75339 Death Star Trash Compactor officially revealed!
Posted by CapnRex101,
75339 Death Star Trash Compactor has today been officially revealed, along with additional images of those that emerged during the last couple of days.
You can view further images, with information about these new sets after the break...
75329 Death Star Trench Run
- 665 pieces
- £54.99, $59.99, €59.99
75330 Dagobah Jedi Training
- 1000 pieces
- £69.99, $79.99, €79.99
- Luke Skywalker, Yoda, R2-D2
75339 Death Star Trash Compactor
- 802 pieces
- £79.99, $89.99, €89.99
- Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, Chewbacca, R2-D2, C-3PO
These sets will be released on the 26th of April and are already available to pre-order:
- Pre-order Death Star Trench Run at LEGO.com »
- Pre-order Dagobah Jedi Training at LEGO.com »
- Pre-order Death Star Trash Compactor at LEGO.com »
Are you impressed with these sets and which other scenes would you like to see in the Diorama Collection? Let us know in the comments.
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Words cannot describe how pleasantly surprised I was too see arm printed C-3PO and back-printed R2 in the compactor set
Does it work? :))))
@mafon2 said:
"Does it work? :))))"
Probably not.
These prices are a slap in the face to every Lego Star Wars fan. Completely unacceptable. They look great but I will never buy these.
@mafon2 said:
"Does it work? :))))"
The additional images show that the walls do close in. I was taken aback by the price, and I'm not sure it is fully explained by the play feature. You get so much more in the Dagobah scene for less.
I sort of like the Trash Compactor, but I have no idea how Lego thinks it's reasonable to charge $90 for it. Even putting aside PPP, it just doesn't look big enough to be $90.
@mafon2 said:
"Does it work? :))))"
Images suggest it does! Walls look like they slide on the base and notches on the back wall.
Also would love to get all three, budget and promotions depending as JP diorama and Delorean also need to be bought.
They must have done some market research and testing and realized if they add a display base people will think the price is more reasonable.
A little expensive for what you get but at least you have pretty much all the main characters in just one set - Luke and Han wearing stormtrooper suit though but compensated by new prints on droids.
Dagobah and the Trench look fantastic, this...I mean like always I appreciate the details they added but I'm not feeling this one.
It feels a little too much like a bucket with moveable walls and some spare parts. That's not on the Lego Designers, that's because of the choice of scene.
And this is €90?! That's just absolutely not worth it in my opinion.
I really like the look of these and I may well get the Trench Run and Dagobah ones at some point, but I really can't understand why the Trash Compactor is more expensive than Dagobah when it's smaller and contains fewer pieces.
Price aside though, I'd really like to see more diorama sets like this from Star Wars and other themes as well. I don't have much space where I'm living right now so it's nice to have some display-oriented sets that aren't enormous like the UCS sets tend to be.
so lego has realised that kids aren't buying as much lego anymore and now they're going to pump out a bunch of overpriced collector items until no one wants to buy anything
I made an exclamation of sorts when I saw the 3po and r2 figures. I’m in calculus class currently.
just noticing the lack of silver printing on this particular C3PO's leg. High hopes for his next appearance :)
This is a cute set, and I like that Lego is doing more dioramas like this. I’m just not sure that I like a set like this really needs the black display base and all that. I don’t think of the compactor scene as being on par with the Trench Run or Luke’s Jedi Training in terms of “iconic Star Wars.”
I also think I ultimately dislike the large black base that seems like it’ll be the standard for these dioramas going forward. I know they’re supposed to basically turn these sets from “toys” into “desk toys” that adults don’t need to hide away in a darkened corner out of shame, but it’s just a taxation on the piece count, isn’t it?
I’d rather have more detail and printed pieces and minifigs than some base saying “Live long and may the Force be with you.” - Gandalf Dumbledore
I rarely complain about prices but the pricing for the trash compactor is way off, especially in comparison with Degoba. Let's hope we'll see some good discount on that one
These black bases... To hell with them and their high priced sets.
@cofaigh said:
"just noticing the lack of silver printing on this particular C3PO's leg. High hopes for his next appearance :)"
A bit of a shame, that. Set seems like a good opportunity for a “perfect 3PO” fig.
But then Spidey is often left hunting for his red boots, even in pricey sets, so what can you do.
@WemWem said:
" @cofaigh said:
"just noticing the lack of silver printing on this particular C3PO's leg. High hopes for his next appearance :)"
A bit of a shame, that. Set seems like a good opportunity for a “perfect 3PO” fig.
But then Spidey is often left hunting for his red boots, even in pricey sets, so what can you do.
"
The "perfect" one is reserved for UCS Landspeeder, it seems.
I was surprised to see R2DR and C3PO . . . I'm guessing that is one of the reasons the price is higher than I expected. 6 minifigs is a lot in a SW set these days.
I was expected to see a more prominent Dianoga in the set. But I'm guessing that his eye is visible in one of the pics and that is as much as they could reasonably include and have it still look accurate to the scene.
Also, I wonder if the door opens? I would think so, but hard to tell from the pictures.
I envy Star Wars fans. I wish Super Heroes had such a good diorama set.
@cofaigh said:
"just noticing the lack of silver printing on this particular C3PO's leg. High hopes for his next appearance :)"
Pretty sure a dual molded leg 3po image leaked out recently. It’s gonna be in a 200 dollar set tho.
Holy crap! LOL
Back printing on R2D2?! *fainted*
I like it a lot. I don't $90 like it.
