10323 PAC-MAN Arcade revealed!

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PAC-MAN Arcade

PAC-MAN Arcade

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It's going to be a busy couple of weeks for news, and especially reviews, in the run-up to June, so let's get started with this revelation:

10323 PAC-MAN Arcade
2,651 pieces, rated 18+
$269.99 / €269.99 / £229.99
Available to VIPs at LEGO.com from 1st June

The LEGO Group and Bandai Namco are celebrating the 43rd anniversary of PAC-MAN with the reveal of the new vintage LEGO ICONS PAC-MAN Arcade set - one of the most famous and nostalgic arcade games of all time.

Originally released on May 22, 1980, by Bandai Namco Entertainment Inc. (previously Namco) in Japan, the PAC-MAN video game became a cultural icon. After 40 years of being a part of pop culture worldwide through games, TV shows, music and more, the LEGO Group has collaborated with Bandai Namco to bring the 80s classic back in brick form. This collaboration led to the unique discovery that PAC-MAN's famous yellow colour was inspired by the LEGO Group's signature colour.


The new LEGO set design shows an arcade version of PAC-MAN and allows you to recreate some of the legendary ghost munching moves of the game. In addition, builders can create large colourful brick versions of PAC-MAN, BLINKY and CLYDE that rotate on a base, and can be displayed on top of the cabinet or separately.

Once complete – you can light up the coin-slot, plus there is a small vignette of a female minifigure playing PAC-MAN on an arcade, hidden inside the cabinet.

PAC-MAN fun facts:

  • On May 22nd 1980, the first focus test was held for PAC-MAN, where members of the public got to see the yellow character for the first time.
  • PAC-MAN is yellow, as designer Mr. Iwatani was inspired by the iconic yellow of the LEGO brick.
  • The character shape is based on a pizza with a slice missing.
  • The game was released in Japan on June 29, 1980 – before being made available in the rest of the world.
  • A PAC-MAN cartoon hit appeared on TV screens in the 80s.
  • Buckner & Garcia released the hit single "PAC-MAN Fever", which went as high as 9th place on Billboard's Hot 100 chart in March 1982.
  • In 1993, Billy Mitchell of Florida became the first person to ever achieve the game's perfect score of 3,333,360 points. In order to achieve a perfect score, the player would have to clear all 256 stages without a single miss, and consume all PAC-DOTs, fruits, and ghosts (consume 4 ghosts with each POWER PELLET).
  • In recognition of PAC-MAN's 1980 release, where it installed 293,822 arcade units within 7 years, the Guinness World Records acknowledged the game as the "Most Successful Coin-Operated Game" in the world.

Describing the process of designing the new set, Sven Franic, LEGO Designer comments: “A cultural icon for the past 40 years, it was a delight to bring PAC-MAN to brick life. We are always looking for new and exciting ways to bring classic gaming experiences to life. Our team of talented designers worked tirelessly to capture the essence of the beloved PAC-MAN arcade machine in brick form, from PAC-MAN himself to the colourful, maze-like environment he inhabits. Every detail was carefully considered and crafted, resulting in a one-of-a-kind LEGO creation that captures the magic of the original game while adding a playful new twist and a couple of Easter eggs – in true video game style. We are thrilled to share this incredible build with the world and cannot wait to see the joy it brings to fans of all ages.”

Adding on the collaboration, Aadil Tayouga, Director of Licensing and Business Strategy at Bandai Namco Europe says: “Bandai Namco and the LEGO group share a lot of common values, notably aiming at providing fun for all people through quality products. In addition to these values, since PAC-MAN yellow was actually inspired by the LEGO Group yellow, it made the connection even more natural. It has been a tremendous collaboration with the passionate teams at the LEGO Group and we hope that fans will enjoy this kit.”

LEGO VIP members will have early access to purchase the LEGO PAC-MAN Arcade set from 1st June 2023 from LEGO.com/PAC-MAN and LEGO Stores, or available to all from 4th June 2023 at the recommended retail price of $269.99 / €269.99 / £229.99 / 349.99 CAD / 399.99 AUD.

You can view more images on the set details page.


Will you be buying this set?

Yes, as soon as it's released
Yes, eventually
Maybe, I haven't made up my mind yet
No, it doesn't interest me
No, it's too expensive
No, but I like it

157 comments on this article

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By in United States,

Oh wow, fun! Really cool.

Don't know about $270 though.

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By in Australia,

Impressive. Most impressive...

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By in Netherlands,

So, is there some sort of function to it? It looks like there's gears behind the 'screen' objects.

Anyway this isn't for me. And I'm going to leave it at that.

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By in Germany,

The idea isn't even that bad, but the price? LEGO are out of their minds!

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By in United States,

Wakka wakka wakka wakka wallet emptying…

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By in United Kingdom,

This is a good year for LEGO sets of videogame franchises. Fingers crossed for Crash Bandicoot...

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By in United States,

I think it looks nice. But despite being the target audience it's not of interest. I guess I find most of their "Adults Welcome" sets not very welcoming.

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By in France,

Waw, just waw. The price too but I understand how it got there with all the functions.

And I loooooooooove the light brick for the coin slot, that's so awesome

I wonder how much it would have cost without the "puppets" and the mini-arcade though....

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By in United Kingdom,

@Binnekamp said:
"So, is there some sort of function to it? It looks like there's gears behind the 'screen' objects.

Anyway this isn't for me. And I'm going to leave it at that."


There’s a video on social media that shows the function, PAC-Man and the ghosts are on a track that moves round the course, it’s really cool

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By in United States,

I can’t make up my mind on this one.
Admittedly I did have an electronic PAC-Man game when I was a kid, but it was a yellow plastic box shaped like a PAC-Man. I got so frustrated with it and yes it eventually got broken. Oops!

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By in Netherlands,

Personally I liked mrs. Pacman better.

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By in South Africa,

I love the mini-arcade.

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By in United Kingdom,

Shame this isn't three separate sets really

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By in Australia,

If you live in Canada, I really envy you: only $50!?

Yeah, I'm sure that's a typo especially when you see the Australian price at $400. For me, this looks like a repeat of the Adidas set from a couple of years ago: for the same price you could have purchased an actual pair of Superstars instead. I did a quick Google and it turns out you can find a Pac-Man 'Counter-Cade' and you can find them down here for about $200-300. I'd rather get one of those compared to a LEGO model that has limited functionality by comparison. The price really hurts in that regard, and the amount of stickers is just insulting.

It's a shame because I really like Pac-Man and the set itself looks really neat. The buildable Blinky and Clyde look excellent (but I don't know why there isn't an option to interchange them with the other two), the vignette and minifig torso is cute, and I have no complaints when it comes down to the displayability of the model. It just comes down to the price and the fact that there's one too many sets on my want list at the moment.

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By in United Kingdom,

Wow. That is quite something.

And as @Nannig says the backlit coin slot is absolute genius.

It seems we still need an auto-button to complain about the cost though and save a lot of people some time.

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By in Australia,

This looks awesome and I really like the fact that the ghosts and PAC-man move, topped off by light up play button.

I have no idea if I'll get this or not (not a theme I collect) - but honestly, it looks just so good.

The price is high - no shock there.

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By in Australia,

Awesome. Day 1 purchase for me.

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By in United Kingdom,

I just want the little one...

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By in United States,

I am a big Pac-Man fan... I have a bunch of collectibles (some vintage) as well as an original cocktail table arcade machine. I must say this set is a mixed bag...

The cabinet shape doesn't correspond to the real thing, the Pac-Man / ghost dots (1x1 tiles) are too small for the playfield, the large ghosts (and even Pac-Man) don't quite look right, and there appear to be large stickers for most (or all) of the branded parts, even the large ghost mouths. The tiles with the blue edge look nice at first, until you notice that the playfield borders are supposed to be longer, without frequent breaks. The mini-scene with the printed minifigure torso might be the best part; would have loved to see that as a small set or even polybag.

Basically this looks like what a third-party brick company (e.g. Pantasy, see their Metal Slug cabinet for $100) might come up with, not a officially licensed product from LEGO. Note that the same could be said about a lot of recent Pac-Man merchandise, i.e. it's all veering pretty far from the source material, to the point of being something else entirely.

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By in Romania,

@roygal said:
"Wakka wakka wakka wakka wallet emptying…"

Pretty authentic to the real coin eating machine.

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By in Singapore,

NES, Atari, PAC-MAN, Surely the natural next set will be..... TETRIS? There's even a movie on it released recently!

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By in United Kingdom,

Never a huge fan. Now if they made a Lego Spectrum or Amiga…..

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By in Australia,

When I first saw the size of this on Instagram I thought it would need to be like $800, but they've made it $400 AU. (another case of ANZAC - Australia New Zealand Auxiliary Cost), but it's much cheaper than I expect. Especially the $270 US price. I want to see how it works. I like that it's presented as an actual arcade, so can be displayed as an arcade and (hopefully) played.

Any chance Lego will ever make a '1942' or '1943' arcade game?

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By in United Kingdom,

@LegoMike said:
"I can’t make up my mind on this one.
Admittedly I did have an electronic PAC-Man game when I was a kid, but it was a yellow plastic box shaped like a PAC-Man. I got so frustrated with it and yes it eventually got broken. Oops!"


I remember that yellow box - my best mate had one. I was never very good at it.

This looks great, if a little spendy.

