Jabba is not a Sith: confirmed!

j/k j/k I know what you mean haha

@Huw, sorry to be nitpicky but the link to the database for more pictures of the sailbarge at the end of the article seems to be referring to the lightsaber by context. I scrolled back up to make sure I hadn't missed a link to the set I wanted to see more of. Just a bit of confusion. :)

Is the Gamorrean Guard holding a chain without a stud on one end?? (In the photo with all 9 minifigures) If that's real, that's huge for moc building. We no longer have to cut the stud off!?

At first impressions I obviously like it a lot, it could be a definitive set but... it stays at a 9.0 in a €500 set because they haven't made C3-PO in chrome gold to have the 10 !!

I think in this economically inflated time we live in it is not too bad at UK prices, missed the first and second smaller barges but have skiffs and Saarlacs aplenty from years past, will be picking this one up day one as the gwp is especially great and matches the set.

I like it, but I don't $500 like it. It feels like a $300 set or maybe even $400 if they included the skiff set. The Leia minifig looks great though.

In pic 5 (on the set page) there is a frog on the kitchen floor.
In pic 10 Bib Fortuna seems to have replaced it.
He's a shapeshifter!
Also Leia has quite a smug look on her face like she knows that she's about to strangle her captor.

@Username28 said:
" @Legomus said:
" @Somnium said:
"At least Slave Leia is back."

It’s «Spaceship» Leia ;)
"

Erm, AKTCHUALLY, it's "Hutt-Slayer Leia.""

Often, I will read descriptive names like this and my brain will automatically use spoonerisms. This is not a good habit in this case!

This might be a Day 1 purchase for me, but ONLY because the lightsaber GWP takes away some of the sting. I imagine the aftermarket value of that set could make up for how egregiously overpriced the Sail Barge is.

I just want the lightsaber.

The Sail Barge itself looks excellent! It's too bad about the figures being so inaccurate, but I still have https://brickset.com/sets/6210-1/Jabba-s-Sail-Barge on my shelf, I have still yet to build https://brickset.com/sets/75020-1/Jabba-s-Sail-Barge, and I have Jabba's Palace. I'd say the figures from those sets will do nicely for making an actual ultimate Sail Barge with the correct figures.

@rslotb said:
"Lego, please stop with the 'creative'. Building something according to the instructions is not creative. Sure, you are 'creating', but that's not same. "

They did. Someone designed this. Someone else made instructions based on it. Still someone else built it “according to the instructions” and gave a thumbs up. Print, pack, ship.

@DaLegoNerd1 said:
"Is anyone actually buying this? There are several other sets e.g. 10316 that are the same exact price.
The Star Wars IP can't be that expensive... or do they just think there are enough MandRproductions out there to buy these obsurdly overpriced Star Wars sets.

"

I've seen more than one person (off this website) say that they're getting it day 1, even after complaining about the price. All I know is I'm glad I don't collect Star Wars! And even if I did, I'd have a hard time justifying this even with the admittedly good lightsaber GWP.

When I saw this coming, I was tempted because I thought it might be interesting, but now I've seen the price, I'm entirely put off. I used to love star wars but my interest has waned considerably and the design of this while clever, doesn't warrant the price which has not encouraged me to buy it.

It's like the Marvel Tower, I was tempted by that too and I started saving VIP points for it, but £270 accumulated later and it's far down my list now.

I brought the HP train, even though I've never read or watched HP, but I like the set, even though I don't think the price was justified. Spending that kind of money is not something I want to do again.

As for the lightsaber, that box for the controls looks very ugly and simplistic. Definitely waiting until after the gwp finishes.

@Username28 said:
" @Legomus said:
" @Somnium said:
"At least Slave Leia is back."

It’s «Spaceship» Leia ;)
"

Erm, AKTCHUALLY, it's "Hutt-Slayer Leia.""

Counterpoint: title is pretty bigoted against Hutts.

If we're assuming all Hutts are evil, look up Queen Jool, who may or may not have been a paramour of Luke's Great Great Grandson.

Nice design but laughable price-to-impression-ratio. Somewhere down the line it will be available at 30% down, will grab i then, moving on.

Well, it's not a TIE Bomber, but it's nice enough looking. Especially like the interior, though it seems a bit small overall. Will keep patiently waiting for my "build any TIE" kit...

I'm disappointed with the set, disappointed at the build, the figures and the price. But with the GWP it means that it is unfortunately Day 1 purchase for me.

Well, I have 75020 and see no needs to get that set.

I have 75020. Sure not as fancy, but it also was a decent price.

I have the 2013 version so I don't NEED this one. I think they did a good job overall. The size is nice. I do think it might be a bit smooth on the surface for whatever reason. The figures are nice, but I like the previous version of Leia better.

I think having a skiff would have added a lot of value to this set. But then you'd like want to add in a few more characters and I don't see them throwing that in at this price. It would have to go higher.

Nice set. Haven't bought a LEGO set at MSRP in years, though, and this'll be no different.

I'll patiently wait for someone to sell their copy second-hand after the buyer's remorse sets in or they get bored of it. Or maybe it'll sell so poorly that TLG discounts it 20%?

The helmet on Wooof is for me the hero of this set.

I like the barge. Some of the figs. But the pricing is insane.

Are they making these sets so expensive so people can show off on the socials that they have bought it? I want old lego prices back!

Honestly the price doesn't seem TOO far off to me given recent Lego pricing. Neither the sails nor Jabba are cheap to produce (or at least as cheap to produce as average pieces), and add in Lego's inflation prices and rounding up plus how overpriced almost every Star Wars set this year has been, and I can see how they came up with 500. It's still absurd though.

@ResIpsaLoquitur said:
" @Username28 said:
" @Legomus said:
" @Somnium said:
"At least Slave Leia is back."

It’s «Spaceship» Leia ;)
"

Erm, AKTCHUALLY, it's "Hutt-Slayer Leia.""