@SolidState said:
"These prices are a slap in the face to every Lego Star Wars fan. Completely unacceptable. They look great but I will never buy these."
The only reasonably priced one imo is Dagobah. 1000 peices for 80 is a good deal.
I see the garbage in the Trash Compactor is less random than I thought. It is much more structured, and I respect what the designers have done. But it’s still too costly for me.
@PerryThePlatypus said:
"Words cannot describe how pleasantly surprised I was too see arm printed C-3PO and back-printed R2 in the compactor set "
This. I did not want to get any of them, but I'll get the compactor just for these two.
[Edit: I just saw the price. It's $120 Canadian. Ouch. I may rethink my decision]
Of course, for this insane price, they couldn't include the new C-3PO with silver dual-moulded leg. You have to get the $200 UCS Landspeeder for that.
90€ holy moly, the droids look incredible though
Judging by the main picture, the slots on the floor allow for the walls to be moved in and out along with the trash.
The only one I think I would consider buying is Dagobah. I really like the trench run(I wouldn't pay that much for it) and the trash compactor is fine. I really love Han's quote, but I agree that it isn't worth the price nor would I consider it one of the most iconic moments. However, I am really excited that we have arm printed 3PO! Even better is back printed R2-D2. I'm glad the designers finally got around to updating him. Hopefully, we will see him in a cheaper set. Or at least one that isn't overpriced...
@BA_speedforce said:
"I envy Star Wars fans. I wish Super Heroes had such a good diorama set."
Exactly! I could see a Marvel range of dioramas from the films.
@PerryThePlatypus said:
"Words cannot describe how pleasantly surprised I was too see arm printed C-3PO and back-printed R2 in the compactor set "
Back-printed R2 is SO long overdue! The arm printing on 3PO looks like maybe a little *too* much, IMO, but in another year or two the current non-printed standard will probably look barren. LOL
trash compactor is certainly an iconic scene - and the minis, especially R2, mean yeah i'll pre-order that one. the trench run i'll try to get later, and will pass on Dagobah (oddly i prefer the clone wars yoda to this one)
Gonna be great getting these for a discounted price on the second hand market!
Of course from these images there is nothing to show R2 has a front print...
The piece vs price comparison between this and Yoda hut seem odd?
If I didn't have to pay the inflated price for a base I don't want I'd actually really like the trash compactor. It's a $40-50 set that's somehow $90.
Easy pass at $90.
Looks nice, but not $90 nice.
I see.. over all those years we got leftover R2D2s because backprinting was possible all the time, but it was cheaper to give us the already produced ones. Now, after stocks are empty and R2 got updated, new ones had to be produced, thus the trash compacter costs 90 instead of 70, as it should. See, it all makes sense now. :)
Srsly, let's hope these figures won't be exclusive to this set, so we can get them cheaper at some point.
If you buy all three of these, you’re underpaying by ~$10 on price per piece, but don’t anyone let that get in the way of a good, frothy-mouthed rant.
Now if we could get them to release an affordable and attainable detention block scene…
@chrisaw:
Have they made an element that looks like a pencil? I’d much rather have scenes from Batman films.
@darthnorman said:
"I see.. over all those years we got leftover R2D2s because backprinting was possible all the time, but it was cheaper to give us the already produced ones. Now, after stocks are empty and R2 got updated, new ones had to be produced, thus the trash compacter costs 90 instead of 70, as it should. See, it all makes sense now. :)
Srsly, let's hope these figures won't be exclusive to this set, so we can get them cheaper at some point."
Agreed, and I'm sure the droids will be in other sets from this summer onwards. No need to rush and buy this super expensive set right away.
Additionally, they've redesigned the Stormtrooper body and leg print by the looks of it… apparently we can't ever have consistent army building over a few years. I'll be sticking with the tons of 2016 (Rogue One) stormtroopers I already have.
Hmm, my wife keeps saying how we have so much LEGO she should start throwing it in the ditch. I wonder what she will say if I ever brought home a set with trash already in it.
That new printing for the droids in the Trash Compacter is easily the best part of these sets for me (Luke in Dagobah looks great too).
So, the general view is that the updated versions of C-3PO and R2-D2 are the best thing about the set .... so it's a shame you can't see them if you display the set as it's designed.
@MeisterDad said:
"Hmm, my wife keeps saying how we have so much LEGO she should start throwing it in the ditch. I wonder what she will say if I ever brought home a set with trash already in it."
Sounds like a good starting point for a UCS Trash Compactor MOC built together with your wife ;)
Now I want a carbon freezing chamber diorama set *_*
Trash Compactor scene is $20 too high. Figs are great, and the grey/brown and tan look good but not for $90-.
The other two are reasonable especially the Trench Run.
“…which other scenes would you like to see in the Diorama Collection?”
- Cell Block Escape
- Carbon Freezing Chamber scene
- Duel of the Fates
I'm going to reverse my previous 'underwhelming' judgement in the other post now that I see official images. For some reason I hadn't considered the fact the walls would...well...compact. Much more dynamic. And the inclusion of the R2 and C3PO are bonus. I may have to get this after all, depending on markdowns.
The Trash Compactor is not an aesthetic most people would like sitting on their desk or shelf, but I really love the set and the minifigures. However, the price is keeping me away. If I'm going to spend that much, I want something more sizeable.
I love these three diorama's, but as others said, the trash compactor is definitely too expensive, but at discount and/or with VIP points these become more attractive. I'm still happy with these kinds of offerings in the SW range, no re-hashes of older sets, and they do look good on the desk, I'm a bit of a sucker for those display bases! Display space though, that's another story... :D
OMG R2-D2 HAS A PRINTED BACK!!!!!!!!!