It's also the least cringe-worthy press release I think I've read from Lego.

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By in Spain,

Lego keeps making those sets but I still don't get it. Why should I buy a Lego replica of something that I can buy for the same money? Not no mention that the real thing would be fully functional.

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By in United Kingdom,

I like it but too much being released that I’d prefer & Lego is out pricing even committed Afols x

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By in Netherlands,

Nice set but more of a display set. Strange the press release does not mention the function. I also see chainlinks.

Are those new white 6x8 printed tiles af the top with the logo?

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By in United Kingdom,

I really like it, looks fantastic, BUT.... £80 will get you a fully functional mini-Pac Man machine (Arcade1Up Collector-cade, similar scale to this set), so I'm struggling to justify the cost.

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By in United Kingdom,

There are roughly 100 blue tiles with a black panel on the front. I really hope they're printed otherwise that's a lot of stickers in this set.
I see quite a lot of stickers elsewhere though...

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By in United Kingdom,

@ChrisUK said:
"There are roughly 100 blue tiles with a black panel on the front. I really hope they're printed otherwise that's a lot of stickers in this set.
I see quite a lot of stickers elsewhere though...
"


There are massive stickers on the side panels.

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By in United Kingdom,

Not something I grew up with or heard about until Friends TV series I think. I understand there's functionality in the set so you can imagine playing it, but I'd rather spend £229.99 on another set thanks.

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By in United Kingdom,

I used to play play Pac-Man on the BBC Micro and it would glitch out when the score got high enough.

Now that I’m thinking about it a friend had a handheld LCD Pac-Man game that was almost unplayable. Ah, the 80’s.

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By in Netherlands,

@8lackmagic said:
"I really like it, looks fantastic, BUT.... £80 will get you a fully functional mini-Pac Man machine (Arcade1Up Collector-cade, similar scale to this set), so I'm struggling to justify the cost."

Pac-Man as a game isn’t that great anymore, so building it with Lego might give you more fun and satisfaction? And it looks cool.

Shame that there are two ghosts m.i.a.

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By in United Kingdom,

I'd buy the brick-built characters, and I'd buy the minifigure scene, but this whole unit? When for around the same money you can buy a fully-working 3/4 size Pac-Man arcade cabinet that'll play 'Galaxians', 'Galaga', 'Dig-Dug' and 'Mappy' as well? That's a bad joke, LEGO.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9596546

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By in United Kingdom,

@Joefish said:
"I'd buy the brick-built characters, and I'd buy the minifigure scene, but this whole unit? When for around the same money you can buy a fully-working 3/4 size Pac-Man arcade cabinet that'll play 'Galaxians', 'Galaga', 'Dig-Dug' and 'Mappy' as well? That's a bad joke, LEGO.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9596546 "


I have that exact unit and, if you have the space, I highly recommend it.

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By in Australia,

Stickers?

In a $400 (Aussie dollar) set?

LOL no.

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By in United Kingdom,

I grew up with pacman and space invaders. I already have 5 16x16 mosaics of pacman and ghosts as a display piece on my office shelf. I might get the parts for the little arcade but the whole set is not that interesting for me. For something that big I prefer it to be useful or good looking.

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By in Netherlands,

Still a big fan of Pac-man, and when discounted I don't think I'll be able to resist this. Very weird the chain function isn't mentioned in the description, as mentioned by Merman.

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By in Moldova,

Never thought that a Pac-man set will be better made and more interesting to me than a Batman one. Don't know if I would buy it, but I definitely live it!

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By in United States,

Really amazing build by the designers and hats off to making this look so true to life. I think when sets like this are released a video showing the movement of the set to understand the functions would go a long way from TLG versus static images.

Personally I would love to get just the mini build and the pac man figures. Lots of new pieces for the first time in this set!

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By in United States,


@Joefish said:
"I'd buy the brick-built characters, and I'd buy the minifigure scene, but this whole unit? When for around the same money you can buy a fully-working 3/4 size Pac-Man arcade cabinet that'll play 'Galaxians', 'Galaga', 'Dig-Dug' and 'Mappy' as well? That's a bad joke, LEGO.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9596546 "

I have that exact unit and, if you have the space, I highly recommend it.

Does anyone know where to find this in the states??

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By in Australia,

I absolutely love this set and its plethora of functions that elevate this one above all its fellow display sets within the theme.
But that price... No-go, LEGO. No-go.

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By in United States,

I think it is an incredible set that no one wants, at a price that is impossible to justify. Weird times.

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By in United States,

My disappointment stems from the inclusion of only Blinky and Clyde.

I think it’s a pretty clever set, but I still see the NES and Atari just warming shelves at my local Target.

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By in United States,

Funny how the press release mentions Billy Mitchell considering that he has had multiple cheating allegations that have led to his records being stripped, and he tries to sue anyone that provides evidence of such.

The arcade machine looks nice! Though it’s kinda weird there are only two ghosts up top.

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By in United Kingdom,

@kkoster79 said:
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@Joefish said:
"...for around the same money you can buy a fully-working 3/4 size Pac-Man arcade cabinet that'll play 'Galaxians', 'Galaga', 'Dig-Dug' and 'Mappy' as well.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9596546 "

Does anyone know where to find this in the states??"


Search for 'Arcade1up' cabinets - they're made in the US and there are several variants with all sorts of games. I understand Walmart sold them for a while, but I don't know enough about US retailers to suggest where else to look. There are Mortal Kombat, Rampage and Street Fighter machines, and some licensed Basketball game. They do a Star Wars one with that classic Atari two-handed yoke (copied from a tank gunner's control!) but in the UK that's around twice the price of this Pac-Man cabinet!

I was all set to buy the Star Wars one from Smyths but for some reason the whole import got cancelled at the last minute. I have since had a GRS reproduction Star Wars yoke imported but I'm now hand-building a table-top MAME unit to fit that on, since the analog control is also good for racing and flying games like OutRun and Space Harrier.

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By in New Zealand,

I like it, it certainly looks the part and it's cool that they've integrated some sort of functionality (plus the "Easter egg" inside) ... and yet it's just not quite there. It's all fine and dandy as a novelty item, but I suspect that the novelty will wear off pretty quickly. Another expensive dust-gatherer.

More annoying though is that it's another in the ever-increasing collection of sets where it's cheaper to buy the actual "thing" rather than the LEGO model. 10282, 10306, 21327, 21332, 21337, ... where will it end?

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By in United Kingdom,

Love the set but there are some inconsistencies with the facts as Billy Mitchell has been revealed as a cheater multiple times, he's become a bit of an infamous goofball due to filing lawsuits against any credible evidence that comes his way and then never following through on them

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By in United States,

Dang, I wish that smaller build was its own set. I like it, but not at that price. Also bummed that this is a June 1 release, because I really want to get a couple of those new Jurassic Park sets, but am now fearful that the initial rush for Pac Man by those with money will overwhelm the website and deny me access to the sets I really want. --sigh-

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By in United Kingdom,

Think they've have been better off just releasing the two additional models. I like the minifig scale cabinet, and the ghost and pacman models, but the large cabinet itself doesn't impress me.

As said above, you can buy an actual gaming cabinet with multiple games on for less then the asking price.

Also, same as mentioned above again about Billy having been stripped of his titles for cheating. I knew about this in the mid 90's. He's partly who Peter Dinklages character in the movie Pixels, who was ultimately revealed as a cheat, was based on.

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By in United States,

Set looks pretty cool! Weird that the press release (or the packaging) doesn't detail the functions more, as they elevate this set from just a decent replica to something more intriguing.

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By in United Kingdom,

Although it was about another classic videogame, Donkey Kong, if anyone's interested in finding out about Billy Mitchell, then I highly recommend you watch the documentary "The King of Kong".

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By in United States,

Seems like another case of "display piece with functions that will get fiddled with for 5 minutes." The price is eye-watering, the sticker dependency is insulting.

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By in United Kingdom,

@Joefish said:
"I'd buy the brick-built characters, and I'd buy the minifigure scene, but this whole unit? When for around the same money you can buy a fully-working 3/4 size Pac-Man arcade cabinet that'll play 'Galaxians', 'Galaga', 'Dig-Dug' and 'Mappy' as well? That's a bad joke, LEGO.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9596546 "


That puts it nicely into perspective. I quite fancy one of those myself!

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By in United States,

LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!

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By in United States,

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

So what if it’s a female figure? Women like and attend arcades too.

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By in United Kingdom,

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

"Forces"...?

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By in Australia,

I’m surprised by the almost complete negativity of all the posters here!

I was born in 1981, so am probably 5-10 years too young to have lived through the initial early-80’s craze … but I’m certainly familiar with the craze and have played the game on more than a couple of different formats & systems.

It’s a beautiful set with some cool features!
And something unique in LEGO right now!
Yes, the stickers and price are downers, but I wasn’t even that shocked or disappointed when I saw the price - compared with some recent releases, it appears almost reasonable!

Come on, AFOL’s …. Be better!
Let’s try spreading positivity for the amazing variety of releases we AFOL’s are being fed!

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By in United States,

For the price I feel like you're better off buying a novelty arcade cabinet that's actually playable.

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By in Switzerland,

@SolidState said:
"For the price I feel like you're better off buying a novelty arcade cabinet that's actually playable."

Not really. I love LEGO and love videogames. But this I would buy for the novelty factor and the building experience. Each to his own I guess.

