@ItisNoe said:
"That big truck is not System Lego. It's straight up Duplo. Who knows how they combined the 2."

They did it through witchcraft and sorcery, because that thing is CURSED! I now need to scrub my eyes after seeing it...

@Lyichir said:
" @LegoDiego said:
"TLG had a grand opportunity to put in Electro (comic book version) in one of these sets and perhaps gain the sales from the AFOL community. But nooooo!

Your loss TLG"

Why would they put the comic book version in a set based on a TV series where Electro has a different look?"

Why does all the sets have to be based on a tv series. They pulled out that Electro version in set 10893

Any reason why Rhino and Sandman have normal legs and everyone else has midsize?

Spidey And His Amazing Friends?

Huh, so that's what we're calling Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, and Rhino these days.

I dunno comics are weird.

When is Lego releasing a new Scarlet Spider figure? I'm not willing to pay more than $50 for it

@paulmison said:
"It's good to see continued use (and I think a new colour) for the large plastic wheels introduced way back with 6895 in 1989 (in 10791, and in a really useful amount, too)."

Those are not the same wheels. The old ones had twice the diameter.

@R0Sch said:
" @paulmison said:
"It's good to see continued use (and I think a new colour) for the large plastic wheels introduced way back with 6895 in 1989 (in 10791, and in a really useful amount, too)."

Those are not the same wheels. The old ones had twice the diameter."

There were four sizes of the old wheels- these look about the same as the second-largest.

That Rhino figure is spectacular, I adore the use of Dublo and System in one set.

I'm glad doc ock will be in a cheap set. The designs for these sets might be a season behind. So maybe a later wave this year with have more current characters. But I dont watch the show so who knows.

I just want the two Jack-o-lantern pieces.

@560heliport said:
" @R0Sch said:
" @paulmison said:
"It's good to see continued use (and I think a new colour) for the large plastic wheels introduced way back with 6895 in 1989 (in 10791, and in a really useful amount, too)."

Those are not the same wheels. The old ones had twice the diameter."

There were four sizes of the old wheels- these look about the same as the second-largest."

They aren't. These ones look to be about four studs wide and only two studs deep, thinner than all of the old versions of those wheels and only about as wide as the second-smallest of those wheels (which unlike these, did not have studs).

But apparently they(Lego) can't commission another goat mould......

These, ..., things, ... have no value for youngsters as well. They overgrow them very quickly and there are very little uses for these parts outside of their originally intended use (most of the time this can be refuted but with big spiderman eyes printed on the pieces, it is hard to use it for something else)

Since when Spiderman has vehicles anyway???!?

@Lyichir said:
" @560heliport said:
" @R0Sch said:
" @paulmison said:
"It's good to see continued use (and I think a new colour) for the large plastic wheels introduced way back with 6895 in 1989 (in 10791 , and in a really useful amount, too)."

Those are not the same wheels. The old ones had twice the diameter."

There were four sizes of the old wheels- these look about the same as the second-largest."

They aren't. These ones look to be about four studs wide and only two studs deep, thinner than all of the old versions of those wheels and only about as wide as the second-smallest of those wheels (which unlike these, did not have studs)."

Yeah, I guess you're right about the diameter. I don't care, I just love these wheels, and the new ones in the new Ninjago car, 71780 .

When I first saw a photo of Nexo Knights 70322, I thought they'd brought back the largest space wheels, which only were in 6989, 7699, and 10030. I was excited! Then I zoomed on the photo and realized they were the second-largest. I still liked 70322 enough to get two- one uses more Flame Yellowish Orange- Axl's color.

@Lyichir said:
" @560heliport said:
" @R0Sch said:
" @paulmison said:
"It's good to see continued use (and I think a new colour) for the large plastic wheels introduced way back with 6895 in 1989 (in 10791, and in a really useful amount, too)."

Those are not the same wheels. The old ones had twice the diameter."

There were four sizes of the old wheels- these look about the same as the second-largest."

