Three new Star Wars sets revealed!

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Australian certified store Bricks Megastore has revealed three new Star Wars sets, including 75381 Droideka and 75380 Mos Espa Podrace, which are due for release in May.

The two aforementioned sets look spectacular, and I think it's fair to say that a new Droideka is long overdue: the last large-scale one produced was 8002 Destroyer Droid which was released at the turn of the century. Like that one, this new version rolls up into a ball.

View images of all three after the break, then let us know what you think of them in the comments.


75380 Mos Espa Podrace

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75381 Droideka

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40675 Commander Cody

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95 comments on this article

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By in Canada,

Nice part usage for the droideka eyes.

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By in United States,

Reviews show the big droideka rolls, which is cool!

Overall, all three sets make for nice displays at different scales.

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By in United States,

I am tempted by the Podrace...

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By in United States,

Now! This is NOT pod racing!....Meh. I agree with the guy who said this looks like two polybags on a pedestal.

I like the Droideka because nothing can get past it.

Have almost zero BrickHeadz. The hot, orange sherbert mess will not increase that number.

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By in United Kingdom,

I saw the headline pop up on my watch and got all excited that we were getting the May 4th UCS set reveal. I'd forgotten these particular three hadn't been officially announced yet. Three sets and not a minifigire to be seen! :(

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By in United States,

I think I'll stick with 8002. Still one of the most impressive Technic functions of all time!

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By in Brazil,

Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too.

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By in United Kingdom,

Adore how the side-of-box picture for ol' Cap Cody is *specifically* him receiving the call to genocide some Jedi, frankly one of the funniest box art choices of all time

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By in United States,

Dreideka UCS model looks well. That little fig tho looks…like an attempt was made. I’m not sure but maybe they just need to make a mold? It seems so hard for them to get the mechanics just right in minifig scale.

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By in United States,

@lippidp said:
"I think I'll stick with 8002. Still one of the most impressive Technic functions of all time!"

Yeah I'll keep my 8002 as well. This one looks okay at best, definitely doesn't quite match up to the original.

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By in New Zealand,

The droideka looks mighty impressive, but somehow the minifig scale version just seems to get slightly worse with each iteration. IMO the one included in 7662 was overly bulky but otherwise nailed the look. A decent modern rendition has to be possible, right?

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By in United States,

Not much more could be wanted from that Droideka. Spectacular.

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By in United States,

Three cool sets. But I don;t think my wallet will be happy if I buy any...

Also, it's funny that MandR has put out a review of the set before the set was officially revealed!

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By in United Kingdom,

Droideka is probably the best of the three. I'm not a fan of Brickheadz and the midi-scale dioramas always seem slightly off to me...

I'm just waiting to see how overpriced they are with the Disney tax.

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By in United Kingdom,

@riversarl said:
"The droideka looks mighty impressive, but somehow the minifig scale version just seems to get slightly worse with each iteration. IMO the one included in 7662 was overly bulky but otherwise nailed the look. A decent modern rendition has to be possible, right?"

I was looking at this the other day as just found 7203 in a bulk lot.
Amazing how the 2002 version still holds up as one of (or in my opinion, the) best versions.

None of the others seem to get it.

Though is a very difficult shape and mechanical look to capture

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By in Netherlands,

Wow! Anyone have a guess on the price for the droideka?

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By in United Kingdom,

@Fatsochillyfries said:
"Wow! Anyone have a guess on the price for the droideka?"

*>>Insert Doctor Evil impression here<<* 'One million Dollars!'

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By in United Kingdom,

Meh... Easy pass here.

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By in United Kingdom,

@StyleCounselor said:
"I like the Droideka because nothing can get past it."

I take it you never used the EMP grenades in Battlefront or Republic Commando, then?

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By in Germany,

@ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

Why does R2 come with minifig R2 and Malak but the Droideka only with a mini Droideka?