Now, if the wonderful NewWaveToys would make a mini PacMan arcade that looks like an exact replica of an original, then I would be interested.

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By in United States,

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

That statement along with your username has me concerned. Probably unnecessarily, but nevertheless you may wish to edit ;-)

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By in United States,

So many stickers....

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By in Switzerland,

To those complaining about an overabundance of stickers, I looked at the promo photos and video in detail, and:
- all the blue tiles with black used for the "walls" of the game are 100% certainly prints. I count about 80 of those
- more excitingly, the 3 large white pieces with the PacMan logo on top are 99% certainly prints. I see no sticker edges for those on any of the pictures, and if you watch the video on LEGO.com closely,in the segment about 4 secs in you will see that these seem to be prints on the 6x8 slopes. There is still a small chance I am wrong, but would love to hear what others think
- the 1x1 round tiles with pacman and the ghosts are 100% prints
- the ghost eyes are prints

All the rest seem to be stickers however. I do not mind that too much because on the original those would also be stickers-

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By in Puerto Rico,

Man the memories this brings back....

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By in Switzerland,

@Ridgeheart said:
" @lemish34 said:
"I’m surprised by the almost complete negativity of all the posters here!

I was born in 1981, so am probably 5-10 years too young to have lived through the initial early-80’s craze … but I’m certainly familiar with the craze and have played the game on more than a couple of different formats & systems.

It’s a beautiful set with some cool features!
And something unique in LEGO right now!
Yes, the stickers and price are downers, but I wasn’t even that shocked or disappointed when I saw the price - compared with some recent releases, it appears almost reasonable!

Come on, AFOL’s …. Be better!
Let’s try spreading positivity for the amazing variety of releases we AFOL’s are being fed!"


No? We're allowed our opinions. If those opinions aren't favourable, that is the way it is.

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

What a strange, small hill to die on."


I don't mind criticism, but looking at your comments and those of some other frequent posters here some of you just thrive on negativity. Except when you see knights or pirates, then you suddenly jump up and down with joy.

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By in Italy,

As with the LEGO Atari, I believe many will buy the set for the exclusive minifigure. I would not be surprised if its cost on the secondary market will quickly exceed EUR 50-60,00.

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By in United States,

@roygal said:
"Wakka wakka wakka wakka wallet emptying…"

So, just like a real arcade cabinet, then.

@SuicideSkwad:
I guess the moving track would explain why someone put Pac-Man and some of the ghosts on sideways? Not understanding the subject matter when designing a LEGO set would be pretty sad, but functional limitations of the medium is a different matter. While it might be possible to keep them oriented the same way while traveling around the track, I don’t think it would do the price any favors, and it might make the function prone to jamming.

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By in Germany,

Looks cool, but though I'm old enough for Eighties' nostalgia I am not old enough for Pac Man nostalgia.
Certainly not 270 Euro worth of nostalgia at least.
Still, like the look of it.

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By in United States,

“ We are always looking for new and exciting ways to bring classic gaming experiences to life. ”
Please release a Legends of Zelda castle set. Link, Zelda and Epona figs would be awesome.

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By in United States,

Wow, once again I’m nonplussed by the negativity that greets a new set I think is mostly pretty great. I’m glad it turns out not to have been so spoiled in the comments here the other day as I’d feared; “an arcade machine” really understates what this set is, has, and does. Those functions are very sweet.

As is often the case, the “mostly” leaves room for one nagging issue that I do so wish they’d address for sets like this - stickers! An expensive, adult collector-oriented set like this could really stand to use printed parts for everything. But it does seem to have lots of great prints as well, possibly enough to look really good even without the stickers applied. We’ll see.

Otherwise, it looks fantastic, and I do want it. They hardly needed to hit me with it, since there are already far more sets out now (and at all times, really) that I want than I can afford, but I do love it and want it, and I may well get it. We’ll see…

How wild to learn from a LEGO press release of all places where Pac-Man’s iconic yellow came from! I had no idea. I am edified!

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

Funny, because even at the time Pac-Man was touted as a game that appealed to many women - sometimes in ways that were themselves sexist and insulting (e.g., “women like the simple controls”), but still, this particular game was *always* noted as one with wide demographic appeal (which surely contributed to its iconic status, and the fact they’re still producing merch like this for it 43 years later).

I must say, I am gobsmacked by some fans’ apparent belief that the world has many, many times more men in it than women, and that all LEGO sets must reflect this, and that what few women can be allowed into sets must only ever be portrayed doing nothing interesting, and by how offended such fans get when LEGO doesn’t confirm to those narrow expectations but instead puts a woman minifigure somewhere.

I remember thinking years ago when LEGO Dimensions was coming out that the gamer kid in the Midway Arcade Level Pack should have been female, to help alleviate some of the game’s massive gender disparity in the character roster; it would have been so easy with a nonspecific generic character like that, but they kept him male anyway. They kept the Atari kid in the VCS a boy, too. Men and boys are abundantly well-represented throughout LEGO’s sets in general, and yet it’s still never enough; some dudes’ masculinity is so fragile that having girls anywhere is the end of the world. Man, I feel so sorry for them. So, so sorry.

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By in United Kingdom,

If one could move the chain around by waggling the joystick rather than reaching around the side to turn the crank, then it might have been a fun trip down memory lane.
Also, are there spare stickers for customising the top scorer's name? (I'm asking on behalf of my friends BUM and POO)

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By in Switzerland,

@Ridgeheart said:
" @MrBedhead said:
" @Ridgeheart said:
" @lemish34 said:
"I’m surprised by the almost complete negativity of all the posters here!

I was born in 1981, so am probably 5-10 years too young to have lived through the initial early-80’s craze … but I’m certainly familiar with the craze and have played the game on more than a couple of different formats & systems.

It’s a beautiful set with some cool features!
And something unique in LEGO right now!
Yes, the stickers and price are downers, but I wasn’t even that shocked or disappointed when I saw the price - compared with some recent releases, it appears almost reasonable!

Come on, AFOL’s …. Be better!
Let’s try spreading positivity for the amazing variety of releases we AFOL’s are being fed!"


No? We're allowed our opinions. If those opinions aren't favourable, that is the way it is.

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

What a strange, small hill to die on."


I don't mind criticism, but looking at your comments and those of some other frequent posters here some of you just thrive on negativity. Except when you see knights or pirates, then you suddenly jump up and down with joy.
"


See, this would be creepy if you were any better at following me. I don't think I've made a single effort to jump for anything other than Dreamzzz, Space and increasingly as of late, Friends, so I don't know what you're even on about.

I don't mind if you think this lowly of me, my dude. For my part, I don't even think of you at all."


Wow, got out of bed with the wrong leg, dude? No need to come on so negatively, aggressively and insultingly, dude. I was merely pointing out that some, maybe not you, but some users here just love to complain and complain only, dude.

And then some people here act surprised that other users have requested a blocking feature. Not that I would block you, since you clearly are not worthy of that, dude.

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By in United States,

43rd anniversary seems random, but okay! Not complaining!

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By in United States,

I think it's funny that people are whining about the decals on the sides of this set being stickers when they would've been decals on a real cabinet as well... plus the fact that the "screen" decorations are pretty much ALL printed pieces (at least 10 different printed elements for the "maze", characters, and cherry).

It's not surprising for sticker haters to miss the forest for the trees, but it is pretty silly in this case.

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By in Netherlands,

Continuous overpricing and overreliance on stickers in the super-prestigious, adult-oriented sets results in continuous negativity in the comments, who would have thought. I get that it's tiring to some, but so is... continuous overpricing and overreliance on stickers in the super-prestigious, adult-oriented sets.
As per usual with sets like that, not my cup of tea, but the functions seem really well done. And I love that minifig.

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By in United States,

Designer: at $270 we can print a quarter on the tile right?
TLG: nope that's out of budget.

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@Blondie_Wan said:
"I must say, I am gobsmacked by some fans’ apparent belief that the world has many, many times more men in it than women, and that all LEGO sets must reflect this, and that what few women can be allowed into sets must only ever be portrayed doing nothing interesting, and by how offended such fans get when LEGO doesn’t confirm to those narrow expectations but instead puts a woman minifigure somewhere.
"


In reading the Brickset comments section, I've learned a great many people think that there are literally ZERO

- Female construction workers
- Female Stormtroopers
- Female moving company employees
- Female truck drivers
- Female video gamers
- Female firefighters
- Female criminals
- Female warriors, medieval or otherwise
- Female scientists
- Female AFOLs

And GOD help us if a set has anywhere approaching 50-50 male-female parity. Then it's time for the "Go Woke Go Broke" crowd to show up as they berate Lego for daring to reflect the real world that they try so STRIDENTLY to avoid interacting with.

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By in United States,

The maze wall tiles with printed edges will be highly coveted for many MOC designs.

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By in United States,

@LegoMike:
I, too, had a Pac-Man game as a kid (technically it belonged to the family), but they already made the Atari 2600 console. Except ours was the solid black version. I wasn’t given a woodgrain console until I had my first PC, with all the X-Wing games, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, the King’s Quest games…

@darthmar:
Ms. Pac-Man actually was historically a much more popular game, and I don’t remember exactly why (I didn’t have the quarters to frequent arcades, and the Pac-Man games weren’t really my thing anyways). One thing I know it benefited from was advancements in graphics. Nobody went back and reissued updated versions of games, when it was just as easy to make sequels and spin-offs.