Counterpoint: title is pretty bigoted against Hutts.

If we're assuming all Hutts are evil, look up Queen Jool, who may or may not have been a paramour of Luke's Great Great Grandson."

I did not need to know that. You see, its things like this that made Disney reboot the canon.

I feel like for 5 hundy it should be larger, more accurate to the shape of the model, include the sarlacc pit as the “support base” and include the rest of the essential characters.

Perfect for "any" Star Wars fan. Sure it is.

With that bit of sarcasm out of the way, it does have an overall appealing look to it, and the designer probably did put some extensive time and research into it. However, for $500, it really should've been truer to the cross-section many of us are familiar with, as there are several missing rooms and features:
https://images.app.goo.gl/NGe7o9iWJwFHkAwR6

They packed a lot in though...the necessary rooms seem to all be there to some extent.
And the minifigure selection could've been more diverse, referencing the movie clip and having some different alien characters. Someone mentioned having another skiff included, which I think could've justified the price if it was similar to the separate one available now, where the three guards included with the barge could be displayed. Then adding another 2-3 more alien passengers would've been nice.

The display stand for the 10 minifigs is a weird thing, honestly, being that several of the characters seem a bit randomly selected.

The UCS AT-AT was very true to the actual reference material as far as I know.
I was just really hoping this barge would have the look of the actual ship in the cross-section here, as mentioned before (mostly talking interior).

I will likely grab this during a x2 VIP promotion with -$100 voucher to stomach the pricetag. I have the last 3 Desert Skiff sets released so I can build an accurate display with plenty of guards and heroes.
Wooof's new headgear is awesome!
Updated Kithaba looks good but I actually prefer his brighter red legs from sw0397
Glad to have Vizam, but just as expected its the same head as sw1256 and sw1257
Should this have had more minifigs? yes
Do I still want it? yes

@Username28 said:
" @Legomus said:
" @Somnium said:
"At least Slave Leia is back."

It’s «Spaceship» Leia ;)
"

Erm, AKTCHUALLY, it's "Hutt-Slayer Leia.""

All of you are wrong - it's actually "Boba Fett's Starship" Leia!

And we all will buy it anyway so Lego can keep on selling sets this expensive. I always buy UCS sets day and sell the GWP but Lego has gone too far in greediness so this may be the first time I pass.

How long before regular less greedy stores will sell it?

And is it a new Jabba or just the same we alreay saw before?

The Haslab was 500. This is nowhere near the same value, even with inflation.

I was really hoping to buy the next UCS play scale set, but this is a real let down when it comes to price, quality and quantity of minifigs, and display. I just scored a copy of 9516 Jabba's Palace making even harder to justify getting this UCS, now that I own a quality Jabba. I’m almost ready to just buy the Mos Eisley Cantina, given it’s minifig selection.
Saving my VIP points for another year I guess.

It's weird that they went with Kithaba, a skiff guard, over any of the various aliens who are actually seen on the barge. Leia getting inaccurate dual-molded legs when so many characters who merit it don't get it is pretty funny too, though I understand the rationale.

its a cool set but I don't see myself buying it for $500 though hahaha

@TheOtherMike said:
" @LegoMike said:
"We had Luke’s lightsaber a few years ago, with more pieces and if I’m honest, I think it looked much better.
So fair enough on releasing it again but I’m not seeing an improvement unfortunately."

40483 was the lightsaber he had in ANH and TESB, this is the lightsaber from RotJ."

Thanks, so that explains the difference.
Still don’t think this latest one looks particularly good though. As someone else mentioned, very blocky

Change the record. This formula is getting boring:

1) "Oh cool! How much?! Maybe I'll wait."
2) "GWP? Cool! Looks neat!"
3) "I have to drop how much and when to get it? Ugh."

Savvy I guess, from a business standpoint, and no telling how much Disney pushes for this "GWP" approach (though it isn't exclusive to Disney properties).

I'm usually not one to be hard on LEGO for trying to make money, but when you can feel a company actively trying to rend it from your hands on their terms, well...it's enough to make me rethink my FOMO.

Thanks Lego, but no thank$

@socal_bricks said:
" @Username28 said:
" @Legomus said:
" @Somnium said:
"At least Slave Leia is back."

It’s «Spaceship» Leia ;)
"

Erm, AKTCHUALLY, it's "Hutt-Slayer Leia.""

All of you are wrong - it's actually "Boba Fett's Starship" Leia!"

Um, technically it would be "Starship Leia"

On the bright side, it looks great. As in, well finished compared to the source material. And I don't collect Star Wars so I won't be completely broke or being unable to get something I would want. Because I don't.

That said... I did not expect that price for this set. I mean that lego would set it to that price point. Especially with the Sarlacc pit and skiff being another 80 euro addition to this... At that pricepoint I would have expected another skiff so there would be two as there were in the film. For the first time.
Because this isn't an AT-AT. Or the Millennium Falcon. Or Rivendell. This is... Jabba's Sail Barge. The big brown elongated shoe with two sails and side vanes which looked cool enough for a crime lord's pleasure sand yacht but doesn't look particularly beautiful, or detailed, or awe-inspiring. It's a big brown elongated shoe with two sails and side vanes.

This setup is just the 2014 one but bigger, which was already a split of the 2006 one which contained the complete scene. I mean, it's UCS. Not a play set. But it doesn't do this any favors.

I hope no one buys this just like the Hulkbuster and then it’s stuck at 30% off forever and no one wants it still…

As simple as it is, that R2 is the highlight of the set for me!

Other than that looks quite impressive, and for once a UCS set that doesn't heavily rely on stickers. Would have been a great €350 set....

I’ve never had a set of Jabba’s Sail Barge (or palace) before so will probably get this - I just need to look at the dimensions first, to make sure I actually have somewhere to display it!