They aren't. These ones look to be about four studs wide and only two studs deep, thinner than all of the old versions of those wheels and only about as wide as the second-smallest of those wheels (which unlike these, did not have studs)."

Yes. These are clearly new versions of those wheels. It does appear to be about the same diameter as the old "medium" sized wheels, but these have studs and seems to not be as deep.

Lots of good figs here. And that weirdo lookin' Spidey truck I want!

May pick up the lighthouse for the roller coaster parts, nothing else really here for me, but there is something about the truck that kinda interests me.

I'm super happy Doc-ock is in the cheapest set though, may actually get that just for her hairpiece, I plan on painting it pink to use for a custom Mistral.

@legoDad42 said:
"One thing with these 4+. Unlike the Star Wars ones, kids 4, 5 years old don't want this.
This is too 'baby-ish' for them. They want the more detailed adventure toys.
This is like for a 2 to 3 year old. 4+ want something like Ninjago, Star Wars sets, etc."

definately!! My 4yo wants 12+ sets,..not this 4+ crap,...to easy for him.
Even the 12+ and up sets hardly provide a real challenge. if he wants a challenge, i give him one of my vintage sets ;)

@560heliport 70322 also tricked me but it still is nice as a large wheel.

Redundant, if you ask me. (yawn)

That spider mobile HQ is so incredibly cursed. It's the big eyes, boulbous 'face', weird blue fender at the front and those 2D wheel struts that make it look like an abomination.

@TomKazutara now that you mention it, that Miles Morales figure looks weirdly similar in color blocking. Huh.

Next please. What a let down pfff!

Ha, they gave Spider-man a clone turbo tank before Star Wars got a new one.

@Lordmoral said:
"That Rhino figure is spectacular, I adore the use of Dublo and System in one set."

There's no Duplo nor Dublo parts in this set. It's all System.

Ugly!!!!

@krysto2002 said:
"Can we take a moment to appreciate the sheer hilarious escalation of force involved as Rhino, who is committing cartoonish petty egg crimes and in return is attacked by a massive 8-wheeled Spider-ATC and a full squad of four super heroes?

It seems like just a little bit of a disproportional response over eggs."

Haven't you seen the price of eggs with inflation? If he stole 2-3 dozen, this could easily be grand larceny.

@MaxA said:
" @krysto2002 said:
"Can we take a moment to appreciate the sheer hilarious escalation of force involved as Rhino, who is committing cartoonish petty egg crimes and in return is attacked by a massive 8-wheeled Spider-ATC and a full squad of four super heroes?

It seems like just a little bit of a disproportional response over eggs."

Haven't you seen the price of eggs with inflation? If he stole 2-3 dozen, this could easily be grand larceny."

What egg-selent points from both of you, and that's no yolk! ;-P

@HOBBES said:
"But apparently they(Lego) can't commission another goat mould......

These, ..., things, ... have no value for youngsters as well. They overgrow them very quickly and there are very little uses for these parts outside of their originally intended use (most of the time this can be refuted but with big spiderman eyes printed on the pieces, it is hard to use it for something else)"

Could build a giant deadpool.

Woah, did anyone notice the Crown coins in 10790? *coughLUGBULKcough*

Spider-Headquarters, Spider-Headquarters,
Doe whatever a Spider… Ought?

Interestingly enough though, does that Spider-Man kind of resemble the PS4 iteration of the character?

@Joehead14 said:
"So what I am seeing is no new minifig characters and just one new version of an existing minifig character (Black Panther).
The entire Marvel line had only one new minifigure, Morbius, that did not have a previous version in any Marvel wave. All the other minifigs are new or old versions of existing characters. "

I noticed this, too! Really brought down the wave for me. I wouldn't even mind if the variants were new versions of characters like Vision or Scarlet Witch who are used less often, I was happy about the Rhino variant, but it feels like we're seeing a lot of the same ten Marvel characters.

I bought some 4+ sets (for parts) before including the 2022 big farm, the 2021 Wildlife Off-Roader, the 2021 Mickey Mouse Farm, the 2019 A-Wing, the 2019 police jet, the 2020 mini sub and the 2014 Turtle Lair but I have zero interest in any of these.