@SillyTwig:
I do remember scratching my head over the idea of making a movie based on the Tetris game, but then I saw the trailers and it all made sense. It’s not a movie that’s set within the game world, but rather the actual story behind the marketing of the game (specifically how it came to be bundled with the first Gameboy). So, no anthropomorphized Tetrominos fighting for world dominance.

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By in Netherlands,

@ToyTownBreakDown said:
"The maze wall tiles with printed edges will be highly coveted for many MOC designs."
Not that it'd change the desirability of those pieces, but they're actually blue tiles with black blocks printed on them, not black tiles with printed blue edges.

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By in United States,

@SolidState said:
"For the price I feel like you're better off buying a novelty arcade cabinet that's actually playable."

How would you build with that and incorporate its parts into other LEGO creations, then?

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By in United States,

Sets like this weird me out. Who has been asking for these kinds of sets? It doesn't make me think LEGO.

I can imagine this interesting about one in every ten customers that walks into a Lego shop. Change my mind.

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By in United States,

This looks like a wonderful set. The actual game-play function is my favorite part.

I wish they would have removed the mini-arcade, made it a GWP exclusively for the Pac-Man set, and then lowered the price of the set a little. Oh well.

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By in United States,

I like the set, and it brings back a lot of Pac-Man memories from my childhood, but $270 is pretty steep. I'll only pick this up with a double points promotion, if it goes on sale, or if there's an excellent GWP promo.
The Nintendo set at least had some level of interactivity built in, whereas this set, and the Atari set, sit very flat.

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By in United States,

For US$270 at least we could get are more Bonus Fruit choices than Cherry, and all the ghost maquette options for the top instead of only Blinky and Clyde.

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By in United Kingdom,

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

Gender neutral torso, so no problem to switch heads and hair.

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By in United Kingdom,

@ItsTwentyBelow said:
"Sets like this weird me out. Who has been asking for these kinds of sets? It doesn't make me think LEGO.

I can imagine this interesting about one in every ten customers that walks into a Lego shop. Change my mind."


I'd be surprised if 1 in 10 buy it. But the same can be said for most sets, whether UCS Star Wars, Rivendell, Black Panther, Roller-coaster, etc.

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By in United States,

I've been around: I played Pong when it was new. Never played this one (Galaga and Joust here), but this looks awesome.

Like I said, I've been around: I bought 133 when it was new, and the price tag/sticker (still on it) says $17.99 ($1 more than retail!). Plug that through an inflation converter.

TL/DR: Lego is expensive.

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
" @darthmar:
Ms. Pac-Man actually was historically a much more popular game, and I don’t remember exactly why (I didn’t have the quarters to frequent arcades, and the Pac-Man games weren’t really my thing anyways). One thing I know it benefited from was advancements in graphics. Nobody went back and reissued updated versions of games, when it was just as easy to make sequels and spin-offs."


In the original Pac-Man, there’s one maze design, and the ghosts each have preset behaviors that determine what each will do in a given situation. Ms. Pac-Man cycles through four different maze designs, and the ghosts have different, partially randomized behavior. It’s possible for a good player to memorize patterns on the original and stick to them, playing a perfect game; this first sequel is more varied and arguably tougher, and generally considered a better game, though of course the original is the original.

@mirkwoodspiders said:
"I wish they would have removed the mini-arcade, made it a GWP exclusively for the Pac-Man set, and then lowered the price of the set a little. Oh well. "

I can definitely see the appeal of the mini-arcade as a set in its own right, but I’m glad it’s not a GWP. While I am occasionally able to get big sets like this I am seldom able to buy them right at their introduction during whatever narrow window they may come with a set-specific GWP that complements them perfectly, and consequently I usually miss out on such things (like Eiffel’s Apartment). I’m very glad that whether I get this set as soon as it’s released, when it’s being retired, or at any point in between, I’ll get the little arcade build.

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By in United States,

@ItsTwentyBelow said:
"Sets like this weird me out. Who has been asking for these kinds of sets? It doesn't make me think LEGO.

I can imagine this interesting about one in every ten customers that walks into a Lego shop. Change my mind."


One in every ten is actually a lot. I'm not sure there’s any LEGO set that interests that high a percentage of the total customer base. Certainly a set doesn’t need to interest that many in order to be a success.

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By in United Kingdom,

I don’t know about this one, I really don’t. I love the idea and the mechanism looks nicely done. But I can’t help feeling like this is an excellent fan model that I’d spend time looking over at a show, but it’s not something I’d fork out for to sit on a shelf. The brickheadz sized characters are nice, and I can see why they’ve included them here rather than being a separate set. But they’re not enough to convince me to part with my money. The so-called exclusive minifigs are a mug’s game; you don’t go down that path unless you are truly prepared to lose your shirt. I’m certainly not about to spend upwards of £200 on the basis of a printed torso made from rocking horse poo.

So on balance I’m feeling like I do want to play with this, but possibly only once. So I’ll wait for a friend to buy one to show me. Or not at all.

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By in United States,

Not at all saying the price isn't steep for what this is, but at at the same time... just like with the Atari set, I guess I still don't understand the comments that are saying "for that price you could get a real console/machine instead."

If I like Pac-Man, and I like Lego, then I'm buying this for the experience of building Pac-Man out of Lego—simple as that.

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By in United States,

Purists, look away now!

Plenty of space in that cabinet for something like an rpi0 with a speaker to play the game's music ^_-

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By in Poland,

Stuff like this makes me sad.

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By in United States,

This looks really nice! I love that they didn't cheap out and actually recreated the maze faithful to the real thing. I think the separate stand off would have been more fun in a smaller "mini fig scale" (we have the parts to make Pac-man from quarter-circle 1x1 tiles and the ghosts could have been stickers) a la a UCS placard. This would have allowed all four ghosts. Presumably it's the size it is so it can fit on top of the arcade unit. Also super impressive that there's motion, very much looking forward to seeing how that works.

Very nice looking. Not for me (which I'm kinda thankful for), but really enjoying the video game kick Lego's been on lately. EDIT: seeing more information elsewhere, I think I -am- going to need to get this one... sigh.

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By in United Kingdom,

@gorillax said:
" @WemWem said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
"I must say, I am gobsmacked by some fans’ apparent belief that the world has many, many times more men in it than women, and that all LEGO sets must reflect this, and that what few women can be allowed into sets must only ever be portrayed doing nothing interesting, and by how offended such fans get when LEGO doesn’t confirm to those narrow expectations but instead puts a woman minifigure somewhere.
"


In reading the Brickset comments section, I've learned a great many people think that there are literally ZERO

- Female construction workers
- Female Stormtroopers
- Female moving company employees
- Female truck drivers
- Female video gamers
- Female firefighters
- Female criminals
- Female warriors, medieval or otherwise
- Female scientists
- Female AFOLs

And GOD help us if a set has anywhere approaching 50-50 male-female parity. Then it's time for the "Go Woke Go Broke" crowd to show up as they berate Lego for daring to reflect the real world that they try so STRIDENTLY to avoid interacting with."


because this does not reflect the real world at all, anybody who went to the arcades back then know that it was almost 99% male, there are some things that appeal to males more than females, and vice versa, not everything is always 50/50
"


Yes you are right, the arcades were 99% male back then, but that's a problem, not something that should be celebrated. It is possible to enjoy the nostalgia of one of the most important video games ever without reinforcing the problems of the past. Having a more balanced approach to gender, race, religion etc can only be a good thing

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@gorillax said:
" @WemWem said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
"I must say, I am gobsmacked by some fans’ apparent belief that the world has many, many times more men in it than women, and that all LEGO sets must reflect this, and that what few women can be allowed into sets must only ever be portrayed doing nothing interesting, and by how offended such fans get when LEGO doesn’t confirm to those narrow expectations but instead puts a woman minifigure somewhere.
"


In reading the Brickset comments section, I've learned a great many people think that there are literally ZERO

- Female construction workers
- Female Stormtroopers
- Female moving company employees
- Female truck drivers
- Female video gamers
- Female firefighters
- Female criminals
- Female warriors, medieval or otherwise
- Female scientists
- Female AFOLs

And GOD help us if a set has anywhere approaching 50-50 male-female parity. Then it's time for the "Go Woke Go Broke" crowd to show up as they berate Lego for daring to reflect the real world that they try so STRIDENTLY to avoid interacting with."


because this does not reflect the real world at all, anybody who went to the arcades back then know that it was almost 99% male, there are some things that appeal to males more than females, and vice versa, not everything is always 50/50
"


A) Even if it’s generally true arcades back then generally attracted more men than women, 99% is a great exaggeration. I'm old; I was there; I know.

B) This is not a general arcade set but specifically a Pac-Man set. Pac-Man in particular was noted even at the time as a game that appealed more equally to men and women; it was in fact specifically intended to be.

C) Even if Pac-Man’s players were 99% male (and again, they weren’t, but put that aside for a moment), it was still played by literally millions of people. 1% of even one million is ten thousand. I unconditionally assure you there have been many, many women players of Pac-Man.