Not to mention the spreading of the anniversary figures being so random. I have given up on collecting official figures. Either a set is useful as is or good value enough that it can be salvaged for MOCs. Statues like all this junk here or sets of vehicles that I don't want or are worse looking than its predecessor like the Gunship or scaled weirdly like the countless BARC Speeders and AT-RTs... what is the point of this? It doesn't add to the collection, it's its entirely separate thing.

Though the buildable figure Droideka was at least an attempt at something unique but also bogged down by the swivel legs instead of trying to replicate the joints more faithfully. "But nooo, faithful Droideka would be too flimsy"... How about some new and more stable joint pieces or techniques then? I mean they could do something for UCS AT-AT and we have had a full decade of knee-less walkers and Ninjago mechs, so why not give SOMETHING! ANYTHING! A COUPLE KNEE JOINTS FOR ONCE! AGAIN! LIKE IN THE GOOD TIMES? No wonder I only care about minifigs anymore when all the sensible articulation has been removed to appease people that apparently just want 3D puzzles.

Really wonder how the Mando Season 3 and Peridea sets are turning out, they must have spent all the new tooling on those helmets.

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By in United States,

@EtudeTheBadger said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
"I like the Droideka because nothing can get past it."

I take it you never used the EMP grenades in Battlefront or Republic Commando, then?"


All claims not approved by the Trade Federation are just fake news.

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By in United States,

@ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set.

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By in Poland,

Is Droideka scaled with ccbs figures?

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By in United States,

LOL XD, MandRProductions literally just reviewed the first two of these this morning

The Droideka is really the only one that looks the slightest but intriguing to me. For the minifigure-scale destroyer droid... they certainly tried. I think the shell is the best we've seen yet, but the rest of the figure isn't great. You get an E for effort, LEGO.

Also... no Palpatine hologram piece with Cody >:-(
Having the official part in the Brickheadz might've been the one reason for me to get that (I certainly ain't shelling out $3 for one on Bricklink), but TLG cheaped out and gave us a stud instead.

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By in France,

I'll pass on these three.
So good for my wallet.

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By in United States,

@Gataka said:
"Nice part usage for the droideka eyes."

They are lip-stick pieces faced backwards! Such an amazing technique that you'd never think of!

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By in United Kingdom,

@ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

Yep - gone are the days when the Lego Company slogan was ‘Just Imagine’ - this is just overpriced junk in my view.

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By in Netherlands,

No helmet holes on Cody???! Easy pass then

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By in Hungary,

@Fatsochillyfries said:
"Wow! Anyone have a guess on the price for the droideka?"

60 - 65 dollar / euro is the rumour.

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By in Canada,

none of the three have minifigures!!!
annoying

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By in United States,

Droideka and Cody are day-one buys, but I’ll wait for a sale on the Podrace. MandR showed that Sebulba’s Pod can’t fit through the arch it supposedly just came through, which is bugging me much more than it should.

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By in United States,

@Ridgeheart said:
"I guess the nice thing about the big bot is that it can just be a boss-version of the smaller one?"

Standing guard over its brood, fanning the water with its…whatever those things are under lobster tails, so they all get adequately oxygenated water flowing over their tiny robot gills…

@Ayliffe:
Can’t comment on LEGO packaging, but Hasbro did an electronic toy of the Tantive IV that was about 14” long, and the box art used a frame straight out of the film. You could just make out the tiny Playboy centerfold that the ILM guys stuck on the back wall of the bridge during filming. I’m guessing Hasbro was blissfully unaware of that when those shipped.

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By in Netherlands,

@MZ_1 said:
"Is Droideka scaled with ccbs figures?"

According to the description it is 21 cm tall. The CCBS Clone Commander Cody was 23 cm tall. In canon Droidekas and Clone Troopers are both 1.83 m tall, so the set is slightly undersized in comparison to the CCBS figures but very close in scale.

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By in United States,

Another Anakin vs. Sebulba battle-, er, race-in-a-box, following up 7171, @4485, and 7962. I also wonder how 75381would stand up to the stresses of being rolled around, considering it looks to have been designed as a display model, rather than one intended for play like 8002. As @fakespacesquid points out, that doesn't mean it can't be played with, but not every toy can be played with in the same manner.