@DaLegoNerd1 said:
"Is the Gamorrean Guard holding a chain without a stud on one end?? (In the photo with all 9 minifigures) If that's real, that's huge for moc building. We no longer have to cut the stud off!?"

Its supposed to be connected to Leah’s back

To be honest, I kinda want to get that Leia figure. She's s%xy!

@YoungB1ood said:
" @socal_bricks said:
" @Username28 said:
" @Legomus said:
" @Somnium said:
"At least Slave Leia is back."

It’s «Spaceship» Leia ;)
"

Erm, AKTCHUALLY, it's "Hutt-Slayer Leia.""

All of you are wrong - it's actually "Boba Fett's Starship" Leia!"

Um, technically it would be "Starship Leia""

You're right – I messed that one up!

@MandoEli37 said:
" @DaLegoNerd1 said:
"Is the Gamorrean Guard holding a chain without a stud on one end?? (In the photo with all 9 minifigures) If that's real, that's huge for moc building. We no longer have to cut the stud off!?"

Its supposed to be connected to Leah’s back"

oh. thanks. They edited that really weirdly then.

No thanks, I'm good with my regular barge.

@brickwich said:
"Reminder that the way to show them these prices are ridiculous is to NOT BUY IT. If you complain about the prices and buy it anyway, there's no incentive for them to make changes. And if you do want it, please be patient and wait a year or two until they lower the price, we usually get plenty of warning before sets are retired."

While true, so far that doesn't seem to have much effect. Apparently enough people willing to pay whatever Lego asks. And some even defending price increases....
(not that I would be buying this one anyway...)

And being patient doesn't do much either, because that's more likely the retailer giving discounts and thus taking the brunt of the pain, not Lego. Not that we need to feel sorry for the likes of Amazon for that, but it's a bit sad when that's the lesser of two evils....

$730 CAD after taxes. Insane.

But, I'm happy to see that no one in the comment (so far) is trying to do mental gymnastics to justify the pricing. Maybe this will be the set that even TLG and SW fans will so "Nope" to? We'll have to wait and see.

I’m sorry but this is so painfully mid

"I see you've constructed a new lightsaber. Your skills [at getting me to buy on D1] are complete. Indeed you are powerful as the Emporer has foreseen."

Ugh. I love this. I hate the price. The figs look pretty nice, except: 1) for what appear to be explicit reissues- which I already have; 2) the absolutely criminal lack of leg and arm printing; and 3) the lack of more figures on a set of this size and price.

Yet, the lure of the lightsaber calls me to spend. Knowing my luck, they'll just cancel my order anyway.

@Legomus said:
" @Somnium said:
"At least Slave Leia is back."

It’s «Spaceship» Leia ;)
"

*Starship

wayyyy too $$$$$

Perhaps for it to be UCS they should've done something different for the sails? There's just too much to make it similar to the original sets.

I think it looks good! Probably not getting myself, but the minifigures are excellent.

@Clutch_P said:
"I knew it. They reused the inaccurate Book of Boba Fett mold for Bib Fortuna :("

I'm disappointed they reused it purely because of your comment on the palace review

@WizardOfOss said:
" @brickwich said:
"Reminder that the way to show them these prices are ridiculous is to NOT BUY IT. If you complain about the prices and buy it anyway, there's no incentive for them to make changes. And if you do want it, please be patient and wait a year or two until they lower the price, we usually get plenty of warning before sets are retired."

While true, so far that doesn't seem to have much effect. Apparently enough people willing to pay whatever Lego asks. And some even defending price increases....
(not that I would be buying this one anyway...)

And being patient doesn't do much either, because that's more likely the retailer giving discounts and thus taking the brunt of the pain, not Lego. Not that we need to feel sorry for the likes of Amazon for that, but it's a bit sad when that's the lesser of two evils...."

If there are enough people willing to pay whatever TLG asks, then complaining is even less effective.

And I definitely don't feel bad for retailers giving discounts, there's almost 0 chance they would give enough of a discount to take a loss

Afraid I am not contributing anything new here, and I am not one for always complaining about the Lego SW prices, but the pricing for what you apparently get in this set is borderline laughable. Compare to Rivendell, for instance, and nothing more needs to be said. In my ten plus years collecting Lego SW I have not been as disappointed with a new UCS set as this time.

Price per piece is an inaccurate measure, of course, but adding this to the severely lacklustre minifigure selection (why are they skimping out on C3-PO, and what's with Leia's cargo shorts?).

Lego Star Wars was responsible for getting me out of my dark ages but these days so many other themes are taking up more and more of my plastic brick budget. High prices, lack of innovation and a lot of frustration with regard to different issues with the minifigure selection are bringing my desire to stay up to date with TLG's Star Wars experience down peg by peg...

@fakespacesquid said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
" @brickwich said:
"Reminder that the way to show them these prices are ridiculous is to NOT BUY IT. If you complain about the prices and buy it anyway, there's no incentive for them to make changes. And if you do want it, please be patient and wait a year or two until they lower the price, we usually get plenty of warning before sets are retired."

While true, so far that doesn't seem to have much effect. Apparently enough people willing to pay whatever Lego asks. And some even defending price increases....
(not that I would be buying this one anyway...)

And being patient doesn't do much either, because that's more likely the retailer giving discounts and thus taking the brunt of the pain, not Lego. Not that we need to feel sorry for the likes of Amazon for that, but it's a bit sad when that's the lesser of two evils...."

If there are enough people willing to pay whatever TLG asks, then complaining is even less effective.

And I definitely don't feel bad for retailers giving discounts, there's almost 0 chance they would give enough of a discount to take a loss"

From what I've understood retailers sell Lego because that's what gets people into their shop, but especially with such discounts they hardly make money on it. Meanwhile TLG is raking in the billions...

And I don't think people are complaining here thinking it will change anything, we're just giving our honest opinion. Which a bit too often is "good product, insane price". As if TLG cares....