WOOHOO!!!!!!!!
Im in doubt about these new black bases. On one hand they look amazing and transform what used to be medium size playsets in great display models. On the other hand, they really, really inflate the price.
When i first saw the compacter and didnt know the piececount i honestly thought it would be 40 euros, 50 max. The real price is doublet that and has really put me off, which is a shame.
Wait a minute... I recall LEGO designers saying in interviews that it's impossible to print non-minifig bricks on both sides due to the manufacturing plants not being built to do that.
And we've only been shown the back of that new R2-D2 figure.
What if it doesn't actually have printing on the front??
This was way more expensive than I was expecting even factoring in the SW tax. Wow. Looks great, but maybe at $50.
Not bad, much like the Hut set it is better than the pile of gray parts they revealed first, but still...
The SW theme continues going from bad to worse. The prices only get more and more ridiculous (but well, in the end, there will always be a group of people defending them mentioning the number of minifigs, size or parts...). Seems like Lego found out how to easily take money from the SW fans, right?
Before: Memorable Moment from the Saga play set (800 parts) - $59.99
Now: Memorable Moment from the Saga with Collectors' Stylish Black Base™ (800 parts) - $89.99 or higher
Nice center piece but not for me.
I agree with starflyer59 about the price. Even though I've not been a Star Wars Lego collector, i LOVE these sets. However, I think I'm going to save my $220 USD for something else in the future.
Overall the sets look really well done, but I can agree with many others about the pricing. There was always a SW tax (and now a little Disney tax on top of that) plus the current inflation tax on everything, plus make up the difference with new prints to get their money's worth out of them. So sure, it all seems to add up. But what you actually get vs what you pay don't always line up. The sets don't look equal to the price. The high number of parts obviously is small parts and included in the base (similar to a few hundred 1x1 round studs of water in the Ship in the bottle set).
As much as I'd want these, I will have to pass thanks to my budget already shrinking because of the rest of the world increasing prices. So LEGO gets to take a break. I hope all that buy these sets have fun with them. They look solid otherwise.
"I love the extra cost and effort Lego put into these sets with the figure printing, they should always do this."
"These sets are too expensive based on part counts, I hate it."
I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of one or the other, be I am taken aback by how many people are saying both, apparently without considering the implication.
@TheOriginalSimonB said:
"Of course from these images there is nothing to show R2 has a front print..."
The promotional animation Lego posted to their Instagram does indeed show a printed front to R2.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbfaYzrhvd2/
As far as I can tell, Dagobah and Trench run will be general retail release, but trash compactor looks like being exclusive, so good luck with your discounts
@SolidState said:
"These prices are a slap in the face to every Lego Star Wars fan. Completely unacceptable. They look great but I will never buy these."
The Dagobah one is a great deal imo, the Trash Compactor is the only one that’s at a legitimately terrible price. Seriously, who in their right mind thought it should cost more than the Dagobah one?
@MeisterDad said:
"Hmm, my wife keeps saying how we have so much LEGO she should start throwing it in the ditch. I wonder what she will say if I ever brought home a set with trash already in it."
This is one serious collection you have! You have 10x as much (in numbers of sets but significantly more in number of parts) as I do and I'm always looking for space to store and expose the stuff. For the size of your collection, you need a dedicated room just to store the boxes. Good for you by the way, you seem to have most of the more desirable sets!
Lots of 1x1 tiles for the swamp build make up a decent chunk of the higher piece count there it looks like. That plus more/exclusive figs in the compactor put these on par for typical SW prices. Personally I like the diorama format quite a bit so I hope they keep doing them…but I also hope we see a wider range of sizes and price-points. While the Dagobah set looks excellent as-is, I can also imagine a version half the size that would still capture the essentials of the scene nicely.
Like I said before, I quite like the Trench Run, and with a decent discount I'd probably buy it. I don't really care for the Dagobah set, and the price doesn't help either. The Trash Compactor.....I kind of like it....but I don't just don't see anything justifying that price tag. And no discount is gonna solve that, unless some shop goes full Vidiyo on it....
@PerryThePlatypus said:
"Words cannot describe how pleasantly surprised I was too see arm printed C-3PO and back-printed R2 in the compactor set "
If I recall correctly, the C3PO from the TFA polybag had arm printing.
@tfcrafter said:
" @PerryThePlatypus said:
"Words cannot describe how pleasantly surprised I was too see arm printed C-3PO and back-printed R2 in the compactor set "
If I recall correctly, the C3PO from the TFA polybag had arm printing."
I’m aware of the polybag, but I’m just happy that an arm printed C-3PO is available again as I never got my hands on that polybag
If they had been Tolkien themed instead of Lucas... I would have become a poor man!
Getting fed up of saying this, but again, love the design. They're just massively overpriced for the size of the sets.
I'm surprised you can pre-order these, its been ages since you could do that with a set.
I like the Trash Compactor and the Dagobah, I'm not sure about the Death Star Trench Run.
I'm guessing these will be coming to other stores and there's hope for discounts?
@PerryThePlatypus said:
" @tfcrafter said:
" @PerryThePlatypus said:
"Words cannot describe how pleasantly surprised I was too see arm printed C-3PO and back-printed R2 in the compactor set "
If I recall correctly, the C3PO from the TFA polybag had arm printing."