D) This player’s womanhood is signified entirely by the face print (and then only by the subtle detail of the eyelashes) and the chosen hair element, itself a hairstyle traditionally but not even really exclusively male (I’m a guy myself, and as it happens that particular Elsa Schneider / Veronica Lake-style hair is possibly the closest match for my own hair right now, as my hair is quite long at the moment). If it really bothers you SO MUCH that a *giiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrl* is getting her cooties all over your manly man’s game, you can very easily just imagine her to be a guy, or alternately replace the hair and head with more overtly masculine equivalents of the type I’m sure most people here have hundreds of in their inventories.

E) It’s funny how you seem hyper-fixated on the sex of the player on the basis of it not being representative of the typical player of the era, when nothing else about the arcade is similarly typical. There were surely many Pac-Man cabinets situated in similar proximity to gumball machines and trash receptacles, but were over half of them positioned exactly so? Do you assert that a solid *majority* of all such machines were placed on that exact pattern of blue floor tiles? Not one person has breathed a word about those, just about the sex / gender of the player - but any commercial arcade game in a public space would typically be played by many, many players over its operational life, including people of all sexes and genders, races, and ages, with various styles of attire, etc.

F) Retro video gamer dudes are already present in other sets (the Atari VCS, the LEGO Dimensions Midway Arcade Level Pack, etc.). Why should *every* minifigure player of old videogames be the same sex?

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By in United States,

You can buy one of those half-sized Pac-Man cabinets with the actual game on it for half the price of this set.

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@pecadorl:
So don’t buy it. You aren’t required to buy every set they release. That goes for everyone who is expressing similar thoughts.

@Fandabidozi:
That was a bit of lazy coding. That bit about Billy Mitchell being the first to post the “perfect score” is deceptive. There is no perfect score because there’s no end to the game. It just cycles through the boards and increases the speed until you can’t keep up. Except sometimes people can. In these cases, there’s a counter in the program that exceeds its capacity and causes the game to glitch out, rendering it effectively unplayable, all because of hardware limitations and bad code. In Ms. Pac-Man, the maximum high score is the result of more lazy coding, where eating even one more dot will wrap your score back down to zero.

@PixelTheDragon:
Guinness stripped his record, but has since restored it. They originally took it away on the basis that he’d previously submitted two scores that were ruled to have been achieved with doctored circuit boards, but apparently nobody has proved he actually did it with Pac-Man.

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@PurpleDave said:
" @SillyTwig:
I do remember scratching my head over the idea of making a movie based on the Tetris game, but then I saw the trailers and it all made sense. It’s not a movie that’s set within the game world, but rather the actual story behind the marketing of the game (specifically how it came to be bundled with the first Gameboy). So, no anthropomorphized Tetrominos fighting for world dominance. "


There's been more than one parody movie trailer made for Tetris over the years that might be worth finding on youtube. The one from Black20 was the one I remembered--it's wonderfully bad!

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@KumataJDG said:
"This is a good year for LEGO sets of videogame franchises. Fingers crossed for Crash Bandicoot..."

It’s funny; I remember frequenting Eurobricks when LEGO CUUSOO became LEGO Ideas, and seeing people discuss various Ideas projects that came up, including videogame projects, and there were one or two people who always shot down such things as wildly unlikely to be approved (despite Minecraft obviously being a huge success). Minecraft notwithstanding, they might even have been right at the time… but since then, things have clearly changed. Just at the moment - not even talking about all videogame stuff they’ve done since then, but just what’s available right now - there are entire themes based around Nintendo / Super Mario, Sonic the Hedgehog, and of course Minecraft (still! After a solid decade!), plus individual sets based on the Atari VCS and the Horizon games, and now here’s this. Video gaming in general is represented in other themes like City, Minifigures, and Friends. If ever LEGO was skittish about doing sets based on videogames, they’ve clearly changed their stance in a big way.

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@Blondie_Wan said:
" @gorillax said:
" @WemWem said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
"I must say, I am gobsmacked by some fans’ apparent belief that the world has many, many times more men in it than women, and that all LEGO sets must reflect this, and that what few women can be allowed into sets must only ever be portrayed doing nothing interesting, and by how offended such fans get when LEGO doesn’t confirm to those narrow expectations but instead puts a woman minifigure somewhere.
"


In reading the Brickset comments section, I've learned a great many people think that there are literally ZERO

- Female construction workers
- Female Stormtroopers
- Female moving company employees
- Female truck drivers
- Female video gamers
- Female firefighters
- Female criminals
- Female warriors, medieval or otherwise
- Female scientists
- Female AFOLs

And GOD help us if a set has anywhere approaching 50-50 male-female parity. Then it's time for the "Go Woke Go Broke" crowd to show up as they berate Lego for daring to reflect the real world that they try so STRIDENTLY to avoid interacting with."


because this does not reflect the real world at all, anybody who went to the arcades back then know that it was almost 99% male, there are some things that appeal to males more than females, and vice versa, not everything is always 50/50
"


A) Even if it’s generally true arcades back then generally attracted more men than women, 99% is a great exaggeration. I'm old; I was there; I know.

B) This is not a general arcade set but specifically a Pac-Man set. Pac-Man in particular was noted even at the time as a game that appealed more equally to men and women; it was in fact specifically intended to be.

C) Even if Pac-Man’s players were 99% male (and again, they weren’t, but put that aside for a moment), it was still played by literally millions of people. 1% of even one million is ten thousand. I unconditionally assure you there have been many, many women players of Pac-Man.

D) This player’s womanhood is signified entirely by the face print (and then only by the subtle detail of the eyelashes) and the chosen hair element, itself a hairstyle traditionally but not even really exclusively male (I’m a guy myself, and as it happens that particular Elsa Schneider / Veronica Lake-style hair is possibly the closest match for my own hair right now, as my hair is quite long at the moment). If it really bothers you SO MUCH that a *giiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrl* is getting her cooties all over your manly man’s game, you can very easily just imagine her to be a guy, or alternately replace the hair and head with more overtly masculine equivalents of the type I’m sure most people here have hundreds of in their inventories.

E) It’s funny how you seem hyper-fixated on the sex of the player on the basis of it not being representative of the typical player of the era, when nothing else about the arcade is similarly typical. There were surely many Pac-Man cabinets situated in similar proximity to gumball machines and trash receptacles, but were over half of them positioned exactly so? Do you assert that a solid *majority* of all such machines were placed on that exact pattern of blue floor tiles? Not one person has breathed a word about those, just about the sex / gender of the player - but any commercial arcade game in a public space would typically be played by many, many players over its operational life, including people of all sexes and genders, races, and ages, with various styles of attire, etc.

F) Retro video gamer dudes are already present in other sets (the Atari VCS, the LEGO Dimensions Midway Arcade Level Pack, etc.). Why should *every* minifigure player of old videogames be the same sex?"


Amen.

I just wish that this was not necessary anymore. We are in the 21st century after all and should have evolved enough as a species to find it ok that girls play videogames. Sigh.

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By in United States,

For much money, just buy the Arcade1Up Partycade and PLAY Pac-man.
But it is a cool idea.

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By in United States,

This looks to be a fun novelty set, but that's a lot of $$$ to shell out for a fun novelty set!

I personally prefer minifig-scale sets, so my feelings about this (disregarding the price) are similar to my feelings about 10306: this would have been a lot more attractive to me had they focused on a nostalgia-infused display with minifigs.

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By in Netherlands,

Pretty cool! Not perfect, but for most part I do quite like it!

I had seen the leaked images, but I was worried it would be too small to have a functioning mechanism. Very cool that they managed to do that, very curious how they did it and it seems like there are some interesting new parts involved.

And overall it just looks great, with some neat details like the coin slot. I'm also okay with the side builds, although I do feel the miniature version could as well have been a separate set (GWP?). But compared to the Atari it feels a lot less like filler material just to meet a price point.

I'm even somewhat okay with the price: It's certainly not cheap but it doesn't seem that outlandish. With a bit of a discount I could see myself buying this.

The one thing I don't like is pretty obvious: despite many prints still a bunch of stickers, and not for the first time several of those look bad even in these promotional pictures. I think at this price point they should have gone the extra mile and made them all prints. And if they truly can't get the colors right, at least do clear backed stickers....

But other than that, pretty cool!

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By in United States,

I am the Pac-Man generation. I had just gotten old enough to bike with my friends to the nearby convivence store that had a small room with a handful of arcade games from Asteroids to Pac-Man. I had pac-Man on teh first at home arcade system that Atari released and I have invested MANY hours in to this game and I am not seeing $270 in value in this set. I still hope TLG doesn't loose money on this I just don't see how it was a wise build. That's close to $300 after tax and when you look at what you've got it's hard for me to see it being worth that much.

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By in United States,

It looks great. I just don't have any nostalgia for Pac-Man being a late 80's born kid. I'm not a fan of all the large stickers in such an expensive set.

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@PurpleDave said:
" @pecadorl:
So don’t buy it. You aren’t required to buy every set they release. That goes for everyone who is expressing similar thoughts.

@Fandabidozi:
That was a bit of lazy coding. That bit about Billy Mitchell being the first to post the “perfect score” is deceptive. There is no perfect score because there’s no end to the game. It just cycles through the boards and increases the speed until you can’t keep up. Except sometimes people can. In these cases, there’s a counter in the program that exceeds its capacity and causes the game to glitch out, rendering it effectively unplayable, all because of hardware limitations and bad code. In Ms. Pac-Man, the maximum high score is the result of more lazy coding, where eating even one more dot will wrap your score back down to zero.