Isn't the prop that was Luke's RotJ lightsaber just a reused and modified Obi-Wan lightsaber from ANH? I had heard it was, but I was unsure if this was true.

@YoungB1ood said:
" @socal_bricks said:
" @Username28 said:
" @Legomus said:
" @Somnium said:
"At least Slave Leia is back."

It’s «Spaceship» Leia ;)
"

Erm, AKTCHUALLY, it's "Hutt-Slayer Leia.""

All of you are wrong - it's actually "Boba Fett's Starship" Leia!"

Um, technically it would be "Starship Leia""

. . . or would it be Jabba the Hutt's Starship Leia?

@TheBrickBulbasaur said:
"I think it looks good! Probably not getting myself, but the minifigures are excellent.

@Clutch_P said:
"I knew it. They reused the inaccurate Book of Boba Fett mold for Bib Fortuna :("

I'm disappointed they reused it purely because of your comment on the palace review"

Haha, I'm surprised anyone remembered that! Yeah, I was hoping I would be wrong, but oh well.

For the sake of not being purely negative though, if the minifig nitpicks and price are ignored, it is indeed a pretty great set.

@yellowcastle said:
" @Clutch_P said:
"For the sake of not being purely negative though, if the minifig nitpicks and price are ignored, it is indeed a pretty great set."

"All that being said, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?""

By no means am I trying to justify the issues or anything; the price is obviously a big problem. I'm just saying that the build itself is very good and faithful to the source material.

@yellowcastle said:
"Brown shall be the color thou shalt build, and the color of the building shall be brown. Gray shalt thou not build, neither build thou black, excepting that thou then proceed to Brown.

Not including the main characters (let alone critical side builds) from this scene in a $500 USD set in order to encourage you to purchase a separate $80 USD set is just wrong. At the very minimum, they could have added another Gamorrean Guard, Weequay, Jawa, etc. Hopefully, Cap will discover some fun easter eggs for us.

@StyleCounselor - please accept my sympathies in advance for your lost lightsaber."

Hopefully, they won't chop off my hand!

@StyleCounselor said:
" @LegoMike said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @LegoMike said:
"We had Luke’s lightsaber a few years ago, with more pieces and if I’m honest, I think it looked much better.
So fair enough on releasing it again but I’m not seeing an improvement unfortunately."

40483 was the lightsaber he had in ANH and TESB, this is the lightsaber from RotJ."

Thanks, so that explains the difference.
Still don’t think this latest one looks particularly good though. As someone else mentioned, very blocky"

This interchange with your names made me laugh. Well done. "

We are Borg

I dont see $500 here. The scale doesn't justify the price. It's fine as it gives me another break from buying the UCS sets

Lmao that price. Couldn't even bother to make an accurate Bib Fortuna in a product labeled 'collector's'.

How is the quality of modern reddish brown bricks these days?
Still tho, cool if you can get it, I'll just enjoy pictures in the reviews.

I am somewhat surprised that nobody mentioned that Disney Star Wars decided to dressed up Leia to something that has nothing to do with the scene.

According to the Wiki, Leia is wearing a bikini top, a g-string bottom with 2 veils, one in the front and one in the back.

On this latest instalment, Leia is wearing some sort of Capri pants. Or some type of pants that go knee length. So basically $500 for 75397 , $80 for 75396 and roughly $30 to get the bottom parts for Leia with 2 veils instead of short pants.

I really like this set and is quite perfect for a nice display but I have so much more to buy before this one - I doubt it will ever make it to my place unfortunately.

@HOBBES:
In the movie, it's a string bikini, but not a g-string. It has a full seat, not dental floss.

@PurpleDave said:
" @HOBBES :
In the movie, it's a string bikini, but not a g-string. It has a full seat, not dental floss."

Well, we cannot really tell because there are those 'veils'. Of all the pictures available online, I could not find one where the back veil was not there so it is hard to see what's underneath. As such, I'll assume that those who designed the costume know what they did.

The main point though is: in a $500 set, Lego is providing a non-accurate part which people will have to source elsewhere..

@xboxtravis7992:
No, they've only printed the fronts (except directly above and on top of the toes) and outer sides (pretty much anywhere on that surface). Dual-molded legs are the only form of "print" they've yet achieved on the inner sides and backs of the legs, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. On the inner sides, it's just too much hassle for too little reward. On the backs, the target printing area is too small and complex to efficiently mass print.

Likewise, the inner surfaces of arms and the sides of torsos never get printed because the print would quickly rub off as the arms are articulated. Tops of torsos aren't printed for the same reason the area above and on top of the toes isn't, which is that you'd need to be printing into a concave space, and whatever machines they use in Europe don't seem to be capable of doing that or they wouldn't always stop at the knee. I think the printers in China might be a little more advanced, as I think there are a few CMFs that had leg printing right down to the toes, while this is unheard of in regular sets.

Lego is a privately held company that doesn't need to answer to shareholders, yet continues to price things out of control while making billions of dollars per year. It's kind of gross to see this much greed coming from them. This is $400 set at the most, $350 actually is what I would consider this worth. If this is the start of DLC-ing sets I will be cutting WAY back on my Lego purchases.

@Clutch_P said:
"I knew it. They reused the inaccurate Book of Boba Fett mold for Bib Fortuna :("

I wish I had your problems

The fact that some companies and individuals in the West are afraid to use certain words even in science fiction and fantasy stories is very funny and a kinda bit worrying, but I am 100% sure that there is no Disney regulation on Lego "Slave Leila's" clothing. Perhaps it's based on a video game design from a few years ago. It was Lego's decision and absolutely irrelevant that she has legs like that, but reusing Bib Fortuna's fat head was a very lazy decision for such an expensive set. The ship itself looks good, as do the other figures, I'll wait for a big sale.

@theguru1974 said:
"Lego is a privately held company that doesn't need to answer to shareholders, yet continues to price things out of control while making billions of dollars per year. It's kind of gross to see this much greed coming from them. This is $400 set at the most, $350 actually is what I would consider this worth. If this is the start of DLC-ing sets I will be cutting WAY back on my Lego purchases."