I’m aware of the polybag, but I’m just happy that an arm printed C-3PO is available again as I never got my hands on that polybag"
It has arm printing, but a red arm. 5002948
@BA_speedforce said:
"I envy Star Wars fans. I wish Super Heroes had such a good diorama set."
Was thinking the same thing. This is probably coming for Superheroes and HP. When LEGO realizes just how far its customer base will bend over with these kinds of things…it’s gonna be Overkill City.
Dagobah price isn't bad for 1000 pieces and figs. Trench run should've been $49.99 since it has no figs, and compactor is over priced even though it has 6 figs ~$70-75 would make more sense.
Nice.
But not at those prices.
There's what looks like a printed inverted 2x2 tile on the backside of the trash compactor door. Gonna have a check to see if that part has been printed on before...
Edit: Ah yeah, been printed before on several occasions. Forgot about all the lids for brick-built gift boxes, and was done on a lot of the inverted tiles for the Hobbit game set 3920. There's a few SW sets where this has been printed on before too.
@goldenguy880:
That just means Artoo was using a body double for scenes where they had to do closeup shots of his butt. I don’t remember them mentioning that in Beneath the Dome, though.
@AcademyofDrX:
He’s retired now, but we used to have a driver at work who, I swear, if he came in to work one day and couldn’t find a single thing that I wasn’t to his satisfaction, probably would have complained about that.
@Trigger_:
Whoever put an additional three minifigs in it.
@tfcrafter:
Indeed he does. But since at no point in the six SW movies does C-3PO appear with a red arm, it wasn’t that helpful, and easy to forget.
Hard to believe these aren't being released on May 4th.
Would be nice to have some kind of connection mechanism and have a Star Wars modulars series.
@eiffel006 said:
" @PerryThePlatypus said:
" @tfcrafter said:
" @PerryThePlatypus said:
"Words cannot describe how pleasantly surprised I was too see arm printed C-3PO and back-printed R2 in the compactor set "
If I recall correctly, the C3PO from the TFA polybag had arm printing."
I’m aware of the polybag, but I’m just happy that an arm printed C-3PO is available again as I never got my hands on that polybag"
It has arm printing, but a red arm. 5002948 "
You probably didn't recognize it, because of the red arm.
@darkstonegrey3
It has! -21109 was the first set I knew of that used one (there’s a four-port, flaming exhaust tile located near the butt, which…). It’s not even the first instance, though. 3920, the Hobbit boardgame, used six of them, but I’m not sure how or why.
Full list of them, excluding any stickers, can be found here:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?pg=1&q=Inverted+%2Dsticker&catLike=W&catString=778&sortBy=N&sortAsc=A&catType=P&v=1
@PurpleDave:
Yeah I completely forgot about that tile in the Exo Suit.
I saw the trash compactor and figured that it's about $50 but they'll charge $60 because of the typical Star Wars premium pricing. I was debating if I should get that for that price (before seeing C-3PO and R2). ...and then I noticed the $90 price. YIKES! Nope. Nope nope nope.
It's a nice pile of garbage (literally), but NOT for $90!
I think they're all great sets with bad prices
I can’t believe the comments regarding these sets being reasonably priced. Who buys LEGO because it’s reasonably priced??? I buy and build sets that I like, regardless of price. Just call me a junkie.
@The_Toniboeh I agree. Nice vignettes, but at double the price I am willing to pay.
$89 for the trash compactor? And no Dianoga?
75339 looks nice but feels over-detailed, and IMO the UCS Death Star set pulled off the trash compactor diorama better.
That said, I'm happy for anyone excited for it.
It seems like they are moving towards more preorders. I would guess that it helps with production and logistics. A preorder is really just accepting a different shipping timeline from the customer perspective, with the benefit of having order quantities earlier to plan for future estimates. But that’s my guess, and I could be way off on the reasoning. :)
The back printed R2 is very nice but I think the full-printed 3PO is overkill and looks a bit *too* detailed - also that appears to be a new Stormtrooper torso print on Han and Luke so all army building since the new mould helmets came out will be going down the drain soon :(
The prices on these sets are absolutely hilarious. Dagobah is decent for $80 but still seems a bit expensive, while the other two are just insane. Trench Run should be $50 max and the Trash Compactor looks like a $60 set. I've been waiting for LEGO to make diorama-style retail sets for years and these have been executed very well, but the prices just kill them for me.
@GlassBoxTesting said:
"The back printed R2 is very nice but I think the full-printed 3PO is overkill and looks a bit *too* detailed - also that appears to be a new Stormtrooper torso print on Han and Luke so all army building since the new mould helmets came out will be going down the drain soon :("
If you think that's too detailed wait until you see the C3PO version rumored to be included in the UCS Landspeeder set.
re: the new trooper fig...it looks like they ditched the black hip piece as well.
I'm going for a different take here: Lego is marketing these at high-end collectors, not far off from people who buy UCS models or Art and Ideas sets. They resemble playsets (particularly because of the minifigures), but they're not.
The all-black box should be a clue: these are for "serious" collectors and not the kids. (I hate this, but I've got a strong hunch that this is what's going on here. Hence the price jacking.)
Finally back printing for R2-D2 after 20 years! Fully printed C-3PO is also cool, but these 2 minifigures don't justify the price.
The sets are visually cool, but as mentioned a little higher price then one would like. The Trash Compactor offers 5 figures and some with new prints which is enticing. The set does seem to need more... the designers totally left out the couch/sofa. :)
These all look really nice. The pricing doesn't seem too crazy to me. It's high, but not the end of the world as some are making it out to be. All of the price per part ratios are solid and the compactor comes with 6 minifgs with a ton of printing. Do the bases eat up parts and drive up cost? Sure, but they add to the display quality and its not like black pieces are free for LEGO.