@GrizBe said:
" @Fatsochillyfries said:
"Wow! Anyone have a guess on the price for the droideka?"

*>>Insert Doctor Evil impression here<<* 'One million Dollars!'"


I'm disappointed that @AustinPowers wasn't the one to make this comment.

@TheMikeStrikesBack said:"Droideka and Cody are day-one buys, but I’ll wait for a sale on the Podrace. MandR showed that Sebulba’s Pod can’t fit through the arch it supposedly just came through, which is bugging me much more than it should."

I assume it's meant to be forced perspective, as with 30652.

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By in United States,

Funny enough we just had the previous large-scale Droideka on RSotD not long ago. A worthy successor!

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By in United States,

@Fatsochillyfries said:
"Wow! Anyone have a guess on the price for the droideka?"

With 583 pieces at 10¢ per piece, it should come out to be 90 dollars

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By in United States,

I am happy that the Droideka set uses the original style with the levers for the head. Always liked that look over the other versions. Though since Lego is doing anniversaries, I would be really happy to see a Lego Star Wars video game homage set next year to go with the 20th anniversary.

But these lsw set reveal comments gotta start to cool it though lol, collections CAN be complete or ended any time, if you don't like the sets, just drop out for a while! Maybe Collect some older sets you don't have? Or make a Moc, idk.

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By in United States,

Wish we got a trans-blue microfig for the Palpatine hologram.

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By in United States,

BEEEEG Droideka. Me like this droid

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By in Spain,

@lupia13 said:
"Wish we got a trans-blue microfig for the Palpatine hologram."

You mean like part 16478 but not in trans-light blue?

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By in United States,

@fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


Not to mention, while it's been a long time since I was a kid, I distinctly remember my "play" with Lego sets consisting mostly of building and rebuilding sets, modifying, tinkering, imagining new additions I could make if I ever got new pieces, etc. That was always the joy of Lego to me as a kid. For action figure style play I had, you know, action figures. It blew my mind a few years ago to learn that some kids play with Lego as if it was action figures. Now I'm not going to say that there's any invalid way to play with toys, but I do think it's a little crazy that the Lego community (including prominent YouTubers) tends to talk about playing with Lego as a completely separate experience from building Lego. At the very least, building and rebuilding is a part of Lego play and needs to be considered when talking about "playability."

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By in United States,

Not sure whats more laughable, no figures, or the prices for these sets..
In any case LEGO is saving me money... Guessing that is not their intention.

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By in Australia,

Come to think of it, I believe this Commander Cody Brickhead (with holocommunicator) and the recently revealed BARC Escape are the first two sets where Order 66 has been represented in LEGO. Kind of strange how it took them this long to make something based on one of the most pivotal, albeit darkest, moments of the series.

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By in United States,

@RaiderOfTheLostBrick:
I was thinking the Emperor's hologram would count, but it's only been in three sets. One was OT, one was Disney Wars, and the third was from 75251, arguably taking place _after_ the execution of Order 66.

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By in United States,

@RaiderOfTheLostBrick said:
"Come to think of it, I believe this Commander Cody Brickhead (with holocommunicator) and the recently revealed BARC Escape are the first two sets where Order 66 has been represented in LEGO. Kind of strange how it took them this long to make something based on one of the most pivotal, albeit darkest, moments of the series. "

I’d say that honour arguably goes to 7260, the box art for which seems to depict the Jedi and Wookiees aboard the catamaran firing a giant technic missile at their own clone troopers, who’ve presumably turned on them. Obviously not a canonical moment in Order 66, but the conflict depicted would take place at the right time and is pretty clearly between Jedi and clones.