@Joehead14 said:
"So what I am seeing is no new minifig characters and just one new version of an existing minifig character (Black Panther).
The entire Marvel line had only one new minifigure, Morbius, that did not have a previous version in any Marvel wave. All the other minifigs are new or old versions of existing characters. "

Looks like new versions of all characters! With the exception of Green Goblin, Rhino, and Doc Ock. The white emblems on the torsos of all three Spider-people are different from the first wave, and Miles and Gwen have exclusive scuba torsos in the lighthouse set.

I'm not in the 4-year-old demographic for these sets but I am always a fan of new minifigure variants.

@bananaworld said:
"
@BelgianBricker said:
" @legoDad42 said:
"One thing with these 4+. Unlike the Star Wars ones, kids 4, 5 years old don't want this.
This is too 'baby-ish' for them. They want the more detailed adventure toys.
This is like for a 2 to 3 year old. 4+ want something like Ninjago, Star Wars sets, etc."

definately!! My 4yo wants 12+ sets,..not this 4+ crap,...to easy for him.
Even the 12+ and up sets hardly provide a real challenge. if he wants a challenge, i give him one of my vintage sets ;)"
Maybe... not all children are the same and are interested in different play & challenges at different points in their life?

Maybe... one of the world's biggest toy companies has done their homework and knows exactly how to pitch their products?

If you really want to go down the crazy-theory hole: maybe... TLG put deliberately low age ratings on their products so parents can believe that their children are incredibly talented because they can build sets 'above' their abilities...?"

Not crazy. I remember with my kid, and the kid's clubs we did at our local Lego store for years. We'd meet once a month. Plus the Robotics teams we had.
Kids usually want something that not at their age but a little older. All the boys and girls at 4 and 5 played and could build the 6 and 7 year old sets on up. Mostly it was Star Wars.
Same with other toys too. None of the kids want to be around the 'babyish' toys. They always want what the older kids are playing with.
I've seen it with my kid. I've seen it with the dozens of kids at the Lego Club meetings. And I've seen it with the kids at our Robotics team.
So yeah, not crazy.

@BelgianBricker
You got it. Kids always want a little older to play with. And with just some guidance you can get the 4 and 5 year old to build sets a little more complex.
These 4+ sets except for the minifigs are in the Duplo range. Like 1 1/2 to 2 or 3 years old.

Just because young kids want stuff meant for older kids doesn't mean it's appropriate for them- whether subject matter, difficulty, safety, etc.
The 4+ sets are primarily meant for kids new to Lego.
Kids at a Lego club or Robotics meeting are probably experienced builders.

horrible rubbish, don't need to dumb down for children.. need to challenge them!

@560heliport said:
"Just because young kids want stuff meant for older kids doesn't mean it's appropriate for them- whether subject matter, difficulty, safety, etc.
The 4+ sets are primarily meant for kids new to Lego.
Kids at a Lego club or Robotics meeting are probably experienced builders. "

Not all the kids we had. Most were new to Lego.
We'd teach. We had 4 and 5 up to 12.
But the point is young kids want the sets that cooler, or more complex looking. They like what the older kids are building and they gravitate to their side of the room. So we'd show them and teach.
Same with my kid. We'd do like the Monthly Mini Model Builds. He did it up til like 9 years old.
Then didn't want to anymore. I said why, you don't like it.
He was like no, because too many 'little' kids on line.
Kids are social creatures too like us adults. They want to be with the more 'adventurous' crowd.
It's a normal thing.
These 4+ sets are good for grandma, grandpa, mom buying for their kids to that age. But if you take a 4 or 5 year old to any Lego store. They go right to the Star Wars or Ninjago toys and the minifig Bar the most. The areas with duplo or the 4+, you won't see those ages there.

@legoDad42:
So…I’ve bought pretty much all the 4+ DC Superheroes, Incredibles, and Toy Story 4 sets for myself… Hmm.

Adding 10789 and 10790 to my 2023 wishlist. Yes yes.