75005 and 9516 would both like to have a word...

@DenDeze said:
"500€???????? wtf"

cocaine ain't cheap

Its frustrating being a completionist for sure. You could have the wait of getting a discount of 20-25% at some point in 6 + months but then have to pay over the odds for the lightsaber. Might as well buy it as it comes out. They have me in a box sadly
.

@xboxtravis7992 said:
"Arguably the best method to do the figure for accuracy would be to dual mold the legs, then print flesh tones up the side of the legs over the dual molded part. I don't really trust LEGO to get nice flesh tones over dark plastic though"
That could seem like the best solution (or a custom cloth piece, but then she wouldn't be able to sit down), but I doubt a sudden awareness of their inferior printing quality is the reason they didn't do that.

However - seeing as the veils go almost all the way to the ground and that she actually isn't barefoot but wears some kind of boots, one could argue that it'd be even more accurate with a completely dark red leg piece with boots printed on the feet and skin colour printed on the rest of the sides.

@AustinPowers said:
" @RogueWhistler said:
"Leia getting inaccurate dual-molded legs when so many characters who merit it don't get it is pretty funny too, though I understand the rationale."
As for Disney's "rationale" concerning Leia's costume, I love this anecdote about Carrie Fisher's response (courtesy of Wikipedia):

In response to a 2015 news segment in which parents described difficulties explaining toys featuring the costume (including a chain around Leia's neck) to their children. Fisher called Disney's decision "stupid," saying, "Tell [the kids] that a giant slug captured me and forced me to wear that stupid outfit, and then I killed him because I didn't like it."

:-) "

That’s a cute answer, but there's still decades upon decades of nerd spooge spilled over the costume which has become about as iconic a sex symbol as something can be in a series like Star Wars.

Undoubtedly, that was part of the intent, but it does lead to awkward conversations with kids, only further complicated by Jabba’s intent to degrade and objectify a character that had heretofore been a rare and subversive symbol of female empowerment in a genre that was otherwise lacking.

Rebranding the costume to something slightly more empowering is a marketing gimmick, but it does place emphasis on the character’s agency rather than than Jabba’s. It’s small, but it’s not nothing imo.

@AustinPowers said:
" @deansl1882 said:
"Its frustrating being a completionist for sure. You could have the wait of getting a discount of 20-25% at some point in 6 + months but then have to pay over the odds for the lightsaber. Might as well buy it as it comes out. They have me in a box sadly
."
Wait. Are you trying to tell me you have EVERY Star Wars set released since 1999? Including all exclusives, one-offs, magazine gifts, store exclusives (like the famous NY Yoda), employee gifts, etc.?

If so, wow, I'm seriously impressed.
If not, why call yourself a completionist? And why the perceived need to get this or the associated GWP?
Why not simply acknowledge the fact that neither is particularly desirable and accept the truth - that your life won't be worse without them! "

Ha ha ha ha ha. Not sure if you are angry or just intrigued?
I should have cavaeted it as a "wannabe" completionist as, like you, I would be very impressed by anyone who has them all. I still want all sets MIB so some are proving hard to come by. I am also well aware that some of the very early Comic con sets when they were 1:250 will be extremely hard to come by. Trouble is if I eventually want to be one I have to get all of the new ones too. I do usually wait for sales but when they come with GWP its better just to get them as the GWP can become extortionate.

I am fully aware that my life wont be any worse if I don't buy a box full of coloured plastic with a Star Wars logo on the side but what's life worth without setting yourself some goals in life? Particularly ones i enjoy...... I am sure my daughters will enjoy selling it off for a tidy sum once I leave the mortal coil.

@PurpleDave said:"a McFarlane cable..."

I see what you did there.

@Jack_Rizzo said:
"Why is nobody talking about the real omission - no Mara Jade trying and failing to get on-board? XD"

If it had that, I would absolutely buy Day One.

@AustinPowers said:"After all, why do the female Starfleet personnel on the TOS Enterprise wear such skimpy outfits? Comfort?"

The pilot actually had them wearing the same uniforms as the men, but the women wanted to show off their legs. I never caught it myself, but I've heard that Nichelle Nichols can be caught trying to hike up her hemline a tad in a few episodes.

@AustinPowers said:
" @deansl1882: no, not angry, but indeed intrigued.

After all, getting each and every Star Wars set ever would set one back somewhere in the six figure range.
Honestly, if I had that much money just lying around I would use it to spend some real quality time with my family for years while I am still on this planet, not spend it on accumulating heaps of plastic they can hope to sell on when I'm gone.
But maybe that's just me. "

Luckily I am in a position where I can do both….
Sadly hotels, flights and holidays do cost money and therefore sadly I am not yet the completionist I wish to be. Damn my children wanting all that quality time with me……

@Ridgeheart said:
" @deansl1882 said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @deansl1882 : no, not angry, but indeed intrigued.

After all, getting each and every Star Wars set ever would set one back somewhere in the six figure range.
Honestly, if I had that much money just lying around I would use it to spend some real quality time with my family for years while I am still on this planet, not spend it on accumulating heaps of plastic they can hope to sell on when I'm gone.
But maybe that's just me. "

Luckily I am in a position where I can do both….
Sadly hotels, flights and holidays do cost money and therefore sadly I am not yet the completionist I wish to be. Damn my children wanting all that quality time with me……

"

Ah, the children. Truly, they are our future. So precious they are, with their healthy and valuable lungs, hearts and livers. Why, a man could buy quite a few UCS Star Wars sets by selling a healthy kidney, let alone two."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Thanks for lightening the mood…..

@Jack_Rizzo said:
"Why is nobody talking about the real omission - no Mara Jade trying and failing to get on-board? XD"

Probably because she failed to get on-board.
Thus is not on-board in the set.