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By in United States,

@illennium said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


Not to mention, while it's been a long time since I was a kid, I distinctly remember my "play" with Lego sets consisting mostly of building and rebuilding sets, modifying, tinkering, imagining new additions I could make if I ever got new pieces, etc. That was always the joy of Lego to me as a kid. For action figure style play I had, you know, action figures. It blew my mind a few years ago to learn that some kids play with Lego as if it was action figures. Now I'm not going to say that there's any invalid way to play with toys, but I do think it's a little crazy that the Lego community (including prominent YouTubers) tends to talk about playing with Lego as a completely separate experience from building Lego. At the very least, building and rebuilding is a part of Lego play and needs to be considered when talking about "playability.""


Indeed. While sets like 10306, 21345, and 71374 do have neat features, seeing how the designers got the shapes is a good part of the fun of the build!

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By in United States,

I like the Mos Espa Podracs, except… argh, stickers.

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By in United States,

My wallet finally gets a reprieve from Star Wars LEGO.

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By in United States,

Droideka! I haven’t watched many Star Wars movies besides rebels, the mandalorian, and bad batch. But I really want that Droideka!

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By in United States,

Love the big Droideka. Really spooky how the minifigure-scale ones are always far worse than the fan-designed ones.

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By in United Kingdom,

Droideka is a pre-order/day one purchase for me, not into the other themes. Eagerly waiting for the May 4th UCS reveal...

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By in United States,

For the 25th anniversary year of Lego Star Wars, these sets and most of the other sets released so far have been underwhelming.

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By in United States,

The destroyer droid is AWESOME. Absolutely I will get that and display it!

I happen to think the minifig destroyer is one of the most concise attempts yet, and the legs are the mostly shapely we've had. I'll be happy to use it in a diorama.

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By in United States,

No interest in any of these sets. Is the podrace diorama set really $80 USD? That is insane.

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By in United Kingdom,

While most Star Wars sets are coma inducingly boring to me, I do rather like all the diorama sets. Will definitely get this one once it's had the customary 25% price cut.

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By in Spain,

What are the orange gears used for the podrace diorama set?

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By in France,

The Droideka will definitely come and join last month's R2-D2 on display!

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By in United Kingdom,

Oh goody, more straw ars sets.......

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By in United Kingdom,

@ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

Look over an entire year, rather than at just one mid-year point. There are plenty of modern SW playsets available.

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By in United Kingdom,

@TheMikeStrikesBack said:
"Droideka and Cody are day-one buys, but I’ll wait for a sale on the Podrace. MandR showed that Sebulba’s Pod can’t fit through the arch it supposedly just came through, which is bugging me much more than it should. "

I think it's meant to give some kind of forced perspective? Arch is smaller to show it's further away

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By in United Kingdom,

@VaultDweller_197 said:
" @TheMikeStrikesBack said:
"Droideka and Cody are day-one buys, but I’ll wait for a sale on the Podrace. MandR showed that Sebulba’s Pod can’t fit through the arch it supposedly just came through, which is bugging me much more than it should. "

I think it's meant to give some kind of forced perspective? Arch is smaller to show it's further away"


Yes, plus it keeps the cost down while keeping the detail high. They could either reduce the scale of the pod racer, reducing detail, or increase the width of the arch and widen the whole build increasing the cost.

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By in United Kingdom,

The droideka is nice. They still haven't nailed the minifig scale version yet though.

I should be a mark for a Cody Brickhead, but there's just too much going on.

Will be buying the podrace diorama, but it's probably my least favourite of the diorama series so far.

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By in United Kingdom,

@fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play.

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By in United States,

@xoddam said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


When was the last time you played with a set?

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By in United Kingdom,

All these amazing, imaginative Podracer designs, and we only ever get the same two ones repeated ad nauseam. Anakin's is literally one of the least interesting ones at that.

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By in United States,

@merman said:
"What are the orange gears used for the podrace diorama set?"

https://brickset.com/parts/design-69762

I’m thinking this, maybe? Looks like a pair of thick 16-tooth bevel gears placed back to back, and this is the only thing I can find that looks close.

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By in Sweden,

I am continually amazed that Brickheadz is still a thing. I feel like general AFOL excitement for them faded out after a couple of years, and that was a LONG time ago now. But I guess someone's still buyin' 'em, or maybe I'm just completely wrong.