@PixelTheDragon:
Guinness stripped his record, but has since restored it. They originally took it away on the basis that he’d previously submitted two scores that were ruled to have been achieved with doctored circuit boards, but apparently nobody has proved he actually did it with Pac-Man."


The reason I call out Mitchell in particular is because he has a history of supposedly faking records. In my opinion, he should be stripped of all records because now he has lost all credibility in this space. Other people who have achieved the perfect score deserve credit for doing such.

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By in United States,

@Ridgeheart said:
" @Blondie_Wan :
I met my first serious girlfriend in the arcades, where she very seriously beat my ass at Soul Calibur, several times in a row. It was dark, and people were mostly fixated on the blinky bleepy bloopy attract-modes, but I -think- the general population (in those arcades) was at least 25% female back then? Possibly more. Just so many bleeps and bloops.

@ra226 :
If we lived in a better time-line, I'd be happy to link to "Complete History Of The Soviet Union, Arranged To The Melody Of Tetris", which was as catchy as it was concise. Right now - nah, best not.

@PurpleDave :
Mitchell's situation is still kind of a hot potato. Guinness have reinstated his titles, but TwinGalaxies, who audit these scores, still refuse to acknowledge his titles to this day. The thing is, there just wasn't any conclusive evidence that he cheated or tampered at either Donkey Kong or Pac-Man at the time.

Breaking news earlier this year suggested that he may have used a custom-cabinet for DK after all, but while investigating further and checking to see how deep the rabbit-hole goes I grew bored and took the dog for walkies instead. What? I don't get paid for this."


There is evidence of him conspiring to fake world records. Check out Karl Jobst on YouTube. He covers the whole saga pretty well.

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By in United States,

That's not a "Hill to die own" but a comment and I find it a rather bizarre one since it followed "We're allowed our opinions. If those opinions aren't favorable, that is the way it is."

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By in United States,

@Blondie_Wan said:
"Wow, once again I’m nonplussed by the negativity that greets a new set I think is mostly pretty great. I’m glad it turns out not to have been so spoiled in the comments here the other day as I’d feared; “an arcade machine” really understates what this set is, has, and does. Those functions are very sweet.

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

Funny, because even at the time Pac-Man was touted as a game that appealed to many women - sometimes in ways that were themselves sexist and insulting (e.g., “women like the simple controls”), but still, this particular game was *always* noted as one with wide demographic appeal (which surely contributed to its iconic status, and the fact they’re still producing merch like this for it 43 years later).

I must say, I am gobsmacked by some fans’ apparent belief that the world has many, many times more men in it than women, and that all LEGO sets must reflect this, and that what few women can be allowed into sets must only ever be portrayed doing nothing interesting, and by how offended such fans get when LEGO doesn’t confirm to those narrow expectations but instead puts a woman minifigure somewhere.

I remember thinking years ago when LEGO Dimensions was coming out that the gamer kid in the Midway Arcade Level Pack should have been female, to help alleviate some of the game’s massive gender disparity in the character roster; it would have been so easy with a nonspecific generic character like that, but they kept him male anyway. They kept the Atari kid in the VCS a boy, too. Men and boys are abundantly well-represented throughout LEGO’s sets in general, and yet it’s still never enough; some dudes’ masculinity is so fragile that having girls anywhere is the end of the world. Man, I feel so sorry for them. So, so sorry."


The world in general has no such belief regarding there being more men that women. the fact is that there are slightly more females on the planet than males which is only logical/natural from a biological perspective with how human pro-creation works.

As for how many women are in certain careers, that belief comes from reality. Most construction workers are male. Doesn't mean they all are just enough that the small percentage who are not are just that a very , very small percent and there's nothing any more wrong with that than men representing a small percentage of nurses. Males and females are drawn to different careers so some fields will have a more equitable a balance between the 2 while others will not. As for why this started in teh first place it's because instead of including both a male and female mini-fig TLG provided a female fig and that is not authentically representing the era. Yes arcades had girls but they were the few as it was primarily boys that flooded/funded arcades in teh 80's the decade of Pac-Man. We're we not seeing numerous examples of efforts in society to push false narratives about the roles males and females' have traditionally portrayed I doubt anyone would have said much about this but we are and so they did and they have a valid point. At $270 they should have provided a boy and a girl minifig.

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By in United States,

I just want the little minifig arcade for when they make more stranger things legos…

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By in Switzerland,

@Bubba said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
"Wow, once again I’m nonplussed by the negativity that greets a new set I think is mostly pretty great. I’m glad it turns out not to have been so spoiled in the comments here the other day as I’d feared; “an arcade machine” really understates what this set is, has, and does. Those functions are very sweet.

@followsclosely said:
"LEGO once again forces a female fig into a set. From my recollection of arcades in the 80: 95% male. Cool fig!"

Funny, because even at the time Pac-Man was touted as a game that appealed to many women - sometimes in ways that were themselves sexist and insulting (e.g., “women like the simple controls”), but still, this particular game was *always* noted as one with wide demographic appeal (which surely contributed to its iconic status, and the fact they’re still producing merch like this for it 43 years later).

I must say, I am gobsmacked by some fans’ apparent belief that the world has many, many times more men in it than women, and that all LEGO sets must reflect this, and that what few women can be allowed into sets must only ever be portrayed doing nothing interesting, and by how offended such fans get when LEGO doesn’t confirm to those narrow expectations but instead puts a woman minifigure somewhere.

I remember thinking years ago when LEGO Dimensions was coming out that the gamer kid in the Midway Arcade Level Pack should have been female, to help alleviate some of the game’s massive gender disparity in the character roster; it would have been so easy with a nonspecific generic character like that, but they kept him male anyway. They kept the Atari kid in the VCS a boy, too. Men and boys are abundantly well-represented throughout LEGO’s sets in general, and yet it’s still never enough; some dudes’ masculinity is so fragile that having girls anywhere is the end of the world. Man, I feel so sorry for them. So, so sorry."


The world in general has no such belief regarding there being more men that women. the fact is that there are slightly more females on the planet than males which is only logical/natural from a biological perspective with how human pro-creation works.

As for how many women are in certain careers, that belief comes from reality. Most construction workers are male. Doesn't mean they all are just enough that the small percentage who are not are just that a very , very small percent and there's nothing any more wrong with that than men representing a small percentage of nurses. Males and females are drawn to different careers so some fields will have a more equitable a balance between the 2 while others will not. As for why this started in teh first place it's because instead of including both a male and female mini-fig TLG provided a female fig and that is not authentically representing the era. Yes arcades had girls but they were the few as it was primarily boys that flooded/funded arcades in teh 80's the decade of Pac-Man. We're we not seeing numerous examples of efforts in society to push false narratives about the roles males and females' have traditionally portrayed I doubt anyone would have said much about this but we are and so they did and they have a valid point. At $270 they should have provided a boy and a girl minifig. "


Boo-effing-hoo. LEGO decided to include a girl minifig in a a videogame set and not a boy and our American friend Bubba does not like it. Why? Because girls do not play videogames sir! At least not in the era the set depicts! At least not in his twisted mind. And at least not in majority. We do not care about diversity! We want what Bubba wants!

Djeez, this comment and the argument behind it is so sad that I do not even want to argue where it gloriously fails. What it does show is that Bubba does not like that LEGO portrays women playing videogames because that does not fit into his alphamale/alphanumeric mind.

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By in United States,

Yeah, you can buy a working one for less, but you know what's cool about this one?

It's made out of Lego.

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By in United States,

Who's going to pay $270 for this?

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By in Switzerland,

@gorillax said:
" @Robibani said:
"Yes you are right, the arcades were 99% male back then, but that's a problem, not something that should be celebrated. It is possible to enjoy the nostalgia of one of the most important video games ever without reinforcing the problems of the past. Having a more balanced approach to gender, race, religion etc can only be a good thing"

they're trying to sell a product based on nostalgia by overlooking the main demographic that would be nostalgic over it, if that makes sense to LEGO then good luck
"


Wow, you are so out of touch with current reality, that you you can barely see reality at the horizon. Reality is not even a line for you, it is a dot! Dear lord! I have never seen someone so out of touch with reality! Get a doctor in the room!

In all seriousness, the fact that your brain is activated and ticked off because the minifig in this set is a girl and not a boy is just sad. It is so so so so sad that even 60 years after the 60s and all the fights for equality we still have people like you and your tiny brain being ticked off by a toy company that dares to portray a girl playing videogames. Boy, if I were a girl and you would be my daddy, I would not be the happiest girl in the world

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By in United Kingdom,

How difficult would it have been for Lego to have included all four ghosts?

Every model these days feels like there was a shortcut made.

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By in United Kingdom,

@MugenLazlo said:
"Who's going to pay $270 for this?"
Me. Well £230 anyway. It's fantastic!

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By in United States,

@kkoster79 said:
"
@Joefish said:
"I'd buy the brick-built characters, and I'd buy the minifigure scene, but this whole unit? When for around the same money you can buy a fully-working 3/4 size Pac-Man arcade cabinet that'll play 'Galaxians', 'Galaga', 'Dig-Dug' and 'Mappy' as well? That's a bad joke, LEGO.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9596546 "

I have that exact unit and, if you have the space, I highly recommend it.

Does anyone know where to find this in the states??"


I was interested too - a quick Google search shows this model (Pac-Man) at Best Buy, and Ms. Pac Man at Best Buy and Amazon. Now where to put it...