Easy pass on all of these, good luck next wave!
@CinnamonRobin said:
"I really like the look of these and I may well get the Trench Run and Dagobah ones at some point, but I really can't understand why the Trash Compactor is more expensive than Dagobah when it's smaller and contains fewer pieces."
Twice as many figures (even if Artoo isn’t what TLG official seems a “minifigure”).
Even putting aside the entire rest of the set (and the fact Luke and Han are in their trooper disguises), how many times in the entire 20-years-plus history of LEGO Star Wars has LEGO included all six of these core heroes of A New Hope (Artoo, Threepio, Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie) in a single set? I may be forgetting something, but I think this may actually be the *cheapest* set they’ve ever done that includes all six of them (!).
@ResIpsaLoquitur:
There’s no “price-jacking”. There’s only people saying they shouldn’t have to pay for the black bases because they don’t want the black bases or the parts used to build them. 2467pcs for $229.97 means you’re getting 167pcs “free”, or you’re paying $0.093/pc. All that’s happening here is the people who normally freak out at price per piece going about $0.10/pc are trying to argue that pieces with low resale value shouldn’t factor into set pricing, especially if all they’d want to do with them is unload them on Bricklink.
@CoyoteConcepts:
Are you leaving out Artoo because he doesn’t meet the legal definition of a minifigure? Even if Billund considers him to be a non-minifig character, by most AFOL standards there’s six.
@eth6113:
Thank you! The only cost difference between black and something rare like Maersk-blue is the pigment, for which you’re unlikely to see a cost fluctuation of more than a couple pennies in a set this size.
I’ve been collecting sets from the Star Wars them for a long time and previously ignored grumbling about prices but the sets today have made me realise that the pricing is becoming silly and prohibitive to collecting everything released which I have been doing for some time. I think it’s time to consider cherry picking
Most of the trash seems connected in some way......i would suggest that as the walls close in, the trash is designed to pile up and if the figs are fixed in appointed positions then it might be a perilous genius function. .......if it works consistently.....
The prices on all of these - especially the trash compactor - are ridiculous. As much as I love the subject material in each one, there's no way I'm shelling out that much cash for what are essentially very small sets.
Looks good, but I'm very disappointed that the updated legs with dual molding and side printing for C-3PO are going to be exclhsive to the UCS landspeeder and not included in this set.
Damn! They just get better and better. Love the C-3P0 and R2-D2 especially, with their n w printing.
As if €89.99 wasn't outrageous enough for the Trash Compactor, the Swedish price SEK1149 is equivalent to €111.
@PurpleDave said:
" @ResIpsaLoquitur:
There’s no “price-jacking”. There’s only people saying they shouldn’t have to pay for the black bases because they don’t want the black bases or the parts used to build them. 2467pcs for $229.97 means you’re getting 167pcs “free”, or you’re paying $0.093/pc. All that’s happening here is the people who normally freak out at price per piece going about $0.10/pc are trying to argue that pieces with low resale value shouldn’t factor into set pricing, especially if all they’d want to do with them is unload them on Bricklink."
Honestly, everyone here is eyeballing these sets and not coming up with $50, $80, and $90, even after inflation. Price-per-piece is a heuristic, but not a clean rule. (A large baseplate is a single piece, after all.)
Seriously, it's OK to let people look at the sets and go: whoa. Not worth my dollars.
@Blondie_Wan:
Interesting question! 7190 is the first, and currently lowest MSRP at $99.99. The other four are massive playsets (often with 2-3 versions of Luke, Han, and/or Leia), including 10188, 10236, 75159, and 75222. Even 10179 skips the droids.
It might be too hot a take but in my opinion the helmet series and now these diorama sets are threatening to ruin Lego Star Wars completely. Combined with the UCS and Master Builders series there is precious little room for a good and broad enough line of playsets covering the many movies and TV-series of Star Wars. I for one do not like the way the theme is apparently taking.
@PurpleDave said:
" @Blondie_Wan:
Interesting question! 7190 is the first, and currently lowest MSRP at $99.99. The other four are massive playsets (often with 2-3 versions of Luke, Han, and/or Leia), including 10188, 10236, 75159, and 75222. Even 10179 skips the droids."
That’s what I was thinking. And note 7190 may have been just ten bucks more at MSRP, that was in 2000. This set may represent a smaller environment than the large ship that 7190 did, but it’s also doing it with 20+ years’ worth of inflation (plus 20+ years’ worth of new parts, advances in building techniques, etc.).
Honestly… I’m not sure these sets are really out of line at all. Of course lots of people here view them as overpriced, and if any individual one of us considers a set too pricey, that’s the only person whose opinion matters when it comes to determining whether that person should buy the set, but even as a person with probably less disposable income than many others here, I have to say these seem kind of reasonable to me.
It looks like all the decorated parts in these are printed bricks, not stickers (which if true further warrants the prices); is this the case? It’d be good to know.
I'm very, very far from a Lego apologist (has anyone else had absolutely atrocious Lego customer service lately? I've had several horrible examples).
That said, I'm with Bluish-Red David on this. I would love a sale/double points/great GWP. Yet, I will still buy these with joy and without teeth-gnashing (has anyone else noticed the custom service nosedive? They do NOT care anymore!). I think the pieces, figs, design, and innovation justify the price.