UCS Droideka.. Who asked for this? I know there's now a generation of young adults who saw the prequel trilogy as kids and have a nostalgic soft spot for these pretty bad films because childhood nostalgia is a powerful, potent thing.. But still, a droideka? There hasn't been a Gungan Sub set in 12 years, why not something like that instead?

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By in United States,

@Brick_t_ said:
"The Droideka will definitely come and join last month's R2-D2 on display! "

That'd be a one-sided battle... or *would* it?

@Golem25 said:"All these amazing, imaginative Podracer designs, and we only ever get the same two ones repeated ad nauseam. Anakin's is literally one of the least interesting ones at that."

While I would love to see some of the others be made as sets, the original did give us this part: https://brickset.com/parts/design-30407

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By in United States,

@Graysmith said:
"I am continually amazed that Brickheadz is still a thing. I feel like general AFOL excitement for them faded out after a couple of years, and that was a LONG time ago now. But I guess someone's still buyin' 'em, or maybe I'm just completely wrong."

You might want to sit down, cuz I’ve got some earth-shattering news…

Afols…..aren’t the only people that buy Lego sets. I know! I know, it sounds absolutely crazy, but it’s true. The (probably vast) majority of sets are bought by non-Afols.

A wild concept, to be sure.

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By in United Kingdom,

@TheMikeStrikesBack said:
"Droideka and Cody are day-one buys, but I’ll wait for a sale on the Podrace. MandR showed that Sebulba’s Pod can’t fit through the arch it supposedly just came through, which is bugging me much more than it should. "

Yes however I am 99% sure that Sebulba has to turn his podracer vertically to fit through one of the archways in the film and this is how you can fit his podracer through so actually it is quite accurate in fact.

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By in Germany,

" @fakespacesquid said:
" @xoddam said:
The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


When was the last time you played with a set?"


He has just explained with logic and in detail why they are worse for play than even the average toy within its same product category, what does your retort even mean?

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By in United States,

@Anonym said:
" " @fakespacesquid said:
" @xoddam said:
The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


When was the last time you played with a set?"


He has just explained with logic and in detail why they are worse for play than even the average toy within its same product category, what does your retort even mean?"


He listed some differences, yes. But kids playing with these couldn't care less about something being "out of scale" and often don't care about poseability. "Too small to play with?" That doesn't exist. So if kids would have no issue playing with these, the differences would only matter if adult play would be affected.

So the next logical question is how often do you play? If you're criticizing the playability, when was the last time you used it? If someone was criticizing instructions, but never built anything by the instructions, it'd be a pretty silly complaint. If someone bought sets and never built them, I couldn't take their opinion on set design very seriously.

So if you aren't playing with sets, don't talk about playability. Easy peasy. I can guarantee, people who *do* play with their Lego don't complain about something having or not having it. It's folks who build it once and display it on a shelf forever that complain about a lack of playability, because they don't have a reasonable complaint.

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By in United States,

Probably the best droideka minifig since 2002, though still none of them can roll up like that one did.

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By in United States,

@xoddam said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


I grew up playing with 4488 side by side with minifigures, with an Exo-Force robot for 3PO, Hagrid as Chewie, and Luke cobbled together from other figures.

100 years ago, a duck with wheels was a viable toy. 200 years ago, dried up folded corn skins counted as dolls. so how the heck are microscale podracers not playable, and how is a minifigure with a REMOVABLE, REPLACEABLE stud shooter and without printed arms considered not displayable as a collectible?

some sets are meant for older collectors, sure. But building it IS playing with it, and kids CAN play with whatever they want. You think no kids are going to imagine a world where a giant droideka exists? (also, that's why there's a minifig too!) and do you think no kids whose parents can't afford the AT-TE and don't know about bricklink are gonna play with Brickhead Cody instead alongside their minifigs? Kids imagine cardboard boxes into castles, but size variations are where you draw the line?