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By in United States,

@jungarsixtyfour said:
"Not at all saying the price isn't steep for what this is, but at at the same time... just like with the Atari set, I guess I still don't understand the comments that are saying "for that price you could get a real console/machine instead."

If I like Pac-Man, and I like Lego, then I'm buying this for the experience of building Pac-Man out of Lego—simple as that."


Just like the Atari and Nintendo sets, I'll be grabbing this one when I can get it at about 50% off.

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By in United States,

I was there in the arcades when they began. I remember enjoying them because there were girls there, at least 30-40%. If there weren't, I wouldn't have been interested in hanging around. Girls and video games. Ah, I can almost smell the cherry lip gloss!

Incels... calm down. The world is more interesting if it doesn't continually reflect your image. You'll still exist even if you don't see endless reflections of yourself everywhere. But... you might have to work a little bit harder. Time to put down the controller, and climb out of mama's basement.

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By in United States,

@Blondie_Wan:
And the so-called original five LEGO colors are what they reduced their color palette down to because someone’s wife (I think Godtfred?) suggested, being a fan of Piet Mondrian’s work. Mondrian was one of the most important names in the “de Stijl” art movement, and eventually decided to limit himself to the three primary colors (red, yellow, blue), the three primary values (black, grey, white), and the two primary directions that can be most easily represented in 2D art (horizontal and vertical). Another name for “de Stijl” is Neoplasticism. So, full circle?

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By in United States,

@Capybara554321:
There may have been concerns with being accused of counterfieting if they made a print or sticker based on a quarter. In truth, as long as it's not the same size, or not the same color, or it's not a direct copy of the pattern, you should be fine. George Washington as a minifig would have been a good way to avoid legal issues.

@ItsTwentyBelow:
If you can even _interest_ one in every ten customers who walk into a LEGO Store, you've probably got a contendor for Toy of the Year. If you can actually sell it to that many, expect to see piles of that set in each store before too long.

@Blondie_Wan:
I've really only played Pac-Man on the 2600, which I understand was a dumbed-down version of the arcade game. I could have sworn it had more than one board, though.

Anyways, funny you should bring up the gumball machine. What the heck kind of moron arcade owner puts a gumball machine on the premises? You know that not one single piece of that gum is going to leave the arcade floor unless someone accidentally swallows it.

@jungarsixtyfour:
Don't forget, if you get tired of it, you can always part it out. Good luck doing that with a real arcade cabinet.

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By in United States,

@gorillax:
While it's true that arcades ended up being dominated by boys, it does appear that this game was popular with females, hence the choice for Ms. Pac-Man as the sequel. I'd also venture a guess that the boys who frequented arcades were a large part of the reason there may have been such a gender imbalance. My impression of that crowd was that they often had no desire to share their space with the opposite sex...or that they were far too interested in doing so.

@WizardOfOss:
Given how paperweighty these models tend to appear to be, I just assume they're going to find some gimmick they can add to spice things up. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if there's some sort of ongoing competition between the various set designers to see who can outdo all their coworkers.

@Ridgeheart:
As long as Guinness has restored his record, it doesn't surprise me that he got name-dropped in the press release. Do a search on perfect Pac-Man games, and his is almost the only name you seem to come across. They could have sidestepped any potential issue by citing the current record for speed-running a perfect game, with the oh-so-appropriately named David Race (3:28:49).

@Bubba:
I believe the reason females slightly outnumber males in the human race is that males have a lower life expectancy. If birth rates are statistically even, the imbalance would mean that grandmothers outnumber grandfathers.

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And once again, the "You can buy a real one for cheaper!" crowd comes out. Newsflash, folks: That real one won't give you a satisfying building experience, or let you hear people exclaim, "That's made out of Legos?!" (I deliberately used "Legos" there instead of "Lego" because that what they'd say. Even my spellcheck knows it's wrong.) Anyway, I like this. Not sure if I'll get it (partially due to the price, and partially because there's not enough room on my shelf next to the NES and Atari), but I do wish, as others have said, that they'd included all four ghosts. I do like the fact that you can spin them and Pac-Man around so he's the one doing the chasing as if he's just eaten a Power Pellet. I also like the mini-arcade, reminiscent of the Atari's hidden living room. One bit of trivia I've heard that I'm not surprised they didn't include in the press release: Iwatani originally wanted to call it "Puck-Man," but realized that people would probably vandalize the cabinets to turn the P into an F.

@ItsTwentyBelow said:
"Change my mind."
Whenever someone says that, their mind is already 100 percent made up and nothing you say will change their position. Change my mind. (Yes, I absolutely intended that.)

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By in United States,

@MugenLazlo said:
"Who's going to pay $270 for this?"

Well, according to the poll above, at least 420 Brickset members. :o)

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By in United States,

@TheOtherMike:
"You can build one with $50 in parts from Radio Shack, some soldering, woodworking, and art classes, and an intensive course in computer programming. Why would anyone buy a premade arcade cabinet?"

That better?

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By in United States,

Folks complaining about the price - what are you basing your complaint on? It's a licensed set, with what appear to be 6x6 printed tiles, plus a ton of moving parts and mechanisms, for 10.2 cents per piece.

Just because a set "feels" expensive to you doesn't mean it's priced outrageously.

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By in United States,

@tmtomh:
The set is objectively expensive. The price per piece is not, however. The two things can both be true, but people get caught up on the former and project that on their impression of the latter. If it's expensive, it must therefore be _too_ expensive.

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By in United States,

The only person I've known to get addicted to playing Pac-Man was my mom, so a female minifigure is oddly appropriate for me.

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@AHYL88 said:
"This looks really cool and should be right up my alley, being a gamer and a Lego fan. But it's just not for me at that price, that I'd prefer to spend that on several other sets, or other large heavily discounted sets.

And I have to say something about some of the comments; take yourself out of the Lego vacuum for one minute and realise that Lego is not the end all be all. I know this is a Lego database and blog site and we're all fans here but it has to be called out; the excuse of paying so much for "the build experience" as a justification over the real thing the set is based on can only get you so far before you have to ask yourself, is/was it really worth it? Especially for sets like this, the Atari and other buildable versions of objects which are mainly just going to be static displays, functional or not. I've been burned before from the Grand Piano set, which I did enjoy building, don't get me wrong, but on reflection I regretted spending so much on that single set due to being so relatively small compared to other sets of the time like Pirates of Barracuda Bay. Every set purchase since then has been super careful.

Just something to throw out there, cos not everything in your life needs to revolve around Lego."


I mean, once the set is built and put on the shelf, only you can decide if it's worth it to you or not. Me personally, I've built many of the Lego "replica" sets like the NES and Ship in a Bottle, and I still think they're absolutely worth it because they're exactly what I wanted: Lego sets based on things I like that I can build and then have as a cool display piece.

I don't think anyone here with that argument is saying that Lego is the end all be all, or that their whole life revolves around Lego. What I'm saying is that the real object and the Lego set it's based on both serve fundamentally different purposes despite representing the same thing. In this case, I don't want a real arcade machine that plays Pac-Man; I would want this set specifically *because* it's a static display piece that I can build out of Lego. The Lego aspect, at its core, is what sets it apart.

Again, I still think the price is steep and I totally understand it's not for everyone; that is definitely its own conversation. I just think it's a bit disingenuous to suggest that the real thing would automatically provide a better experience or value compared to the Lego set.

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If it looked like the actual arcade machine I’d be totally into it. This looks like an Arcade1Up countercade

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By in United States,

@drewtstew said:
"Lego could lower the prices on all of their products by a huge amount, they just don't want to.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103041/lego-gross-margin-worldwide/ "


If I had a company with such high demand and sales regularly, why would I drop prices.
Especially with high inflation and cost on raw materials, fuel, etc. for manufacturing across the board.
Lego does though give free items, replaces parts and figs regularly if damaged or missing.
I do wish Lego was cheaper too, like 10% + per set. But they're hot and selling great.

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Wow and I thought Batcave had alot negative comments,

1. It's a nice set but id buy original version of it.
2. Great Display piece either for gamer,pac-man fan.
3. Alot better than nintendo set. it moves.

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By in United States,

@AHYL88 said:
"This looks really cool and should be right up my alley, being a gamer and a Lego fan. But it's just not for me at that price, that I'd prefer to spend that on several other sets, or other large heavily discounted sets.

And I have to say something about some of the comments; take yourself out of the Lego vacuum for one minute and realise that Lego is not the end all be all. I know this is a Lego database and blog site and we're all fans here but it has to be called out; the excuse of paying so much for "the build experience" as a justification over the real thing the set is based on can only get you so far before you have to ask yourself, is/was it really worth it? Especially for sets like this, the Atari and other buildable versions of objects which are mainly just going to be static displays, functional or not. I've been burned before from the Grand Piano set, which I did enjoy building, don't get me wrong, but on reflection I regretted spending so much on that single set due to being so relatively small compared to other sets of the time like Pirates of Barracuda Bay. Every set purchase since then has been super careful.

Just something to throw out there, cos not everything in your life needs to revolve around Lego."


Just something to throw out there, cos not everything in your life needs to revolve around Lego."
Lol Why not Lego great.