A Mara figure would be great though.
Perhaps in a Jade Shadow or Jade Sabre

@bnic99 said:
" @Jack_Rizzo said:
"Why is nobody talking about the real omission - no Mara Jade trying and failing to get on-board? XD"

Probably because she failed to get on-board.
Thus is not on-board in the set.

A Mara figure would be great though.
Perhaps in a Jade Shadow or Jade Sabre"

I would snap up all of the above so quickly. I know it's unlikely all things considered, but I'd love more Star Wars Expanded Universe sets, especially ones from the original New Republic era.

Huuuuuuuuuuuge star wars fan love it!!!!!!!

@xurotaryrocket said:
"SW LEGO has been around for 25 years. It has always been accepted that SW sets are *slightly* more expensive."

Even when it provably was anything but.

@Prof_Physika:
There are worse costumes in the Star Wars films. One character in particular would be green with envy over how much coverage this outfit provides.

Although the price is quite high it doesn't seem as out of line as many are saying. Comparisons with other IPs (mainly Lord of the Rings and Marvel in this thread) aren't really fair. A better comparison is last year's Venator. That was 10p per piece with 2 minifigs. This is 11p per piece with 11 minifigs, one of them being the huge Jabba. So not actually so bad. I would have thought the quality of the minifigs is a bigger issue. I'm not really a minifig collector so I'm interested in the main build, which appears to be excellent. I don't have either of the previous versions either so I've wanted a Sail Barge for years. With the superb GWP as well it's an obvious must have for me.

this looks more master builder than UCS...

I have zero interest in this set at that price, and don’t give money to Disney on principle anymore anyways. But I love that Luke’s Lightsaber. Hopefully be able to remake the whole thing with pick a brick or something

Over $400?! No way. You lost my “sail”, TLG.

@MegaBlocks said:
"I'm disappointed with the set, disappointed at the build, the figures and the price. But with the GWP it means that it is unfortunately Day 1 purchase for me."

I hope you are joking!?
You basically dislike everything about this set ….. yet are still prepared to spend a small fortune on it, because of a blah GWP!
How about saving your money, don’t buy the Sail Barge, and purchase the lightsaber individually from a reseller? Just a thought ….

@xboxtravis7992 said:
" @bnic99 said:
" @Jack_Rizzo said:
"Why is nobody talking about the real omission - no Mara Jade trying and failing to get on-board? XD"

Probably because she failed to get on-board.
Thus is not on-board in the set.

A Mara figure would be great though.
Perhaps in a Jade Shadow or Jade Sabre"

Darth Malak is a Legends character too, and he was in a set this year so it's not impossible.

I wouldn't take much hope in old EU figures becoming a thing regularly, but I think Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade are just famous enough they could both be LEGO figures. "

yeah the frustrating thing about that… is that it's super easy to make our own custom Mara or Kyle. So if Lego made minifigs of them, it would be a big symbolic win but it wouldn't mean much to me in a material sense. For many many other Legends characters, that's not as easy, and for most alien Legends characters, impossible.

@Ephseb said:
"yeah the frustrating thing about that… is that it's super easy to make our own custom Mara or Kyle. So if Lego made minifigs of them, it would be a big symbolic win but it wouldn't mean much to me in a material sense. For many many other Legends characters, that's not as easy, and for most alien Legends characters, impossible."

I really want a Lieutenant Kettch minifig now. Yeah, that's right. Solid black pilot minifig, with a wearable bib shaped like an Ewok in pilot gear.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Ephseb said:
"yeah the frustrating thing about that… is that it's super easy to make our own custom Mara or Kyle. So if Lego made minifigs of them, it would be a big symbolic win but it wouldn't mean much to me in a material sense. For many many other Legends characters, that's not as easy, and for most alien Legends characters, impossible."

I really want a Lieutenant Kettch minifig now. Yeah, that's right. Solid black pilot minifig, with a wearable bib shaped like an Ewok in pilot gear."

My custom Zayne Carrick minifigure needs a Jarael and a Gryph :(

@djcbs said:
"500€ for less than 4000 pieces and a Taliban-approved Leia with a made-up costume that's not accurate to the film?

Pass."

agree on the price but wtf is Taliban-approved about a near-naked Leia? just bc the skirt goes all the way around?

@Ephseb said:
" @DenDeze said:
"500€???????? wtf"

cocaine ain't cheap

"

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug."

"I'm Rick James, b---ch!"

RIP, Superfreak.

Way overpriced set.
My advice if you would like to have this set: don't give this absurd amount of money to Lego / Disney. Instead, wait patiently for the big enough discount on Amazon or similar store (usually at least 30% off, but sometimes up to 50% or more).
For example, on German Amazon the 75192 Millennium Falcon is currently offered for 378 instead of 887 EUR (57% off) and 75313 AT-AT for 400 instead of 843 EUR (53% off).

So, after some time Sail Barge will cost 350 EUR (30% off), or maybe just 250 EUR (50%) if you wait long enough.

@Ridgeheart said:
" @djcbs said:
"500€ for less than 4000 pieces and a Taliban-approved Leia with a made-up costume that's not accurate to the film?

Pass."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less"

If you're going to try to be a smartarse, maybe educate yourself a bit further

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/less-than

@djcbs said:
" @Ridgeheart said:
" @djcbs said:
"500€ for less than 4000 pieces and a Taliban-approved Leia with a made-up costume that's not accurate to the film?

Pass."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less "

If you're going to try to be a smartarse, maybe educate yourself a bit further

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/less-than "

Ok... ok.... you're both pretty!!

Now, can we refocus our energies toward real problems like the proliferation of people who use 'of' instead of 'off'? Worse, those who have no idea there's a difference between 'than' and 'then.'

To top it off, is all the people saying f--ing 'like' as an endless, repetitive, monotonous preposition just because they've been hiding in mommy's basement since the pandemic!!!