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By in United States,

@fakespacesquid said:
" @xoddam said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


When was the last time you played with a set?"


Thank you for helping me to update my 'to-do' list.

A day without play is sad. :(

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By in United States,

The pod race is cool but not worth the price imo. Cody looks really good for a brickheadz and *ahem* will make a nice addition to my collection. I think the droideka is the best set and it seems decently priced. I will definitely pick up Cody but we'll see on the droideka. Saving for Barud Dur is really eating into my budget for other sets.

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By in United States,

@ShilohCyan said:
" @xoddam said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


I grew up playing with 4488 side by side with minifigures, with an Exo-Force robot for 3PO, Hagrid as Chewie, and Luke cobbled together from other figures.

100 years ago, a duck with wheels was a viable toy. 200 years ago, dried up folded corn skins counted as dolls. so how the heck are microscale podracers not playable, and how is a minifigure with a REMOVABLE, REPLACEABLE stud shooter and without printed arms considered not displayable as a collectible?

some sets are meant for older collectors, sure. But building it IS playing with it, and kids CAN play with whatever they want. You think no kids are going to imagine a world where a giant droideka exists? (also, that's why there's a minifig too!) and do you think no kids whose parents can't afford the AT-TE and don't know about bricklink are gonna play with Brickhead Cody instead alongside their minifigs? Kids imagine cardboard boxes into castles, but size variations are where you draw the line?"


Problem here is, Lego is selling these as display pieces for adults first, and toys for kids second. It's been the issue plaguing the brand for the past decade now.

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By in United States,

@Onatu said:
" @ShilohCyan said:
" @xoddam said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


I grew up playing with 4488 side by side with minifigures, with an Exo-Force robot for 3PO, Hagrid as Chewie, and Luke cobbled together from other figures.

100 years ago, a duck with wheels was a viable toy. 200 years ago, dried up folded corn skins counted as dolls. so how the heck are microscale podracers not playable, and how is a minifigure with a REMOVABLE, REPLACEABLE stud shooter and without printed arms considered not displayable as a collectible?

some sets are meant for older collectors, sure. But building it IS playing with it, and kids CAN play with whatever they want. You think no kids are going to imagine a world where a giant droideka exists? (also, that's why there's a minifig too!) and do you think no kids whose parents can't afford the AT-TE and don't know about bricklink are gonna play with Brickhead Cody instead alongside their minifigs? Kids imagine cardboard boxes into castles, but size variations are where you draw the line?"


Problem here is, Lego is selling these as display pieces for adults first, and toys for kids second. It's been the issue plaguing the brand for the past decade now."


That would be a good point, if we hadn't spent several comments thoroughly explaining that play vs display sets is bogus. Anything can be displayed. Anything can be played with.

The only thing that makes some of these lean more towards display is the price. But that still doesn't mean that these aren't sets that can be played with. What we think TLG is "selling them as," just doesn't really factor in.

And again as I've mentioned (maybe in another article), this wouldn't be an "issue plaguing the brand" if customers weren't gobbling it up. Big, detailed, expensive sets sell, so TLG will continue to make them. If buyers weren't into it, we wouldn't get them over and over.

The only thing that makes these display pieces and "not playsets" is some woefully underused imaginations. "This is a display set, I can't play with it cuz it's out of scale" C'mon friend. We can do better.

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By in Switzerland,

@Onatu said:
" @ShilohCyan said:
" @xoddam said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


I grew up playing with 4488 side by side with minifigures, with an Exo-Force robot for 3PO, Hagrid as Chewie, and Luke cobbled together from other figures.

100 years ago, a duck with wheels was a viable toy. 200 years ago, dried up folded corn skins counted as dolls. so how the heck are microscale podracers not playable, and how is a minifigure with a REMOVABLE, REPLACEABLE stud shooter and without printed arms considered not displayable as a collectible?

some sets are meant for older collectors, sure. But building it IS playing with it, and kids CAN play with whatever they want. You think no kids are going to imagine a world where a giant droideka exists? (also, that's why there's a minifig too!) and do you think no kids whose parents can't afford the AT-TE and don't know about bricklink are gonna play with Brickhead Cody instead alongside their minifigs? Kids imagine cardboard boxes into castles, but size variations are where you draw the line?"