I mean... it's a BACK-PRINTED R2! They accomplished the impossible.
OK, so these sets are more "display pieces" than playsets, what with the fancy base and labels and what not. So why hide 3P0 and R2 at the back where you can't see them? I love all the figs in this set but hot dang, $120 CDN is way too much IMO....and as much as the droids look amazing, I already have a dozen of each of them, so they don't add as much appeal for this set for me.
Besides, that's half a DeLorean right there!! Priorities, amiright?!
Those complaining about the price, the trash compactor has six minifigs. The rest are priced about as usual given the ever important "piece count."
Very nice sets for unhealthy prices.
The only reason is $90 is because of the figures, they know SW fans will "need" these. You don't even see them on the front of the box! It's a trap and designed to make you pay.
I'm sure it'll be a great investing set if/once you get it on sale, selling in a few years just for the figures.
@elangab said:
"The only reason is $90 is because of the figures, they know SW fans will "need" these. You don't even see them on the front of the box! It's a trap and designed to make you pay.
I'm sure it'll be a great investing set if/once you get it on sale, selling in a few years just for the figures."
It's A TRAP! Don't agree, but salute your phasing, sir!
@R1_Drift said:
" @mafon2 said:
"Does it work? :))))"
Probably not."
I'd be really upset if I were left with a just a solid block of ABS, after paying this kind of money.
@ResIpsaLoquitur:
I have zero problems with people looking at a set and saying, “Too rich for my blood.” I did it with the Ninjago modulars because I simply had different priorities. But I recognize they were a fantastic deal. Similarly, 75827 Ghostbusters Firehouse Headquarters ($349.99 for 4634pcs, $0.076/pc) and 21330 Home Alone ($249.99 for 3955pcs, $0.0063/pc) are also fantastic deals, but both got roasted in the comments here for being “overpriced”. Not that they should have been smaller sets, but that the price should have been even lower for what you got.
People aren’t saying these are, “Too rich for my blood”, but that the black parts in the base shouldn’t count. They cost money to produce, they’re included in the box, they establish a consistent aesthetic style across this subtheme, and you don’t have to send them back if you don’t use them. They count towards determining pricing, and the prices aren’t fantastic, but they are fair. Anyone claiming “Star Wars tax” on these might as well be saying, “I’m pissed that I’m bad at math.” That’s basically what it meant 20 years ago when the term first popped up, and basic SW sets averaged $0.09/pc to World City’s $0.11/pc.
@Wrecknbuild said:
" @R1_Drift said:
" @mafon2 said:
"Does it work? :))))"
Probably not."
I'd be really upset if I were left with a just a solid block of ABS, after paying this kind of money."
They just use bracket pieces, zoom in on the sides.
@Blondie_Wan:
What inflation? The reason people are so hung up on $0.10/pc is it’s been an easy rule of thumb for as long as the minifig has existed. I first heard it in the mid-90’s, and another member of my LUG likes to point to 497 to prove it. $32 for 338pcs, or $0.095/pc. That’s actually more expensive by half a penny per piece than the 2002 SW lineup.
Where the raw numbers fail to support this, people point to the use of smaller parts, as if material costs are the main expense of set production, and as if those smaller parts don’t tend to have a much higher resale value than the chunky parts they’re used to. You know what I do with 2x4 bricks? I build packing material for the MOCs I build with tiny little parts.
Anyways, I recognize what they’re doing with these. In 2010 I took my collection of MOC 6-wide cars to Brickworld Chicago, and barely got any attention with them. The next year I invested ~10,000pcs in a display base for a larger collection of cars that used about the same number of pieces, and one of them earned an award. I also built display bases for my series of Aquaman vignettes, and it really changes the presentation. Rather than a shelf full of random models, it’s now a cohesive series, even with the significant mismatch in scale between the Trench and the other two sets.
@PurpleDave said:
" @Blondie_Wan:
What inflation? The reason people are so hung up on $0.10/pc is it’s been an easy rule of thumb for as long as the minifig has existed. I first heard it in the mid-90’s, and another member of my LUG likes to point to 497 to prove it. $32 for 338pcs, or $0.095/pc. That’s actually more expensive by half a penny per piece than the 2002 SW lineup."
Well, that’s my point - if anything, given that inflation is a thing that exists and that we might reasonably expect to see reflected in these sets’ prices, if anything we could expect them to cost even more than they do.
@PurpleDave said:
" @ResIpsaLoquitur:
I have zero problems with people looking at a set and saying, “Too rich for my blood.” I did it with the Ninjago modulars because I simply had different priorities. But I recognize they were a fantastic deal. Similarly, 75827 Ghostbusters Firehouse Headquarters ($349.99 for 4634pcs, $0.076/pc) and 21330 Home Alone ($249.99 for 3955pcs, $0.0063/pc) are also fantastic deals, but both got roasted in the comments here for being “overpriced”. Not that they should have been smaller sets, but that the price should have been even lower for what you got.
People aren’t saying these are, “Too rich for my blood”, but that the black parts in the base shouldn’t count. They cost money to produce, they’re included in the box, they establish a consistent aesthetic style across this subtheme, and you don’t have to send them back if you don’t use them. They count towards determining pricing, and the prices aren’t fantastic, but they are fair. Anyone claiming “Star Wars tax” on these might as well be saying, “I’m pissed that I’m bad at math.” That’s basically what it meant 20 years ago when the term first popped up, and basic SW sets averaged $0.09/pc to World City’s $0.11/pc."