Please, just go back to using 'er' or 'um' and pick yourself up one of those new Durrr Burgers!

@StyleCounselor said:
"Now, can we refocus our energies toward real problems like the proliferation of people who use 'of' instead of 'off'?"

I can honestly say I can’t recall ever encountering this, at least not on a habitual basis. I’ve randomly under typed it myself once or twice, but gone back and corrected it when possible. No, of’s great sin is being preceded by “would” or “should”. As in, “I would of loved if people learned that the word they should of used is ‘have’!” Wow, that was a lot harder to type than I expected, both because I had to do it intentionally, but also because both instances got switched on me…twice. Congrats, Apple Autoincorrect, you couldn’t of picked the worst time to get one right. I’ll of to get you a present for Christmas this year.

@PurpleDave said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
"Now, can we refocus our energies toward real problems like the proliferation of people who use 'of' instead of 'off'?"

I can honestly say I can’t recall ever encountering this, at least not on a habitual basis. I’ve randomly under typed it myself once or twice, but gone back and corrected it when possible. No, of’s great sin is being preceded by “would” or “should”. As in, “I would of loved if people learned that the word they should of used is ‘have’!” Wow, that was a lot harder to type than I expected, both because I had to do it intentionally, but also because both instances got switched on me…twice. Congrats, Apple Autoincorrect, you couldn’t of picked the worst time to get one right. I’ll of to get you a present for Christmas this year."

You're right, of course. I simply chose a mistake that was on my mind as it was proliferating in the comments for the Lego digital instructions fiasco.

Admittedly, it's all the more prevalent in that thread because people were so passionate that they were writing quickly and angrily.

Editing is an art that is becoming lost in the sands of time. There's hardly a major publication that has a day go by without significant errors. More and more often, they're even in the headlines. (sigh).

@StyleCounselor:
I’ve never even opened the Paper Instructions article. I had a feeling things would quickly get out of hand.

@Ridgeheart said:
"One of ('one have'?) the biggest gripes among Dutch language-pedants at the moment, is the proliferation of 'me' as a possessive pronoun. "My bike" ought to be translated to "mijn fiets", not "me fiets".

3220 ought to be "mijn vader", not "me vader".

I'll be honest with you - I don't mind it so much. "Me fiets", "me vader", "me lego", I don't really care. I think it makes everyone sound like a pirate, and I don't think fewer have them. Sorry - I mean, I don't think LESS OF them."

Language is always evolving. The kids judge others who can't manage their lingo. Elites judge those who never learned proper grammar. Professors and professionals judge each other based on knowledge of the latest ideas and their shorthand terms. Hell, even AFOLs judge based on knowledge of sets, parts, and acronyms.

I learned the lingo of the great ideas as a philosophy and literature major. As an attorney and writer, I honed that sword to a razor's edge.

In reality, it doesn't mean that much. When I'm not pretending to be the silly cynic StyleCounselor, I try to reach people where they are regardless of lingo.

Most people have some interesting stories and ideas if you can reach them.

'Avast! Me Lego may be walkin' the plank!' sounds kind of fun. Like, I might want to use that in me sentences.

I think it looks fantastic. Yes it’s expensive but I think getting the Lightsaber balances it out. You can either sell it to bring the price down or wait for a sale on the barge or double points later on.

I’m assuming the only way Disney would green light Slave Leia is to make a massive set like this and put her in shorts. I don’t think a play scale version of this was ever on the table and likely never will be again.

I understand the comparisons to other sets at a similar price but personally I have absolutely no interest in LOTR or Marvel.

I’ll be getting this day 1 for Christmas. It’s lovely.

@StyleCounselor said:
"Hell, even AFOLs judge based on knowledge of sets, parts, and acronyms."

Your knowledge of SPAs is woefully inadequate, and I just wanted you to know that.

My jaw literally dropped when I saw this! Never thought it would happen. Although, I long for the days when UCS didn't include minifigs. Total waste for me. Would've preferred more ship and zero minifigs.

@PurpleDave said:
" @StyleCounselor:
I’ve never even opened the Paper Instructions article. I had a feeling things would quickly get out of hand."

I made one comment, and read a few of the comments after that, but decided fairly quickly that I had better things to do with my time here.

@Ridgeheart said:
" @deansl1882 said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @deansl1882 : no, not angry, but indeed intrigued.

After all, getting each and every Star Wars set ever would set one back somewhere in the six figure range.
Honestly, if I had that much money just lying around I would use it to spend some real quality time with my family for years while I am still on this planet, not spend it on accumulating heaps of plastic they can hope to sell on when I'm gone.
But maybe that's just me. "

Luckily I am in a position where I can do both….
Sadly hotels, flights and holidays do cost money and therefore sadly I am not yet the completionist I wish to be. Damn my children wanting all that quality time with me……

"

Ah, the children. Truly, they are our future. So precious they are, with their healthy and valuable lungs, hearts and livers. Why, a man could buy quite a few UCS Star Wars sets by selling a healthy kidney, let alone two."

To quote Don Cheadle, "You just had to make it weird."

I've gotten to a point where I just actively hate the UCS sets. There's no point to them anymore with all the new pieces Lego has introduced that allow great detail at playset and midi scale. It's just more plastic in the world.

@PurpleDave said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
"Hell, even AFOLs judge based on knowledge of sets, parts, and acronyms."

Your knowledge of SPAs is woefully inadequate, and I just wanted you to know that."

No doubt!!

@Wasthereonce said:
"This is a strange set to be UCS and price at $500. And it doesn't even include the Desert Skiff or the figures like Boba Fett, Luke, Lando, or Han, which is a significant part of the scene with the Sail Barge. I guess they want you to tack on another $80 to buy 75396 with it.

It's not very iconic on its own. Seems like a niche pickup for a collector to want. I wish they would have just made a normal updated one to 75020 priced around $100. "

How is it not iconic enough? also what qualifies as iconic?