Problem here is, Lego is selling these as display pieces for adults first, and toys for kids second. It's been the issue plaguing the brand for the past decade now."


You mean the issue that has turned them into the most valuable toy brand in the world, and one of the only toy brands that saw growing revenue last year while most toy brands were suffering? You mean that LEGO?

I for one love that LEGO is diversifying its portfolio to ensure that they remain profitable and can expand production, r&d, etc... instead of a company like Playmobil that seems to be in quite some financial trouble because they keep sticking to their guns.

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By in United States,

@ShilohCyan:
Now I kinda want to plonk Big Momma on one of our layouts, surrounded by her flock of droidekalings…

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By in United Kingdom,

Every set is a play set... It's a new toy every day!

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By in Germany,

@fakespacesquid said:
" @Anonym said:
" " @fakespacesquid said:
" @xoddam said:
The diorama is too small to play with and the podracers don't have any play features. The droideka is too big, out of scale and probably fragile to play with. Cody doesn't have any moving parts, unlike a minifigure which can be moved and posed for play. You *can* play with these sets, but other sets are far better for play."


When was the last time you played with a set?"


He has just explained with logic and in detail why they are worse for play than even the average toy within its same product category, what does your retort even mean?"


He listed some differences, yes. But kids playing with these couldn't care less about something being "out of scale" and often don't care about poseability. "Too small to play with?" That doesn't exist. So if kids would have no issue playing with these, the differences would only matter if adult play would be affected.

So the next logical question is how often do you play? If you're criticizing the playability, when was the last time you used it? If someone was criticizing instructions, but never built anything by the instructions, it'd be a pretty silly complaint. If someone bought sets and never built them, I couldn't take their opinion on set design very seriously.

So if you aren't playing with sets, don't talk about playability. Easy peasy. I can guarantee, people who *do* play with their Lego don't complain about something having or not having it. It's folks who build it once and display it on a shelf forever that complain about a lack of playability, because they don't have a reasonable complaint."


I was a kid once, too and had many issues with the things he listes. The poseability of action figures that were sculpted in permanent crouches or had no elbows or wrists was idiotic and made me go with Lego because at the end of the day Hasbro figures weren't more poseable than Lego, most of the time they were even lacking in basic features of Lego figures like being able to sit down.

Same with the 90$ podrace diorama, not only do you pay so much for just two mini scale models, you can not even really play with the scenerey included, so how can you seriously call that not an issue that affects people or children? How grotesquely dumb do you think children are? They see these issues too and go to computer games because of it, because there they do have enough clearance for their podracers to go through caves and arches and even have a multitude of different ones too choose from for much less of a price (90$ vs 2.50 - 20$ for the average racing game). And by your reasoning why would this 90$ set then still be good when two 4$ mini polybag podracers would do the exact same job? By your reasoning two rocks and a cut up shipping box would be just as good because they do the exact same job. Don't mention being able to build the structures out of bricks, the percentage of people that build and rebuild the exact same item multiple times is tiny compared to people that view the building of such expensive toys as required assembly. Your arguments are all ridiculous hypotheticals taken to extremes through isolation while ignoring most easily observable characteristics to avoid any comparison between two different toys.

If you got goaded into paying 90$ for a set and then only end up really using parts worth 8$ you got scammed and that should be called what it is. This same thing happened to me too with a bunch of old LSW items. Technic figures looked interesting but could only move their shoulders and maybe head and the lack of heroes meant there wasn't any fight to play out except for 3PO getting blasted apart. The presentation and "unique" parts tricked me into wanting these when I would have been better off using the money for any othe

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By in Netherlands,

Missed opportunity to not make the quote "Now this is podracing" on set 75380 .

