worldview where we don't try to see more into things than what was intended, but as a heterosexual white male I know my viewpoint is not representative of everyone's.
On the other hand, as an immigrant and religious minority, I too could feel myself underrepresented - but I don't want to, so I don't go looking for instances of misrepresentation. I'm glad whenever people indicate that they even know my country of origin even exists, even if it's sometimes grossly stereotyped and twisted beyond recognition.
This kind of self-victimizing martyr mentality is what renders among others the american indian sets a complete impossibility nowadays, as the designer is faced with an irresolvable paradox:
- make an old western set without indians -> missing representation
- include a few generic indians -> cultural appropriation and cries about an offensive mishmash
- include a specific indian tribe -> misrepresentation, as the designer might have gotten the shape of their tomahawk wrong, as well as cries about every other tribe being left out.
Result: no american indian representation at all. I think that's the worst outcome of all. Probably the natives do think similarly, but I don't know for sure so I'd rather not speak in their stead.
@Snaz said:
"...It wasn't political until you made it political...."
^this. Could we please stop throwing ourselves under others' feet, so that everyone can move on to do their own thing? Encourage others to do what pleases you, but don't go out of your way just to prevent something from coming to existence only because you don't like it. And especially not if you merely think it offends someone else.
@PixelTheDragon said:
"I'm just going to throw my hat in the ring on this set being made at all.
Am I bothered by a set being made of this show? It's... complicated.
The biggest reason I get ticked off with sets like Everyone is Awesome or maybe this one is because it feels so much like a marketing stunt rather than inclusion. Let's be real, LEGO is not your friend. They are a company, and they want to make money. Can they do a lot of good in the process? Absolutely! But when it comes to LGBT+ representation, it's a fine line between being inclusive and feeling like a marketing tactic.
What I mean by feeling like a marketing tactic is that the inclusivity is used mostly to make a dollar, then discarded otherwise. It's the same reason I get annoyed with rainbow-colored Mickey toys. When we're talking about products to be sold, a company better make absolutely sure they aren't just adding diversity for the sake of a quick dollar. LGBT+ is a serious part of many people's identities, and exploiting that just isn't cool. However, LGBT+ is also a controversial topic among many circles. I personally think the topic is one that needs to be seriously discussed without a corporation butting in to try and sell you something.
In regards to Queer Eye, let's be honest. This show isn't the biggest thing around. The only reason I ever heard of it was because there was a quick joke in the Animaniacs reboot about it along with this set. It's not exactly a show that's widely known or has widespread appeal. So, along with Everyone is Awesome, it certainly feels like LEGO is trying to tap into the LGBT+ marketplace.
And let me make one thing clear. Everyone is welcome to LEGO. Drawing that crowd to LEGO isn't a negative thing in and of itself. What I do take an issue with is LEGO viewing and treating that crowd like another source of income. Would that really make them any different from other large companies out there?
"
I half agree with you on this one. This set is based on a tv show, so if Lego is looking to make a quick buck, no problem. In the case of Everyone is Awesome, I feel like it would have been so much better had they donated all the proceeds to charity.
@JusJeff said:
"I’m all onboard for LEGO’s moves towards inclusion. As a Christian I’m under represented in LEGO sets. I would like to see TLG include Christian themed sets. Think about the number of medieval European church’s or the Vatican, that would be Awesone!"
Seriously? As a Christian you are underrepresented by Lego? Every year Lego releases quite a few Christmas and Easter sets. You also get advent calendars for every major Lego theme. Yes, I realize that they may not feature a Jesus minifigure, but they are sets celebrating Christian holidays. Don’t tell me these sets are secularized, because they aren’t. They celebrate Christian holidays that are only celebrated by Christians.
As a Jew I would love nothing more than a set celebrating Chanukah, but the odds of that happening are absolutely 0. I can’t even propose a Chanukah themed set on Ideas because of their anti-religion policy, but that rule doesn’t apply to Christmas themed ideas.
@alfred_the_buttler said:
" @JusJeff said:
"I’m all onboard for LEGO’s moves towards inclusion. As a Christian I’m under represented in LEGO sets. I would like to see TLG include Christian themed sets. Think about the number of medieval European church’s or the Vatican, that would be Awesone!"
Seriously? As a Christian you are underrepresented by Lego? Every year Lego releases quite a few Christmas and Easter sets. You also get advent calendars for every major Lego theme. Yes, I realize that they may not feature a Jesus minifigure, but they are sets celebrating Christian holidays. Don’t tell me these sets are secularized, because they aren’t. They celebrate Christian holidays that are only celebrated by Christians.
As a Jew I would love nothing more than a set celebrating Chanukah, but the odds of that happening are absolutely 0. I can’t even propose a Chanukah themed set on Ideas because of their anti-religion policy, but that rule doesn’t apply to Christmas themed ideas. "
Are you saying that Christmas is only celebrated by Christians?
On a broader note, this thread really isn't bringing out the best of people. I personally fall into the camp of feeling that reality tv shouldn't be produced as lego sets, but I understand what they are going for.
Used to watch the original queer eye for the straight guy show. It was fun.
But with this new set, is it iconic? The new shows apartment?
Looks like it’d be a good parts pack but iconic display?
I've never seen, or even heard of, the show, but this set looks really good... especially if you're in need of some white brick pieces!