@Captainrex2000 said:
" @Wasthereonce said:
"This is a strange set to be UCS and price at $500. And it doesn't even include the Desert Skiff or the figures like Boba Fett, Luke, Lando, or Han, which is a significant part of the scene with the Sail Barge. I guess they want you to tack on another $80 to buy 75396 with it.

It's not very iconic on its own. Seems like a niche pickup for a collector to want. I wish they would have just made a normal updated one to 75020 priced around $100. "

How is it not iconic enough? also what qualifies as iconic?"

It doesn't include the other parts of the scene: the Desert Skiff and the Sarlacc Pit. And it's priced at $500 for just the Sail Barge. This set seems geared towards Jabba the Hutt fans, which makes this a set with niche appeal in my view.

@Ridgeheart said:
" @djcbs said:
" @Ridgeheart said:
" @djcbs said:
"500€ for less than 4000 pieces and a Taliban-approved Leia with a made-up costume that's not accurate to the film?

Pass."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less "

If you're going to try to be a smartarse, maybe educate yourself a bit further

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/less-than "

https://thinkinginenglish.blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/img_0232.png

And so I have. I think Austria's somewhere in the blue on this map, isn't it? I admit, I could have paid more attention in geography, but then you should not have dozed off during remedial English."

Last I checked, I use whatever English I please, not what some smug ignorant tulip-eater thinks I should use.
You tried to be a smartarse and ended up looking like a clown. I'd suggest you pipe down.

This epitomizes much of my frustrations with current LEGO Star Wars. Far too much money for what you're getting, and full of compromises entirely inappropriate for the price you pay.

The model itself looks alright, but the relative size of it reminds me that I would find the same value in a play-scale version. This may be down to my affinity for 6210, which I received as a young girl and enjoyed immensely. It's not a bad concept for a UCS model - and in fact heavily favored to the largely boring OT fare trotted out every other minute (still not over getting the Landspeeder over far more intriguing entries - I get the popularity, but really?). I guess this is just my reflexive "~3000ish parts for $500 feels bad to me" sense. Star Wars is of course more expensive, but this just feels very... eh, compared to other premium models they're putting out.

The obvious separation of the skiff and Sarlacc pit for 75396 is really grating. I get that LEGO would have just used the opportunity to up the price, but it's insane to me to effectively take out half of the reason you'd ever get this set. Am I supposed to believe people are really buying this set to just display Jabba's barge? It's obviously a display piece you set out to recreate the scene itself. Most other UCS subjects don't have this issue - being standalone vehicles - but in all honesty a hypothetical version of this set + the skiff/Sarlacc lends itself well to the "Master Builder Set" label a bit more - focusing on the sequences and scenes. It's an oddly good blend of the two. Too bad they've instead decided to squeeze an extra $80 out of people on top of at least a $100 overcharge on this set - and that's being a bit too fair to LEGO. Maybe this is just me getting old, but it was more fun when there was one outlier $500 set and like like 6-7 per year.

The minifigure selection is perhaps one of the other main things that kills me. While a ton of figures - it's compromise after compromise. The Bib Fortuna figure is impressively bad - I know molds are expensive and reuse is encouraged, but we really couldn't develop one to reflect Bib Fortuna's most known appearance in a luxury $500 set? Couldn't upgrade to the dual-molded C-3P0? There's a benefit to the main cast being separate so we can pad out the rest of the cast here, but at the same time it's sort of lame to have an $80 tack-on pack to get what you'd really want out of this. And that one has inaccurate figures too!

It's a problem that I can point to other contemporary luxury sets and talk about the significant value they have over them. Genuinely, I think the last few years of these huge sets have brought forth a lot of LEGO's ability to shirk the little details on a premium product behind their ability to profit off of them. It's a bit hypothetical to point these out while liking some of these models myself (I'm a big fan of the recent Deku Tree and the Venator from a year or two back) - but these ones feel just a bit too much.

Granted, these are fairly nitpicky things - but it's a $500 niche Star Wars collector's toy: there are no non-nitpicky opinions about this. We are at the far end of the nitpicking spectrum here. I don't think it's ridiculous to point out the weird concessions LEGO wants you to make for $500. Easy pass from me. My copy of 6210 is doing fine anyway.

@djcbs said:
" @Ridgeheart said:
" @djcbs said:
" @Ridgeheart said:
" @djcbs said:
"500€ for less than 4000 pieces and a Taliban-approved Leia with a made-up costume that's not accurate to the film?

Pass."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less "

If you're going to try to be a smartarse, maybe educate yourself a bit further

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/less-than "

https://thinkinginenglish.blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/img_0232.png

And so I have. I think Austria's somewhere in the blue on this map, isn't it? I admit, I could have paid more attention in geography, but then you should not have dozed off during remedial English."

Last I checked, I use whatever English I please, not what some smug ignorant tulip-eater thinks I should use.
You tried to be a smartarse and ended up looking like a clown. I'd suggest you pipe down."

That's our friend, Austrian. And the answer to your question is "yes". You comment on Brickset, you get to kill the English.

@Lion_knight said:
"Way overpriced set.
My advice if you would like to have this set: don't give this absurd amount of money to Lego / Disney. Instead, wait patiently for the big enough discount on Amazon or similar store (usually at least 30% off, but sometimes up to 50% or more).
For example, on German Amazon the 75192 Millennium Falcon is currently offered for 378 instead of 887 EUR (57% off) and 75313 AT-AT for 400 instead of 843 EUR (53% off).

So, after some time Sail Barge will cost 350 EUR (30% off), or maybe just 250 EUR (50%) if you wait long enough.
"
Just a reminder that all markets don’t see those kinds of sales, especially on exclusives. :o(

@djcbs said:
"Last I checked, I use whatever English I please, not what some smug ignorant tulip-eater thinks I should use.
You tried to be a smartarse and ended up looking like a clown. I'd suggest you pipe down."

Because you're not smug at all.