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By in United Kingdom,

@fakespacesquid @ShilohCyan
If 'anything can be played with', why buy your kid a £90 Star Wars diorama when you could just give them a stick? Some things are better to play with than others. I had toys that I never played with and toys that I played with a lot, and there were reasons for that. The good toys had moving parts, action features, were small enough to fit in my hand but big enough that they felt substantial. They were durable and could fit minifigures inside. Are we gonna pretend that Lego can just put anything out and call it a playset?

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By in United States,

@fakespacesquid said:
" @ao_ka said:
"Peak modern Lego Star Wars: not a single playset, only display pieces (certainly overpriced) for fans who are willing to pay the full prices on the "day one" and the "investors" who profit from said fans too."

What would a "playset" entail? How can you play with other sets, and not with these? Can you not move the pod racers? Can you not move/pose/swoosh the droideka? How can you play with a minifig but not with a Brickhead?

We should really move past this vague, fictional "play" that some sets have and some sets don't. You can play with *****anything*****. I have not seen anyone ever articulate what would make these less conducive to play than any other set."


Regarding 'modern star wars':

Please picture this as the spongebob pointing meme:
75365 - couldn't be more of a playset
75387 - whole set is designed around action features
75372 - battle in a box
66778 - how are these for anything *but* playing
75354 - made smaller and with a handle explicitly for play
75326 - playset

All sets from the last three years, and that's glossing over any number of swooshable ships with shooting functions.

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By in Poland,

Droideka is my favorite Droid, I wish they remade technic model.

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By in United Kingdom,

@SI15 said:
"Missed opportunity to not make the quote "Now this is podracing" on set 75380 ."

While I agree that is a great quote,
It is from a different scene, so wouldn't fit.

If it were a Diorama of the N1, then absolutely that should be the quote.

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By in South Korea,

All that effort and the mini-droideka can't roll? Boooo! Boooooo!! /j

Jokes aside those both look pretty cool, these are the first Star Wars sets in some time not to include a minifigure I think.

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By in Germany,

Honestly, on minifig Droidekas the proportions of their "head and neck" curve only ever felt correct on the original 2002 ones.

Even the 18+ set still contains this issue on the minifig scale version. It sticks out like a sore thumb especially when placed next to the more accurate bigger scale version. The curve bricks used are at too sharp of an angle, compared to the 1x2 chain on the 2002 ones that got the shape of the curve down more accurately on an otherwise inaccurate build.

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By in United States,

@xoddam said:
" @fakespacesquid @ShilohCyan
If 'anything can be played with', why buy your kid a £90 Star Wars diorama when you could just give them a stick? Some things are better to play with than others. I had toys that I never played with and toys that I played with a lot, and there were reasons for that. The good toys had moving parts, action features, were small enough to fit in my hand but big enough that they felt substantial. They were durable and could fit minifigures inside. Are we gonna pretend that Lego can just put anything out and call it a playset?"


Stick!!!

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By in United States,

ugh guys... no one's saying there's no distinction between playsets and display pieces. Just that they're all Lego and they can all go on a shelf and all be picked up and played with. My point with the mini falcon is the scale of the podracers don't matter and once you take them off the base, they serve the same purpose as 4485 which was clearly intended as a toy. Heck, I'd say it's easier to play with tiny versions and swoosh them around your bedroom than 7962 that needs at least 3 hands and a living room to swoosh around.

I'm not debating that some sets are playsets and some sets are display pieces. I'm saying there's nothing stopping you from using either as the other because they're all the same components. That's the whole point. that is why we're all still here 15-70 years later.

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By in United States,

@bnic99 said:
" @SI15 said:
"Missed opportunity to not make the quote "Now this is podracing" on set 75380 ."

While I agree that is a great quote,
It is from a different scene, so wouldn't fit.

If it were a Diorama of the N1, then absolutely that should be the quote."


I had similar thoughts to both of you. "It should say 'Now this is podracing!' Oh wait, that line wasn't from this scene."

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By in United States,

That Droideka set looks great. Even better how it can actually fold up and roll!!! :D

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