I honestly don't have an issue with the black base. It's the entire package. (You're also lumping all three sets together as one item. I'm looking at the Trash Compactor by itself? I don't want the Trench Run.) This feels like a straw argument.
Again: I'mma look at the whole Trash Compactor and I'mma not eyeballing a $90 set.
@Blondie_Wan:
I’ve been expecting it to kick in for years, and thought it had with 10221 ($399.99 for 3152pcs, or $0.127/pc). This can’t last forever, though. If they do figure out a renewable plastic that’s similar to ABS, how likely is it that the new plastic will be cheaper than ABS?
These are severely overpriced (in Australia the Trash Compactor is nearly the same price as Boba Fett's Throne Room)
@ResIpsaLoquitur:
“Too rich for your blood?” I don’t have a problem with that. I really don’t. But scan all of the comments. Three people specifically used the word “tax” in reference to the price. One of them uses it _three_times_ in one sentence, with SW tax, Disney tax, and inflation tax (whatever that’s supposed to be) to explain how an 802pc set with six minifigs could possibly cost $89.99. It’s so easy, how about we pick on City again? 60292, $99.99 ($10 more than this), 790pcs (12 less than this), and nine minifigs (three more than this) with no large animals to blow the curve. That’s basically this set with a Build-a-Minifig pack thrown in. Give up three minifigs from the trash compacted and drop the price to $79.99. Better? Give up the other three, and go down to $69.99. Those 22pcs run about $1/pc, but the set won’t sell without them.
And this has the worst price per piece of the three, right? Comments on Dagobah, with a very generous 1000pcs and three minifigs for $79.99? One comment citing “SW tax” to explain the high price on a set that runs $0.08/pc. Trench run? 665pc set that runs $59.99 with no minifigs, somehow managed to avoid use of “tax” in the comments, but they still involve a lot of complaints about how a $0.09/pc set is so crazy expensive.
So, you don’t want to buy this? Nobody’s holding a gun to your head. Nobody’s holding one to my head forcing me to convince you to buy it, either. I’m just saying I wouldn’t mind if Brickset forced people to pass a quick math proficiency quiz before letting them post a comment that mentions any IP-based “tax”, be it Star Wars, Disney, any sort of licensing fee, or whatever.
@Havok211:
No, but I can guess. The back wall appears to be mounted using a pair of bracket 41682. That would leave an awkward notch at the top, and the hinge top is one of the few pieces that can fill that notch without looking even more awkward. Note the use of 2x long-jumpers to provide an interesting frame between those hinges, because again there’s not many pieces that look interesting from below.
Definitely going to go after Yoda's Hut. Absolutely gorgeous build with tons of nice colors and details, and entirely worth the money.
For the Trench Run, again worth the price, but I'll probably skip it. All that greebling looks like would be really fun to build, but the microscale is kind of throwing me off.
The Trash Compacter though... ooof. $90 for THAT!? I don't know if it's just me, but the chamber looks way wider than I remember and the character's poses aren't quite right. I would also say it looks messy, but it is literal garbage so that's actually a plus side.
@GSR_MataNui:
Width is hard to judge by minifigs, and even moreso in this case. Remember that Han holds up a pole that’s at least 10’ long and has to wait quite a while before the gap is small enough for it to reach both sides. It looks like the walls start out no less than 12’ apart. But again, with minifigs it’s tricky. By height, you’d only need about ten studs to be in scale. By width, you’d need more like 18 studs. I don’t recall Luke doing the Deadpool glamor pose, but he certainly had room to do so before the walls started moving.
Luke is in all fo them, technicallly. R2 is in two of them, again technically.
@Lego_lord:
R2 is in all of them in fact (or at least his head is). There’s the round 1x1 tile representing him on the mini X-Wing, he’s standing in the center of the Dagobah scene, and he’s hidden around back on the trash compactor.
This looks really impressive, but now we have 3 of these! I wish that they did just one or two a year, then I may be tempted to collect them.
At the same time, the normal play sets have been awesome lately, so until those stop enticing me, I just don’t see how I can get these.
So the trash set has 200 less pieces and yet $10 more expensive than the yoda set.
Well they are all way too overpriced anyway, like many people have suggested.
And would cost a fortune to get all 3 for such small (in terms of sizes) sets.
That's expensive trash!!
@MrGurt said:
"They must have done some market research and testing and realized if they add a display base people will think the price is more reasonable."
They just looked at Rebrickable and saw similar display piece MOCs inventories cost the same as these set prices. But those MOCs most of the time have very rare pieces to achieve better accuracy and Lego should by virtue of being the manufacturer be able to give a discount when buying a set that they pack in bulk versus buying the pieces individually. It is not a discount to say you pay the price of the pieces according to Bricklink values and the minifigs and few printed parts or stickers are the added value that make this set worth it. A printed arms Darth Vader, General Veers, printed arms C-3PO (where they again missed the opportunity for the molded silver leg) back printed R2-D2 are not worth 20$ each, even if they go for that on Bricklink.
I really don't see the point in buying Star Wars sets anymore unless most of the minifigs are also something I want or I especially like the design. I might as well just get individual parts, there is no real saving with buying the set new.
So that means only >20$ sets for me or the D2C sets that aren't character statues or 1:18 scale and minifig incompatible like the Republic Gunship. Very rarely I get something outside of these parameters and sadly they make less and less 20$ sets that are worth the price.
Look great but as others have said obscenely expensive.
Lately I can’t imagine buying any Lego Star Wars set until it’s on discount of 20%+.
What the Force are those prices?