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By in United States,

@missedoutagain said:
"Wow and I thought Batcave had alot negative comments,

1. It's a nice set but id buy original version of it.
2. Great Display piece either for gamer,pac-man fan.
3. Alot better than nintendo set. it moves.
"


The NES set moves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka68hqHUL3E

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By in United States,

They should've included bricks to swap out colors for the Ghosts on the additional build that attaches to the top of the console (which I like a lot).
They have Blinky and Clyde but you'd think they'd have extra bricks to swap out for Pinky and Inky.

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By in Canada,

I think that more old school transformers would be better then this.

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By in United Kingdom,

For all those who want to spend $300 on an original I remember this game was not much fun due to the lag in seconds rather than today's milli-seconds, as you would hit left or right at the turn and Pac-man would just continue straight on into a ghost, so you would just hit harder next time and leave with a really store palm. I preferred the vertical space scrollers like Xenon 2 which would work really well in Lego.

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@TheOtherMike said:
"And once again, the "You can buy a real one for cheaper!" crowd comes out. Newsflash, folks: That real one won't give you a satisfying building experience, "

Go down the RetroPie route and you can get an even more satisfying build experience of doing the case and the electronics yourself, and have a proper gaming machine at the end. I thought about LEGO building the case for my RetroPie system but decided it wasn't worth the cost, and I'd need to glue them together for strength.

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@MegaBlocks said:
"How difficult would it have been for Lego to have included all four ghosts?

Every model these days feels like there was a shortcut made."


It would have been easy. How much more would you be willing to pay for it though?

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@CCC: I guess it depends on what kind of building experience you want, then. And a Lego-built case for something is definitely a cool idea, but yeah, you don't want to have to break out the Kragle.

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@ambr said:
"For all those who want to spend $300 on an original I remember this game was not much fun due to the lag in seconds rather than today's milli-seconds, as you would hit left or right at the turn and Pac-man would just continue straight on into a ghost, so you would just hit harder next time and leave with a really store palm. I preferred the vertical space scrollers like Xenon 2 which would work really well in Lego. "

I suspect that wasn't due to lag, rather than playing the game on an 8 way joystick. The original machine, and all of the many Arcade1Up iterations, use a 4 way stick, which is less prone to misreading the input signals. The problem is the 8 way sticks read diagonal inputs, so the game never knows whether you intend "up/down" or "left/right". Playing Pacman on a modern console with an 8 way stick is an incredibly frustrating experience, but playing on an actual arcade cabinet, original or reproduction, is a lot more fun.

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@MugenLazlo said:
"Who's going to pay $270 for this?"

That's not so bad, where I live it's $295.

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By in United States,

Cutting out two of the ghosts and including a random human minifigure feels really odd. I feel like you could make Pac-Man and the ghosts into printed tiles like the NES Mario and Goomba from a while back and it would be way more satisfying and keep the price down.

Mentioning Billy Mitchell's highscore in the press release is also *really* odd. For those that don't know, he never provided any proof or verification of his records and has since been stripped of most of his titles. As far as I'm aware the controversy was more concerned with his Donkey Kong records, but the Pac-Man score was also thrown into question from time to time

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@Brent007:
I could go for a G1 Soundwave. Or failing that, I suppose I could accept a Masterpiece Soundwave.

@CCC:
Or you could use Technic bracing on the inside for strength. And, I dunno, inherit a lot of money?

@8lackmagic:
Try playing it on a glitchy 2600 joystick. Not only were those things the worst ergonomic design until Sony started making PlayStation gamepads, but I discovered the internal contact system was just a triangular piece of metal held in place with clear tape. And the tape can migrate, resulting in constant “on” signals if the metal bit shifts too far in any direction. So, yeah, I repaired the two family 2600 joysticks with a bit of Scotch tape.

@GSR_MataNui:
Could be worse. They could have cited Jeffrey R. Yee’s “record” of 6,131,940 points, which was officially recognized by the US government (he got a congratulatory letter from POTUS) before anyone knew about the glitch at board 256.

Anyways, I didn’t dig very deeply into it (and there’s just tons of sites that basically seem to have the same text copy/pasted from some other site), but it sounds like Twin Galaxies did conclude the Donkey Kong game was modified, which invalidates any record attempts made on that cabinet. And they stripped his Pac-Man record because of the DK thing. Guinness followed suit, but put him back on the books for Pac-Man because apparently there were witnesses who said they saw him play a perfect game, and nobody has been able to prove the game was modified. If you can’t prove he lied or cheated, he gets to keep the record on their books. Of course, these days, Guinness likes to have you pay for an officiant to fly out to wherever and act as an unbiased witness to many record attempts, just for this sort of situation. Now, why they won’t recognize Ken Bradshaw’s big wave surfing record when there is now clearly established guidance on how to measure the wave height from photography, I don’t know.

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@Joefish said:
" @kkoster79 said:
"
@Joefish said:
"...for around the same money you can buy a fully-working 3/4 size Pac-Man arcade cabinet that'll play 'Galaxians', 'Galaga', 'Dig-Dug' and 'Mappy' as well.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9596546 "

Does anyone know where to find this in the states??"


Search for 'Arcade1up' cabinets - they're made in the US and there are several variants with all sorts of games. I understand Walmart sold them for a while, but I don't know enough about US retailers to suggest where else to look. There are Mortal Kombat, Rampage and Street Fighter machines, and some licensed Basketball game. They do a Star Wars one with that classic Atari two-handed yoke (copied from a tank gunner's control!) but in the UK that's around twice the price of this Pac-Man cabinet!

I was all set to buy the Star Wars one from Smyths but for some reason the whole import got cancelled at the last minute. I have since had a GRS reproduction Star Wars yoke imported but I'm now hand-building a table-top MAME unit to fit that on, since the analog control is also good for racing and flying games like OutRun and Space Harrier."


Oh thank you so much!

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By in United States,

@MingusDew said:
" @kkoster79 said:
"
@Joefish said:
"I'd buy the brick-built characters, and I'd buy the minifigure scene, but this whole unit? When for around the same money you can buy a fully-working 3/4 size Pac-Man arcade cabinet that'll play 'Galaxians', 'Galaga', 'Dig-Dug' and 'Mappy' as well? That's a bad joke, LEGO.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9596546 "

I have that exact unit and, if you have the space, I highly recommend it.

Does anyone know where to find this in the states??"


I was interested too - a quick Google search shows this model (Pac-Man) at Best Buy, and Ms. Pac Man at Best Buy and Amazon. Now where to put it..."


Agreed! I'm already looking for space.

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@legoDad42 said:
" @drewtstew said:
"Lego could lower the prices on all of their products by a huge amount, they just don't want to.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103041/lego-gross-margin-worldwide/ "


If I had a company with such high demand and sales regularly, why would I drop prices.
Especially with high inflation and cost on raw materials, fuel, etc. for manufacturing across the board.
Lego does though give free items, replaces parts and figs regularly if damaged or missing.
I do wish Lego was cheaper too, like 10% + per set. But they're hot and selling great.
"


Gross margin is after accounting for operating expenses

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By in Australia,

100% proof that just because you can build something out of Lego doesn't mean you actually should. Pac-Man is my era - I was 13 when these hit the arcades, you'd think I was the perfect target. I'm not because its all about the challenge of he game not the aesthetic. To charge $100 more than a proper, working 1Up mini cabinet makes absolutely no sense at all. Lego learnt nothing from the Atari VCS poor sales obviously.

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By in United States,

@Wolpertinger:
We’re seeing a shift in the US, at least with Gen Z.

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@Stebai said:
"100% proof that just because you can build something out of Lego doesn't mean you actually should. Pac-Man is my era - I was 13 when these hit the arcades, you'd think I was the perfect target. I'm not because its all about the challenge of he game not the aesthetic. To charge $100 more than a proper, working 1Up mini cabinet makes absolutely no sense at all. Lego learnt nothing from the Atari VCS poor sales obviously.
"


Where are you getting data on LEGO Atari VCS sales? Are they actually bad?

I also don’t know how this “proves” one shouldn’t make certain things out of LEGO. The responses here certainly prove not every idea will be universally well-received, which we knew already, but I still don’t know that that proves much of anything else.

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By in United States,

I’m not sure why everyone is surprised about the price. 2651 pieces for $270 comes out to about $.10 per piece. Pretty standard for LEGO.

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@AHYL88 said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
" @Stebai said:
"100% proof that just because you can build something out of Lego doesn't mean you actually should. Pac-Man is my era - I was 13 when these hit the arcades, you'd think I was the perfect target. I'm not because its all about the challenge of he game not the aesthetic. To charge $100 more than a proper, working 1Up mini cabinet makes absolutely no sense at all. Lego learnt nothing from the Atari VCS poor sales obviously.
"


Where are you getting data on LEGO Atari VCS sales? Are they actually bad?

I also don’t know how this “proves” one shouldn’t make certain things out of LEGO. The responses here certainly prove not every idea will be universally well-received, which we knew already, but I still don’t know that that proves much of anything else."


The Atari set was discounted pretty quickly and several times since it came out, which is a sort of indicator that it's not shifting how Lego wants it to"


Possibly a regional thing. I haven’t seen it discounted at all over here, even while I’ve seen discounts on other sets that are said to sell well.

When you say it’s been discounted “several times”, do you mean temporary sales after which it goes back to full price? I certainly wouldn’t consider that an indicator of poor sales so much as just usual promotional pushes, but perhaps things are different across the pond.

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