That Miles Could be transformed to a Kaine Parker btw. It need some longer legs, red arms with black shoulders and bammm!

@Aeturnus79 said:
"horrible rubbish, don't need to dumb down for children.. need to challenge them!"

Sure... but not ALL the time!

I played with my nephews as they got into Duplo and transitioned to System; toddlers need to develop the spacial awareness, mechanical dexterity, and just plain finger strength to push bits together. 4+ (Juniors, then) sets are great for the transition as they become big & playable without too much frustration and help grow those skills - they ARE a challenge for tiny fingers accustomed to the scale of Duplo!

...but sometimes kids can be allowed to just "brrrruuuummmmmm!" a massive red eight-wheeled
juggernaut around the floor (and walls: it is a SPIDER-Bus), no matter their age.

Sometimes I like to challenge myself and needlessly spend a week adding questionably-structural Technic gubbins to Star Wars spaceships' play features; sometimes I just like to build sets from the instructions and swoosh them around the room, which is no challenge at all, but very enjoyable. :-D

Do you challenge yourself in EVERYTHING you do, @Aeturnus79...?

@JDawg5 said:
"That lighthouse set is like a weird fever dream. What is even going on there?!?"

Even villains need a holiday...

I think many of the people who have posted here have never seen the TV show these sets are based on. The Spidey Team Transport in 10791 is actually quite faithful to the source material, as are most of the other vehicles and locations in the sets.

That said, it would have been nice to get minifigures of some of the other featured characters, such as Iron Man, AntMan, Wasp, Black Cat, and Aunt May.

My 4 year-old son loves the Spidey show on Disney+ and would likely love these sets too. ...although it's weird that Ghost Spider doesn't have her hood in 10790 and only that bubble. (I'm pretty sure that set is based on a specific episode.)

When I first saw 10791 I thought it was duplo before taking a second look! 10789 is nothing we haven't already got this year, with minor modifications. We already got Doc Ock and the car in 10783 , only this one has different Spidey printing and a lamppost. I personally think 10783 is better than 10789 . Sandman and Black Panther make minifig appearances in this wave but black Panther should have been given full length legs.

@CCC said:
" @Froggage said:
"I don't know about other people, but my almost 4 y.o. loves these type of sets. He can build them on his own with relatively few problems, and when he plays rough with them a billion tiny pieces don't go falling off. Sure he loves the more complex kits my older kids get, but gets frustrated when all the fiddly bits fly off. Unlike AFOLs most little kids still actually ***play*** with their LEGO. They don't need a perfect display set, they need something they like that can stand up to the rigors of epic super hero battles complete with trips down the basement stairs, mud in the back yard, and underwater journeys in the bathtub.

My son is psyched for these as well as the simple mechs revealed a few days ago.

YMMV, but I am pretty sure the behemoth toy brand has some idea of what they are doing. ;)"

The question in the article was do they appeal to you, not do you think they appeal to 4 year olds. Of course LEGO know what they are doing when aiming sets at 4 tear olds, and that is not making sets that appeal to adults. "

Oh, I understood the question very well. I think a lot of AFOLs that are only focused on their fandom forget how fun it is to see the sets through the eyes of children. I think I enjoy LEGO differently from a lot of other AFOLs because of my 5 kids. I think these sets are appealing because I can see how much fun they will be to play with along with my kids.

So when my son or daughters (or wife) are psyched about a set, it makes it so much more appealing to me.

Not everyone must enjoy every set, but it gets really tiring to hear AFOLs whinging about LEGO catering to their target market. Great, these sets are for little kids, that doesn't make them rubbish, they are perfect for the audience they are aimed at. (Also, these sets are no worse than the sets that many AFOLs moon over from their childhoods, they just can't see it past their nostalgia goggles)

This may not be your attitude, so my comments are not necessarily directed to you.

I should avoid the comment section though, the same vocal minority make the same entitled sounding comments on nearly every set.

The flying fried egg machine looks the most interesting, I will need to have one installed in my letter box before the next round of doorbell canvassing.