The comments on these sets is well worth the price of the sets. Hard to believe with all life has to offer, or throw at us, we are this concerned about....a plastic model / toy.
Seriously, I enjoy all of the comments, because we all have, and are entitled to, our own opinions. Diversity and objectivity are good things.
Bottom line is this; you like them? Want them? Can live with the price? Buy them. If not, don't.
Lego offers a wide range of products to suit a wide range of interests, these obviously will fit someone's "must have / want" list.
I would love more historical themes, but I am a historian, I do not expect Lego to cater specifically to me.
@vader11:
Plus three more minifigs. Three minifigs will cost you $10 at Build-a-Minifig. In CMFs, that goes up to $15.
@Havok211 said:
"I understand that at the point in this scene they are at that the Dianoga has already bolted on outta there but I still think it would have been cool to have it somehow in this set. The price is a tad more than I’d like to spend on a set this size but it’s because it’s got 6 minifigs in it so I get it. It’s still an easy purchase for me though.
Edit: also can anyone tell me why they have the hinge piece on the back above R2 and 3PO? "
The Dianoga's eye is visible next to Luke in the main picture. The hinge probably just represents some detail in the hanger where C3P0 and R2D2 are at the time of the scene or simply just adds visual interest.
This is random trash out of LEGO bricks! Any mocer can build this.. yawn.
@PurpleDave said:
" @vader11 :
Plus three more minifigs. Three minifigs will cost you $10 at Build-a-Minifig. In CMFs, that goes up to $15."
Pretty sure you cannot directly do that "math", otherwise sets like death star playset with tons of minifigs should be way more expensive the any other UCS sets with similar pieces, which is not true. DS: 4000 pieces, 27 figs, $500; ISD: 4700 pieces, 2 figs, $700). Based on your logic DS and ISD should be around same price at best (or maybe even more expensive since ISD is only 700 pieces more), DS make it up with 25 extra figs. 25 x $5 = $125. Yet ISD is $200 more expensive. And they were both on sale together in 2019-2020, so "inflation" doesn't have that much of an effect. Back to the yoda vs trash sets, at best those two sets should be around the same price. Not like 200 less pieces yet $10 more.
@ vader11:
Well, the math definitely isn’t scaleable. But if you find two sets of similar size, from the same theme, released at the same time, and the prices are wildly different, you can look at the contents for a hint at why. More minifigs, bigfigs, and large animals are all things that I’ve observed affecting final set prices. Probably even high quantities of printed parts can have an impact.
@PurpleDave said:
"@ vader11:
Well, the math definitely isn’t scaleable. But if you find two sets of similar size, from the same theme, released at the same time, and the prices are wildly different, you can look at the contents for a hint at why. More minifigs, bigfigs, and large animals are all things that I’ve observed affecting final set prices. Probably even high quantities of printed parts can have an impact."
Still a weird pricing strategies nonetheless. Maybe they thought the trash set would be more popular and hence making a $10 markup even though it has 200 less pieces. Maybe the figs but doesn't make enough justice for me. And again I can always use DS as an example. DS has way more figs, and also have many large bricks as well, not just plates. ISD doesn't have big figs either. Same thing for printed parts, don't think ISD has the advantage there. So inconsistencies in pricing which makes this weird. Still think they should be around same price if not cheaper for the trash set. I won't buy any so I am not biased on either one set. But honestly the yoda set is way more appealing to me without considering the price. Adding that it is $10 cheaper with 200 more pieces it seems non sense to me if I must choose to get one between the two.
@vader11:
So, not scaleable, and it gets harder to track across multiple years. One great example is 76078. People threw a fit over the price, but it has two bigfigs on top of two minifigs. The Jurassic World and City safari sets are loaded with animals that drive their prices out of range.
But there are always other influences that aren’t as easy to track. 10221 was an extreme outlier several years ago. It cost $399.99 for 3152pcs, and a handful of minifigs, but USD was down against DKK, so that may have impacted the price. That was also around the time they started seeding unique minifigs in almost every SW set, though, so it may have also been tied to that, partly to pay for several unique, new, often one-time-use molds, and it may have been driven by the expectation that adding a little new value would allow disproportionate price increases (possibly to offset weak performance from other themes, which is something Bionicle fans should be familiar with).
But that’s stuff that really requires inside knowledge to get beyond informed speculation. Concurrent releases are one of the few instances where we can do a fair comparison and see what can affect pricing patterns. Another is comparing average price per piece between themes to prove that licensed themes aren’t as outrageously overpriced as people automatically assume as soon as you tell them a new SW set is about to be announced.
So, I’ll plan to buy all three. They’re different than the sets that have driven the theme for the last quarter century, and I like the way they look. But I recognize the need to keep core vehicles in a regular rotation, and I don’t expect everyone to like these sets.
@ PurpleDave
The thing is that they issue all these 3 sets at the same time and are under the same theme and style. If the sets are released in different years or different themes then there maybe more unknown reasons for the weird price difference. Like you said, some sets are more expensive than other similarly sized sets, even with fewer figs. So it's just a no brainer to me that the yoda set has 200 more pieces and $10 cheaper, plus it looks way more attractive to me. The trash set looks dull and unappealing, perhaps the figs "saved" the set. I don't know. Some people may also prefer the figs in the yoda set. Still thinks it makes more sense if they are the same price or if the trash set is $10 cheaper, which is still more expensive than the yoda set per ppp.
Does anybody of you morons like LEGO at all? Just moaning about the price .... like bleating sheeps.
Disgusting.